U.S. Horse Racing
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Many people are new on here and ask the same questions, or they dont ask and dont get involved either. As this is a betting exhange the more people that play the US Racing Stuff the better for everyone, and the more of betfair attention will we get and the service will be better :)
I for one got dragged in to the lovely horse racing only a year and a half ago, and started just as a silent player on here then, with no video or form or anything, just enjoyed the daily thread and followed Jose, GM10, Shiekh My Hand etc(old stars, only GM10 is a regular here still though)
This was fine for a while, but when I started to understand more and more from reading the daily thread I decided to get down to business and really get in to the stuff, and since I know its not easy to find all the information needed and possibilities to make it all easier and more enjoyable I decided to make a thread where the most common questions and the most important tips can be held :)
1. Form:
There are many places to get form for the US Racing, and im sure everyone will find something that they like and feel comfortable with. There are free options and there are options that cost money:
Thorograph:
Soon after i got into US Racing betfair made a deal with thorograph.com, a serious form provider that make advanced formsheets for most of the tracks in the US. This is normally pretty expensive form, but the great deal is that all betfair users get free, unlimited form if they registrate through this link:
www.thorograph.com/betfair
This is heavy stuff and takes a while to get into, but if the interest already is there this should not be a problem at all, I remember I enjoyed reading guides and watched videos about how to get all out of the form in hours and have never used anything else since(plenty of info on thorograph.com)
DRF:
This is what I think most serious players in US Racing use for form, and even though I never really have given it a real chance I would guess it is real good and a very serious formguide (not sure but I would imagine that this is the racing post of US Racing)
This is not free though but its not extremely expensive either and im sure its much cheaper than guessing, following attheraces or following the money blindly :)
check it out at www.drf.com
This is also a great site for much of the info, like workouts, results, news, to teboards etc, and most of this info is free for all :)
Trackmaster:
never seen a sheet of this stuff but I know a few regulars used this last year and maybe they still do, I have no idea, just knows it excist..
Im sure there is more but these are those I am aware of(there was something at brisnet.com before but dont know if that is anymore, that was free one year ago and is in style very like the Racing Post sheets)
I think all these have a so called Race of the week, where everyone can download the form sheet for that race for free and without need for sign up etc, this is a good way to find the form you are comfortable with :)
2. Videos
There is an own thread about this subject but that is a bit of a mess now so can post the hottest tips for video here as well.
http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
is a great site that shows many tracks, and have to te boards, Morning Lines etc for almost all tracks in the US.
The "problem" with that site is that it is locked for people in the United States. This is easily opened for everyone though, if you set up your Internet Explorer with a US Proxy server. I know this sounds heavy but it really isnt, and here is a very simple guide on how to do this(more advanced guide on the video thread called "For them asking for free videolinks, check out this first!")
In Internet Explorer, go to:
Tools
Internet Options -- Connections Tab -- LAN Settings
Tick the box under "proxy server"
Fill in 66.98.238.8 in the proxy address space and 3128 in the port space. Press enter and voil¿ you are able to watch free video in nice quality through http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
To mention some tracks that you could watch video with through this site is Penn national, Mountaineer, Hawthorne, Finger Lakes, Suffolk Downs, Beulah, Bay meadows, Tampa Bay Downs, Louisiana, Kentucky Downs +++.
It is worth to note that you will not be able to sign in to MSN Messenger, Betfair or other sign in places when you are through a US Proxy Server, but my advice is to use Internet Explorer for video and Mozilla Firefox for betfair and everything else. And after you have got it to work the 1st time turning it on and off is very easy! Just go there you turned it on in the 1st place;
Tools
Internet Options -- Connections Tab -- LAN Settings
and simply tick the box under proxy server on or off, all after how you like it( I reccomend to always turn it off after you are done watching US Racing).
Calracing.com
This site provides free videostreams of Golden Gates, Hollywood Park, Santa Anita(Oak Tree), Bay Meadows and Fairplex, in various quality but as a rule, they work fine!
Simply registrate(fast and easy, no credit card details or anything heavy information required) and you have nice video from thos tracks aswell!
Also try out Funk70.com, a mess of a site but I have heard of people that have got it to work, so worth a shot, no idea what tracks it covers :)
At last its worth to mention that many tracks have video or audio feeds on their own homesite.
www.Turfparadise.com have really nice video for free from Turf Paradise
http://www.philadelphiapark.com/live_video.php
for free video from philly(doesnt always work though)
www.nyra.com for free audiostreams from all NYRA tracks(aqueduct, Saratoga, Belmont)
http://www.monmouthpark.com for free video stream from Monmouth Park
3) Other information
Not much to add here really that I have in my mind right now, but a very usefull link is this one:
http://www.drf.com/workoutHorseSearch.do
Type in the name of a horse and you will see all official workouts the horse have had, if it have had anyone. Useful at times, but dont put to much in to it. Nice to check out though, and in races with lightly raced horses or newcommers its a great tool!
