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Menelaus
23 Nov 12 22:11
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Do yourself a favor and spend some time reflecting why you frequent this forum. Because whatever the reasons are, learning is not one of them. But far more important, decide how much you want to respect yourself so others may respect you the same way.

David
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Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 23, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
Thank you David.
You do have a polite side after all.
I would simply repreat the words back to you, in that they are just as applicable to you.
I'm simply mostly trying to counterbalance the one eyed view you present of things, by reminding people that if they are willing to look around, they will find many alternative scenarios being discussed and debated by well respected theoreticians, if that is what they are interested in following.
Report Menelaus November 24, 2012 1:19 AM GMT
It sounds like you are still looking for those clever respected theoriticians to show you the way. If I have had one consistent message one here for forumites, and one that obvioulsy eluded you, is to THINK for yourselves.

May be where I failed to see the obvious is that perhaps in some posters such as yourself that is asking the impossible.

What has also been totally lost on me is that in order for one to learn, one must first at least possess a basic understanding of what's been debated. Sadly that is something beyond reach for you, perhaps that's why you keep repeating the same nothing over and over again and end up reaching out to any wh0re that is desperate enough to have you as an ally.

Just concentrate on your self respect from now on, everything else posted on here is just noise for you. And please stop coming on top of my posts from now on, you do a disservice to others because you hide them from those who have a chance to understand and learn from them. Thank you.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 24, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
Sorry David, but I will comment on any of your posts if and when I decide, not you.
Also I fail to see how my generalised comments will influence others from deciding whether to follow your opinions slavishly or otherwise.
You seem to have a strange mental condition in which if someone accepts your views unreservedly then they are thinking for themselves, but if they just accept your views as being just one of the many contradictorey views out there, then they are not thinking for themselves.
Incidentally I have never ever said that your views are not worthy ones, but merely that they are not the perfect explanation of what is happening nor the perfect answer for how to proceed in the future.
If you would just occasionally qualify your views with a few admissions of personal doubt, then you might find that not only me but many others on here might engage you a little bit more actively in real debate.
As it is you are so fixated in your opinions and so convinced of the absolute rightness of them, there is really no point in entering into any open discusions with you.
You often ask people to comment on your posts, but very rarely do you get any takers.
Ever asked yourself why ?
Your rudeness and incivility has resulted in persons not bothering either to give you any meaningful feedback or to even ask for further explanations.
I can't believe that your lecture program at the LSE ( for nonstudents I believe) can be any sort of resounding success, if you behave there in any manner similar to how you behave on here.
Report Menelaus November 24, 2012 7:22 AM GMT
You are a pathetic, stupid little man.

Since I unblocked you to have a genuine, and I repeat genuine, conversation here, a chance that you squandered in the shameless hypocrisy you expressed in your very next post, I went and read some of the stuff you posted on all the other threads.

It was profoundly insane of me to ask you to self reflect and change your ways. No one can change their DNA chain through introspection. You are a pathetic stupid old man who lost all self respect. You are  foolish enough to think that because you are posting anonymously, hiding behind a keyboard, none of what you do on here matters. I have news for you, it does. TO YOU......unless of course you are totally devoid of shame which is not at all outside the realm of possibilities.

It's the same story over and over and over again. You don't agree with me, my views are extreme, I'm a nutter NOT because that you were able to take apart my posts and refute them in any way but simply because, well......you think there must be a "credible theorist" out there somewhere who can.

You've posted on here for years, under two different names, but when I ask you to point me to a SINGLE post (yes, just ONE fecking post will do) where you made some contribution on here you just simply ignore me. All I hear is crickets chirping.

Because you haven't and you never will. You just don't know enough. You are just too stupid to think for yourself.

And since you are very much aware the substance of what I put up on here is beyond your reach, you attack me for me style and my manners. Case in point the Stow thread.

