Monday Racing

how im not drawing there I shall never know

who will be fav at post?

and now to get beat in the photo i give up

THEY knew again, price doesnt matter!

Exchange Traded And Available Betfair Starting Price
Price To back To lay Traded Backers' Stake Layers' Liability
2.01      £175     
2.03      £12     
2.04      £108     
2.06      £952     
2.08      £96     
2.10      £143     
2.11      £56     
2.13      £82     
2.15      £90     
2.16      £27     
2.18      £223     
2.19      £279     
2.21      £119     
2.22      £56     
2.24      £373     
2.26      £716     
2.29      £160     
2.33      £97     
2.37      £122     
2.41      £468     
2.44      £374     
2.48      £332     
2.52      £172     
2.55      £440     
2.59      £88     
2.66      £130     
2.77      £4     
2.81      £4     
2.85      £54     
2.89      £53     
2.92      £206     
2.95      £1     
2.96      £36     
2.99      £6     
3.00      £223     
3.07      £16     
3.08      £1,034     
3.10      £265     
3.14      £234     
3.15      £2,072     
3.22      £507     
3.23      £2,739     
3.30      £1,496     
3.38      £1,153     
3.45      £662     
3.46      £685     
3.53      £538     
3.54      £277     
3.62      £986     
3.69      £386     
3.77      £279     
3.85      £1,084     
3.93      £298     
4.01      £467     
4.09      £640     
4.17      £1,473     
4.24      £406     
4.32      £1,331     
4.40      £2,190     
4.48      £192     
4.50      £18     
4.56      £44     
4.64      £20     
4.65      £0     
4.70      £0     
4.72      £69     
4.80      £427     
4.87      £20     
4.90      £123     
5.00      £163     
5.02        £59 £151
5.10      £20     
5.20      £430     
5.30      £238     
5.40      £26     
5.50      £581     
5.60      £103     
5.70      £151     
5.80      £11     
5.90      £25     
6.20      £51     
6.40      £206     
6.80      £8     
7.00      £12

Did 4 hang on at Indiana?

yes mordin

im monly waiting for 1 more, need to be a bit Creative me thinks

Evening everyone hope we all had a good easter

Back for a nite of Penn National fun and winners I Hope

anybody got turf result, i smell another tri..

Sheesh! This reduction factor seems a bit out of kilter

Anyone know what it was in the 23.00 at Penn? I backed an odds on chance £80 at 1.47 to win £37-38. There must have been a late NR (I missed it if there was)and it paid 1.15. What freakin price was the NR for that much of a reduction - risking £80 to win £11 ain't my idea of a bet tbh?


"USA Penn (US) 25th Apr / 23:00 R1 6f Mdn Claim / 3. Winterhaven
Back   1.15 80.00 Won   11.67"

743vtri at turf   nice one  stig w d

:/ hmmmm , dont think it was ever in! JK

jack ,,,my humble is..... dont touch fav   s  its too stressful


  always go for the the value!!!xxx

jack ,,,my humble is..... dont touch fav   s  its too stressful


  always go for the the value!!!xxx

jack ,,,my humble is..... dont touch fav   s  its too stressful


  always go for the the value!!!xxx

good race the next at indy
6 or 8 undecided as yet
oaklawn msw or fair grounds msw which one u like the best toss up

the reduction factors are absolute rubbish,
the number of times i back something at 5 it goes down to 3.7.
the moment the market opens up its 4.5
bout time something was done about this con,

6 and 10  Indy

reduction factors are based on morning line which can be way out in some races

morning line prices are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

backed 6 indy
stake back if 8 wins

they could go back to the old way when there was no reduction factor at all which was even more unfair

no expert me and the slop makes it tricker still but the 6 would be my call steppin up mineshaft will want this mile trip

6 for me at Indy think there will be enough pace on for this to sit off the speed and outstay the 8 coming home

ID
trying #8      Spring Storm

0 for 26 at TUP the next race fav and odds on

TUP

2 for me at 2.4

gl blue---reverse for me

That is strange Bsmith - I backed it at the 1 minute warning, the price was clearly 1.47 (it auto worked out the winnings were £37.60 (or thereabouts)). Yet it returns 1.15. I cannot for the life of me see how this reduction is in any way valid

If BF included a NR in the show, it would have to have been long odds on to justify such a reduction, yet the horse I backed was long odds on itself. Crazy

well done jas
thought 6 was gonna win that easy turning for home

wd jas

10-6    but no exacta bet , stupid really

Indiana result please?