For results use
http://www.drf.com/results/rindex.html
or just
http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
If there is still questions or things that is not clear dont hesitate with asking a question or two, why not use this thread for questions and answers? :)
Good Luck,
and welcome to US Racing :)
Kaggen
I for one got dragged in to the lovely horse racing only a year and a half ago, and started just as a silent player on here then, with no video or form or anything, just enjoyed the daily thread and followed Jose, GM10, Shiekh My Hand etc(old stars, only GM10 is a regular here still though)
This was fine for a while, but when I started to understand more and more from reading the daily thread I decided to get down to business and really get in to the stuff, and since I know its not easy to find all the information needed and possibilities to make it all easier and more enjoyable I decided to make a thread where the most common questions and the most important tips can be held :)
1. Form:
There are many places to get form for the US Racing, and im sure everyone will find something that they like and feel comfortable with. There are free options and there are options that cost money:
Thorograph:
Soon after i got into US Racing betfair made a deal with thorograph.com, a serious form provider that make advanced formsheets for most of the tracks in the US. This is normally pretty expensive form, but the great deal is that all betfair users get free, unlimited form if they registrate through this link:
www.thorograph.com/betfair
This is heavy stuff and takes a while to get into, but if the interest already is there this should not be a problem at all, I remember I enjoyed reading guides and watched videos about how to get all out of the form in hours and have never used anything else since(plenty of info on thorograph.com)
DRF:
This is what I think most serious players in US Racing use for form, and even though I never really have given it a real chance I would guess it is real good and a very serious formguide (not sure but I would imagine that this is the racing post of US Racing)
This is not free though but its not extremely expensive either and im sure its much cheaper than guessing, following attheraces or following the money blindly :)
check it out at www.drf.com
This is also a great site for much of the info, like workouts, results, news, to teboards etc, and most of this info is free for all :)
Trackmaster:
never seen a sheet of this stuff but I know a few regulars used this last year and maybe they still do, I have no idea, just knows it excist..
Im sure there is more but these are those I am aware of(there was something at brisnet.com before but dont know if that is anymore, that was free one year ago and is in style very like the Racing Post sheets)
I think all these have a so called Race of the week, where everyone can download the form sheet for that race for free and without need for sign up etc, this is a good way to find the form you are comfortable with :)
2. Videos
There is an own thread about this subject but that is a bit of a mess now so can post the hottest tips for video here as well.
http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
is a great site that shows many tracks, and have to te boards, Morning Lines etc for almost all tracks in the US.
The "problem" with that site is that it is locked for people in the United States. This is easily opened for everyone though, if you set up your Internet Explorer with a US Proxy server. I know this sounds heavy but it really isnt, and here is a very simple guide on how to do this(more advanced guide on the video thread called "For them asking for free videolinks, check out this first!")
In Internet Explorer, go to:
Tools
Internet Options -- Connections Tab -- LAN Settings
Tick the box under "proxy server"
Fill in 66.98.238.8 in the proxy address space and 3128 in the port space. Press enter and voil¿ you are able to watch free video in nice quality through http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
To mention some tracks that you could watch video with through this site is Penn national, Mountaineer, Hawthorne, Finger Lakes, Suffolk Downs, Beulah, Bay meadows, Tampa Bay Downs, Louisiana, Kentucky Downs +++.
It is worth to note that you will not be able to sign in to MSN Messenger, Betfair or other sign in places when you are through a US Proxy Server, but my advice is to use Internet Explorer for video and Mozilla Firefox for betfair and everything else. And after you have got it to work the 1st time turning it on and off is very easy! Just go there you turned it on in the 1st place;
Tools
Internet Options -- Connections Tab -- LAN Settings
and simply tick the box under proxy server on or off, all after how you like it( I reccomend to always turn it off after you are done watching US Racing).
Calracing.com
This site provides free videostreams of Golden Gates, Hollywood Park, Santa Anita(Oak Tree), Bay Meadows and Fairplex, in various quality but as a rule, they work fine!
Simply registrate(fast and easy, no credit card details or anything heavy information required) and you have nice video from thos tracks aswell!