You accused me of berating someone when all he did was post some links. If hypocrisy was gold gilded you'd be a very rich man. The post was not intended to berate Stow, it was to encourage him to start thinking to his potential. First of all, and I explained all this is my post, there was a single line posted along with the link that suggested Stow considered the report credible. And why not, the story appeared at BBC and the WSJ, they would be telling lies and rubbish, would they? YES THEY WOULD and they are confident that they can get away with it too. Because they know a simpleton like you can't think for himself.  He waits for credible experts to give him the answers. In fact, in this case *THEY ARE* those credible experts.

So posting those links, without the information that followed in my post that you evidently found so offensive was WRONG. It was highly misleading, not intentionally because Stow didn't know the rest of the story himself but inadvertently. The overwhelming majority who would have bothered to bring up the story wouldn't be remotely aware that it is flawed. So when I take the time to point out the story is rubbish and explain why, instead of thanking me for opening your eyes on something that you wouldn't figure out on your own in a million years, you criticize me for it. Someone on here is displaying a "strange mental condition" but it sure as hell isn't me.

If you have any views, you know that kind that you actually came up with it yourself, put them up for all to see. I do that virtually every day on here. Doing nothing else but coming on top of my posts every time I put something up and repeating the same rubbish over and over and over again is getting a little stale. Let others decide for themselves what to think of my views. You've said the same thing countless times, I'm sure they get it by now. I'm not asking you to accept my views, I couldn't give a toss whether you do or not. You couldn't decide on your own anyways. I'm asking you not to insist in taking the chance for others to broaden their understanding and learn by burying my posts under rubbish. I'm asking you not to clutter the forum with.....NOTHINGNESS.....just because you are a pathetic, stupid and spiteful old man who deep down in his heart knows he doesn't really belong on here.

It is utterly shameful that someone like you who doesn't even have a basic understanding of finance and economics is even allowed to post on here. It is utterly disgraceful that you made it your mission to take away the voice of someone who does.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 24, 2012 8:21 AM GMT
None of which even remotely addresses the points I raised.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's not just me who doesn't enter into detailed rebuttal of your theories.
It's virtually everybody else on here.
And don't go into some egotistical fairyland by claiming that means your posts are so logically iron clad, that they are absolutely irrefutable.
There have been quite a number of very qualified posters on here who have given up in total disgust when they have tried to point out where you are wrong or even might be wrong.
You know who they are, and I could say shame on you for making them decide you're not worthwhile enough to debate and to stick around for the benefit of us others.
You have essentially totally ruined this forum.
The day you depart for good ( and not in some hissy fit you recently had) will be a truly meaningful day for the forum.
You will not be missed, except in a totally negative sense.
Civility and sanity will rule once again.
Look it is pretty obvious that you fail miserably in debating with your peers in the world of high finance, and so you come on here to compensate for your failings there, by getting some very soft victories on here.
I will therefore close with your opening line.
You are a pathetic, stupid little man.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 24, 2012 8:29 AM GMT
Btw in case anybody is wondering why I'm still posting at the god awful hour of the morning, there some Japanese J league football games on.
I keep repeaing, this is after all still a gambling web site, the last time I looked.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 24, 2012 10:17 AM GMT
Melly

I don't think anybody objects to you having an opinion but use the post to stow judge as an example. Some people quite possibly would find your post an interesting and insightful one but then you have to sprinkle a bit of Melly magic on top and layer dogs abuse upon dogs abuse on someone with whom you have barely previously interracted. I don't know you. You could be a mad genius for all I know. You certainly display glaring traits of being completely bonkers and it ruins the effect of anything which you might have to contribute.

You say you are a lecturer at the LSE. well good for you. Do you behave this way in the lecture room?
Report Menelaus November 24, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
Btw in case anybody is wondering why I'm still posting at the god awful hour of the morning, there some Japanese J league football games on.

Nice try. You are still up and posting at that god awful hour of the morning because you are a spiteful pitiful man seriously addicted to trashing my posts

I keep repeaing, this is after all still a gambling web site, the last time I looked.

In other words, you keep repeating because this a gambling web site the forum should be held to a LOWER STANDARD so a clueless mug like you feels right at home posting rubbish. Brilliant.