i love De Thrill

JAS STEERING JOB AT PENN


LUMP ON

4 at TUP for me

Race: 5 Win Place Show 
1st 10 Majestic Tiger 16.20 6.00 4.00
2nd 6 Lightshaft  3.00 3.00
3rd 1 Sharp Finnish   4.20
4th 4 Garota Carioca

idk, just going to do me 1 bet
Mount
m bet #3      Creative Cat :-s
gn + gl

Really looking forward to this race at Penn

The 7 will make allI suspect but the 6 horse is a real favourite of mine and could see this making the two

A race to watch for me

thanks for Indiana result [:D]

oh go on then
TP
s bet #3      Swiss Sonata

WD JAS

indiana r5

1st
10-Majestic Tiger
$16.20
$6.00
$4.00

2nd
6-Lightshaft
-
$3.00
$3.00

3rd
1-Sharp Finnish
-
-
$4.20

27th time lucky

all about timing  imo

Tryin 7 at Mount

8 @ mount sml win big place gl

2-3-7 Mount

what really p isse s me off about the reduction factor is that if you get 2/1 after it, your horse comes back into the market at 3/1, for example.

3 and  11  Indy

also done a 3 11 5   boxed  exactas

4 for me indy
saver on 3

Don't hold your breath bnm with the RF ever changing, it is hard enough for them getting the correct amount of runners

3-9-11  Indy


9 cost me a few quid there

6 penn nice price to make all

1 for me Penn

Penn

The 3 horse top jockey top trainer down in class nice introduction

Cant be massively confident as we have newcomers and a shipper in the 6 from Parx but do fancy this to prevail tonight

Med win med place bet

wd ai indy jas unlucky on the exacta

turf favs giving value elsewhere, 1 at 20s

6 turf should be fav for me

right somebody pick 1 out of a hat for me, i dont know what im doing

jockey couldn't the 2nd horse on the right lead at Mountaineer.  Cost him the race

priority being given to candanian chariots on atr , what a joke

ok no hats

gutterball mary at penn

4 and 1 for me  Indy

i agree jas ,,,are they trying to go bankrupt?? absolute clowns who cares or bets on that??

layed 1+2 indy
small bets on 3+4

4+5 that should be

Trying very small on the 7 to place at Indy.

bobbbin hows the retirement going, hope your well sir

Next at Penn

The 8 horse looks rock solid win and place this would be my main selection

Have had a saver on the 5 horse who I think can run better than its recent form suggests

Both will look to be off the speed just fancy the 8 to lie a little closer early on.

Think the 4 will bounce off its first race back win after having 18 months off

2 has obvious chances but am taking the 8 as a place banker and med win as my main bet

Can someone explain the situation re having a 1 and 1A horse. Ta

grrr jockey cost the 8 at penn how wide

'Retirement' is going well thanks Stig. Had my best six weeks yet, so I'll try not to jinx it by starting to post here again...   You still laying down the law on the forum??

(Oh, and wd Seagram on the place banker!)

1 for me TUP

seagram risploi deserves to be shot in my opinion, heres the gun

lol

1 wins TUP


im outta here , only so much money one needs !

GN

later master...

posted by Jack_Kray Joined: 03 Jun 10
Replies: 83 26 Apr 11 00:43   


Can someone explain the situation re having a 1 and 1A horse. Ta

Horses that belong to one owner or under one trainer running in the same race.  They are not coupled on Betfair.  If u bet with the bookies u have both running for u

Cheers stig

Was ready to load up a massive bet on the 1a at Penn but its been scratched was getting excited by the prices being offered on this

something interesting at penn

the reduction factor for 1 and 1a were different prices

have betfair changed their policy?

wtf 3 to be placed on 6 runners as well  no rules its seems  in the good old usa

surely this is wrong?

i noticed that on a race the other day too stiglup
very strange

Lord apologies for not responding thanks re the last selection at Penn

Race 7 looks a real good race to have a wager on at Penn lets hope prices are favourable

bluenose it was 2/1 entry ml and over 50% reduction factor and it cost me a fair bit

got different reduction factors for tomorrows at indiana too
dont know how(or why) they work them out

talking of indy how good is liquidity compared to other tracks on tonight
hope its the same tomorrow and wednesday

Speed speed speed here with plenty of front runners at Penn

Am a little concerned by the price of the 5 horse Who I believe is a max place banker med win bet

Top jockey on board will sit off the pace wants at least a mile and the quicker they go the better here so am hoping for the anticipated speed battle early

Otero is top jockey at Penn

owch that was awful both to pride and wallet

Sea, if you're about, strongly fancy the fav any reason not to back big?

4 and 5 will duel and if 7 goes with expect a big priced winner

chief not for me mate no bet loads of pace

Went big, ouch

2 won

Sorry chief was looking at tomorrows racing

Stig as was right loads of pace but hey I got the race before badly wrong so long as you live to fight another day and all that

Gd luck tomorrow night if your about

Cheers Sea, c'est la vie

Still up for the day, so all is good