Also try out Funk70.com, a mess of a site but I have heard of people that have got it to work, so worth a shot, no idea what tracks it covers :)
At last its worth to mention that many tracks have video or audio feeds on their own homesite.
www.Turfparadise.com have really nice video for free from Turf Paradise
http://www.philadelphiapark.com/live_video.php
for free video from philly(doesnt always work though)
www.nyra.com for free audiostreams from all NYRA tracks(aqueduct, Saratoga, Belmont)
http://www.monmouthpark.com for free video stream from Monmouth Park
3) Other information
Not much to add here really that I have in my mind right now, but a very usefull link is this one:
http://www.drf.com/workoutHorseSearch.do
Type in the name of a horse and you will see all official workouts the horse have had, if it have had anyone. Useful at times, but dont put to much in to it. Nice to check out though, and in races with lightly raced horses or newcommers its a great tool!
For results use
http://www.drf.com/results/rindex.html
or just
http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/
If there is still questions or things that is not clear dont hesitate with asking a question or two, why not use this thread for questions and answers? :)
Good Luck,
and welcome to US Racing :)
Kaggen
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nice one kaggen
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Very useful-some of us still here after many years....BOOM!
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weel said kaggen :)
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well even
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kaggen do you know where i can find track conditions for free.
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golly, every track has its own web page u can check it there, also u can get it at Bris or DRF
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Yup Elise took the words out of my mouth :) Just google the track you are wondering about and click into it, almost all tracks will have such info on their site :)
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Actually no need to google, links to all tracks are to be find on this link
http://drf.com/racing_links/links_tracks.html :) |
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All tracks can be found on this page:
http://www.drf.com/racing_links/links_tracks.html |
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lol n1 toccet :^0
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Great minds.... :)
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thx appreciated :)
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great guide kaggen. a must read for beginners ;)
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for you grr, gl m8 :)
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brilliant - thanks.
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Glad you found it useful m8 :)
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There is a delay of around 30 seconds on my video to the live market prices, any way of speeding up the video?
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Nope you cant use internet streams for In Play Betting im afraid
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Are people in the US able to do that?
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how long to be paid out on us
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People in the us aint allowed to use betfair, dont know if they find away to do it even if they aint allowed though..
But, Im pretty sure people in Canada have faster pics than us! :) |
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It normally takes about 10 minutes to get paid, but this varies from if there is UK racing in the same time, late scratches left in the market, if betfair have messed up somehow or if there are entries(1 or 1A) placed(then normally almost a half hour to settling)
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From the result is official that is!
Stewards will delay this.. |
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nice one Kaggen
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Mr Bing.
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a couple of questions re USA racing I would like to ask.
1, can someone please explain the term 'tag' for me? really not sure what this is. 2, horses perform better on turf or dirt? guess this is pretty much down to the horse but in a switch from turf to dirt or vice versa, is there an indicator to which is preferred |
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Can't answer your question completely, but if a horse har ran good on a synthetic surface this often will be a good indicator for that the horse will also like turfracing. I just remember I picked up this somewhere on the web, I think it was in a preview of a race written by Jerry Brown, and I have also noticed that this was correct in many cases.
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What is it with US race times? They never seem to go off when advertised... sometimes if you log onto a card, its finished 10 minutes before it was due to start!! Do they just let them run as soon as they get them loaded.
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here
http://horseracing.sportsline.com/cbs/liveracing/ :) use this link to follow the count down to the races, the times listed at betfair is just an indicator and worth nothing. Tampa Bay was even advertised 10 minutes early from the beginning today by betfair. Philly is always early, and Hawthorne is not often right either. For philly I just watch the countdown on the free videolink from above. :) :) |
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Many thanks for that... thought I was going mad!
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very good post,good idea.
Maybe this post can be kept updated as much as possible. I have to agree that funk70.com is not a bit of a mess.Its a total mess and has to go down as one of the worst sites ive come accross.Good idea,but total let down. |
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Agree Westfour, i try to bump is when i'm around but have had a week or two with very little betting so it have kinda dropped out :)
Glad you liked it btw :) |
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Where does one get t0te information for Laurel Park?
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You will find Laurel pool betting at secure1.racingus.com.
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Top Stuff Kaggeen Many Thanks to you sir! :)
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Hi Guys,
I'm fairly new to Betfair, but would like to get more into US racing. Is there any website similar to our own Racing Post, where it's easy to understand and follow the form for US racing( and maybe have live betting shows)?, or do you have to use different websites for different tracks?. Great Forum guys. |
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I'm not sure if I understand your question, what are u looking for, form or tips?
I don't think there is a copy of racing post with american form, but DRF.com have almost the same position in horse racing as Racing Post, from here you could find all you need to take part of us racing. I have written about formproviders above, and you could check out brisnet.com , last time I checked the form sheets was quite similar to the Racing post, but I have never used it myself and don't know much of that concep.. If this wasn't what you asked for I'm sorry, ask again then :) GL :) |