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aspy65
12 Apr 11 15:10
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Could be up and running by the end of the year... lots of liquidity if all the usa punters r in the markets  :>)
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Report winstonsmith1984 April 12, 2011 5:30 PM BST
what news did u hear?  gotta link to a story?
Report Boogie Cat April 12, 2011 5:38 PM BST
hard to believe this year, certainly hope horse racing isnt covered.
Report ante April 12, 2011 6:00 PM BST
Just a small problem ... the federal law.
Report Boogie Cat April 12, 2011 6:04 PM BST
Laugh^^
Report aspy65 April 12, 2011 6:20 PM BST
http://newscurrentevents.com/betfair-usa/
Report aspy65 April 12, 2011 6:21 PM BST
Betfair USA could is set to be up and running by late this year. Betfair has recently set up an operations centre in San Francisco anticipating betting exchanges becoming legal throughout the states to help bolster the flagging US economy.

there u go ante  x x x
Report ante April 12, 2011 6:37 PM BST
So? They set up an operations center! Of course they do. If there is a 1% chance of a multibillion $ industry opening up, of course they have to open an operations center, just in case.

However I reserve the right not to get excited over a 1% chance. (And 1% is probably overly optimistic.)
Report rink rat April 12, 2011 6:56 PM BST
European countries are fleeing Betfair in droves.
Report Boogie Cat April 12, 2011 9:50 PM BST
i hope they dont get things started & ruin u.s horse racing like they have over here
Report Boogie Cat April 12, 2011 9:53 PM BST
what will happen to the u.s tote, nobody will bet on the tote, surely betfair cant afford to pay the tote revenue
Report thecanadian April 12, 2011 10:13 PM BST
winstonsmith1984 Joined: 03 Sep 10
Replies: 1331 12 Apr 11 17:30 
what news did u hear?  gotta link to a story?



I'm disgusted, truly disgusted SillySillySilly

Our resident P/C's player, punter extraordinaire, expert of experts, the pinnacle  of racing knowledge, the one, the only, champagne and caviar boobus americanus (or is it boobus-middle-class-americanus, I forget?) does not know what's going on????

I'm shocked, totally shocked I tell you CryCryCry
Report Kye April 13, 2011 9:33 AM BST
boogie, i don't think tote holds would change at all with introduction of BF into US. There is no evidence in Aust that tote holds are down at all.

thecanadian, do you have to ruin a good thread with your silly childish feud.
Report winstonsmith1984 April 13, 2011 12:00 PM BST
thx for the link, aspy....I don't think it gives us much more hope, though.  Betfair want to have everything in place so they can get as much of a head-start on the competition as possible, whether it be 6 months or 6 years.  Laws need to be changed, politicians need to be paid off, tax revenues need to be fought over, etc.

pythia is the man with the inside info....he works for betfair usa...he sometimes posts the latest news
Report Menelaus April 13, 2011 1:01 PM BST
Here's a refresher course for you billy/winston/lucky/adira/pro/iron or whoever you're sick little mind decided to be today. Have you figured out by now that a racing commission doesn't "grate" licenses, or do you still need some help with that?

You should learn to hide your ignorance a little better. (Hint: you should have posted asking for a link under adira or lucky, not as winston)




Menelaus Joined: 03 Feb 05
Replies: 455 03 Feb 11 15:52 
The photoshopped P&L statements you pollute these forums with are trying to convince us that you are indeed a successful professional, but like I said in an earlier post, all the other clueless stuff you post on here point to a different direction.

First of all, a commission doesn't "grate" a license, it grants a license. Unless by license you mean cheese. And NO, the NJ Racing Commission hasn't granted a license to anyone yet.

Gov. Christie approving exchange betting was baked in the cake long ago, or at least since California passed their bill of approving exchange betting starting in 2012 CONDITIONAL on Horsemen agreeing to a deal with a platform provider such a Betfair.

Huge issues still remain:

1. Horsemen still have to agree to a deal that benefits them complicated by the fact that "horsemen" are represented by different groups often with different agendas. Betfair offers a proven platform but will have to agree to a significantly enhanced profit sharing agreement than the one they have here  in the UK, probably closer to the level that the Yanks are already used to through the various track takeout arrangements  If Betfair were to agree to a higher payback, it may open up Pandora's box for them in how the BHA would view such a deal.

2. The Yanks are aware that exchange betting is a lucrative business, they are not about to hand over millions of new subscribers to Betfair without a fight, they fully understand the impact of cannibalizing their own market to a large extent. Yes, exchange betting will create some new customers but for the most part it will be money migrating from tote betting. The CDI group is already making overtures of developing their own platform and they haven't exactly been a "Betfair friendly" group in offering their product to Betfair in the past. They have the money and the resources to pull it off, especially if they initially simplify the platform by offering strictly exchange betting on horseracing. As soon as NYRA gets their act together, you can be sure they'll follow. California is a mess, who knows what they'll do.

3. Here's the biggest obstacle. For these bills at the State level to have any meaning the FEDERAL law needs to change. Political processes are always cumbersome with various stakeholders all wanting their pound of flesh but especially cumbersome now with the House and the Senate divided. For the moment, it appears that enacting a change in the federal law can only be accomplished by "burying" it as part on another bill but those things are not only very difficult to predict the mood on the Hill right now may be not right for it.

For an industry that you claim you make a living in, you seem to be pretty much ignorant of just about everything that effects it.
Report lucky31 April 13, 2011 1:16 PM BST
Melaine/Comedian

Everyone on here knows your the same poster, that means your the same loser , the same PC liar , the same clown who pretends to  pays their PC in CDN when of course this is impossible.  The same clown whos goes PIP PIP PIP  I need a footy tip ive had a terrible day on the gee gees.
Give it up clown your defeated hands down.
Report Boogie Cat April 13, 2011 6:10 PM BST
i think there must be a good chance it will happen, maybe 2 years away though
Report Johnny Wad April 15, 2011 10:53 AM BST
If you think it's going to happen in the next two years then I suggest you buy betfair shares NOW
Report winstonsmith1984 April 18, 2011 10:54 AM BST
massive scandal unfolding in UK sure to have a negative impact on "betfair usa"
Report rink rat April 19, 2011 2:44 AM BST
And what exactly is this, old chap?
Report Menelaus April 19, 2011 10:00 AM BST
rink rat, try this

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=UK+jockey+scandal
Report Kye April 19, 2011 12:25 PM BST
Already being linked to exchange wagering & US. Check this article out

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/race-fixing-scandal-looms-in-england-american-jockey-sues-over-ban/
Report rink rat April 19, 2011 3:05 PM BST
Thx Kye.
Report thecanadian April 19, 2011 5:23 PM BST
Nonsense. None of this matters.....PRO's already know that a legitimate alternative to Betfair is being developed in Las Vegas as we speak Laugh
Report ante April 19, 2011 5:31 PM BST
"Race fixing is a crime and any allegation must be investigated as such by both the horse racing authorities and the police, for the sake of the jockeys, the trainers, the punters and above all the hundreds of thousands of people who make their living through racing," said Sir Peter Bottomley, a member of the Parliamentary All-Party Racing and Bloodstock Group. "Dishonesty in horse racing is fortunately rare and it must be kept that way."

This part made me laugh.
Report thecanadian April 19, 2011 5:37 PM BST
nice catch, ante

HILARIOUS Laugh
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