None of which even remotely addresses the points I raised.

The ONLY pertinent point here is that you have been on here for years and not only have contributed NOTHING you go to great lengths to silence someone who does. . That's the third time I challenge you to point me to a SINGLE post, just ONE post, you know, the number that comes after ZERO, where you made a contribution and its the third time you fail to do so. You can't and you never will.

In case you hadn't noticed, it's not just me who doesn't enter into detailed rebuttal of your theories.
It's virtually everybody else on here
.

Has it ever crossed your feeble mind that others GET IT, therefore there's no need for a rebuttal. Has it also crossed your pea sized brain that some things have NO rebuttal? It may surprise you to learn that not everyone on here is waiting for "credible experts" to think for them, THEY THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

The day you depart for good ( and not in some hissy fit you recently had) will be a truly meaningful day for the forum.
You will not be missed, except in a totally negative sense
.

This only betrays your ONLY mission on here. To bury everything I put up under enough sh1t that it makes it onerous for others to read, and until I get frustrated to the point that I depart the forum. Not everyone shares your opinion. One forumite posted repeatedly that they don't want me to stop posting because they find what I have to say insightful and useful. Another forumite posted that my write-ups are the only thing they now follow since they find them more useful than what paid shills and pundits are regurgitating in mainstream media. Why do you insist on wanting to deny those posters to continue to read and learn. Why are you so spiteful and hypocritical that because YOU DON'T GET IT no else is allowed to either.


I will therefore close with your opening line.
You are a pathetic, stupid little man
.

Even you insults is repeating what someone else posted devoid of any originality. No one ever won arguing with a sign post and at this juncture you are starting to make a sign post look like a genius. And I have never met a sign post who thinks so little of itself, it denigrates itself every day on a public forum……..gambling site and all.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 24, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
I thought you blocked Fine As and refused to read anything he wrote.
Report chatlame November 24, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzqRKmZiGI0
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 24, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
No the real truth is that it's not worth anybody trying to argue with a bigot.
And you are the most perfect example of a bigot I have come across in many a year, if not ever.
Your basic claim that your economic arguments are absolutely irrefutable is so ridiculous as to be laughable. Come on, has there ever been a " science" where that sort of claim is in fact least likely ever to be true.
The only thing that people unconditionally get on here, is that you are a loudmouth trying to bulldoze everybody into your way of looking at things.
What your particular reason for doing that will forever be unknown, but it most surely is not totally disconnected to the fact that you have positioned yourself in the market in a particularly extreme manner, and it would most suit your purposes for anybody you can influence, to come round to your way of thinking.
Best of. You're going to need it most likely.
I will retire now and leave the forum to you as you so earnestly desire, at least till you run out of steam or ( more likely) you end up being kicked off it due to your crude profanity and insulting personality becoming too much for people to bear.
I feel I have not gained anything on here recently, except perhaps to witness humanity in its basest form. A pretty disgusting experience truth be told.
You're a low life Menelaus, an educated one, but no better for that.
Report Menelaus November 24, 2012 4:46 PM GMT
Oh, the hypocrisy is dripping all over my monitor. After years of posting, you still find it impossible to point to a SINGLE post, just ONE post, that you can claim makes a contribution on here, yet here you are again calling me names and denigrating yourself......while at the same time having the audacity to call me a bigot !!!!

With brain dead maggots like you around, no wonder bankers rule the world.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 24, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
A final word of advice to all on here.
I agree with EO's assessment that he is really quite insane. I can literally see the spittle shooting from his mouth.
So if you read his posts with that basic premise firmly intact, then you might just be OK.
Otherwise God help you.
Report chatlame November 24, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
I appreciate comedians with a varied repertoire.
Report Menelaus November 25, 2012 1:22 PM GMT
Point to ONE post, just ONE post, a SINGLE post, how hard could that be FFS?

IMPOSSIBLE, that's how hard. Stop cluttering the forum for other halfwit, is that too much to ask FFS?
Report Menelaus November 25, 2012 1:22 PM GMT
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