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what do we reckon? all aboard the short bus tomorrow?
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IPO price is $38. ($104bn market cap)
Already trading at $128bn on igindex grey markets. Tempted to short at that price. |
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Remind me again, in clownland language "tempted" means "I've gone short", "getting into position to get short", or "take the other side of the trade if you spot a european swallow"?
No rush, whenever you get up from your knees. |
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I remember when google listed at 120$.The same mouthpieces then were saying "its too expensive". It did nothing but go up.
I think facebook will be similar. Don't underestimate the savvy of the guys running these companies.You dont get a billion users by accident.they will find a way to make it pay. The leverage with all those users is enormous one they find the formula. For example- what's to stop them listing google ads on each FB page, linked to the persons interests? Google already has this software. Down the right hand side an unobtrusive say 10/15% of the page. On General motors page for eg , google ads for dealers or car selling sites. Too easy. facebook is a buy buy buy for investors. |
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how do they make money, just from advertising?
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I suppose our resident village idiot thinks *that* could pass off as analysis. And then the other mug on the other thread wonders why I'm such a "disagreeable priick"?
My eyes fill with tears when I read benny the clown's stuff on here.....from laughter. |
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Let's do the math.
In 2011 Facebook reported $3.8bn in REVENUE. We don't know what the PROFIT was because as a private company they don't have to tell us. Let's be generous and just assume that they are in Google profit margin category (27.5pc) which translates into just over one billion $$$ in profit ($1.045). This implies a P/E ratio of 95.7 with a RETURN on investment of only just over 1pc under the IPO valuation. Where do I line up to buy this dreadful investment??? And I haven't even mentioned the greatest headwind they face, uncertainty over how privacy law rulings will end up in Congress, nor the fact that I find it highly suspect that they offered 25pc to retail, or did Zuckerberg found religion and I didn't get the memo. But hey, why fret the details, do like benny the clown and just pull your finger out of your arse and make the call. The IPO has been pumped by every sale side w******e out there for a long time now with all the hysteria climaxing today, with CNBC taking a breather from being an AAPL infomercial and hyping Facebook. The "investors" retards will pile in and the price will pop. It's the last chance for the TBTFs to generate optimism and pump the market which is on the verge of turning over, so expect ferocious pumping. Then wait a few weeks and short the living daylights out of this dog. Math never lies. |
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I thought in English we said " Let's do the maths ". Whatever.
In summary, Menelaus thinks all the following are complete idiots: Bernanke Buffet Jobs Zuckerberg It seems to me that Polybot, Whippet and Mr Ben should thus be pleased to think they are being classed in great company, and stop protesting when Menelaus piles into them with personal abuse. |
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your "math" melly exposes your for the retard you are.
no doubt when facebook hits 100$ you will claim its ' for the wrong reasons" what was the revenue for google when it listed? Did it stay the same? You retard. your posts are so bizzarre they are no longer worth reading except for entertainment. you have demonstrated over and over how incredibly simplistic you are. your analysis of FB is high school standard. your gold graph extraoplation if maybe primary school . I have no doubt you are the dumbest person in the history of financial forums. facebook will hit 100$ no problems.For the same reasons AAPL and google went from strength to strength. something a retard simpleton like you melly will never understand or accept. |
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no strong opinion on facebook but i love the image of melly watching CNBC, apeing some of the pundits on it, then calling them apes.
i can almost picture him ranting at the tv screen  |
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I wish I had your confidence MrBen
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Lot's of insults hurled my way BUT NOT A MORSEL of analysis to refute my post.
I have no idea why benny the clown is going through his usual histrionics again, owing FB is out of the question for him. You can't do that with a $5,000 trading account that you keep replenishing every few months. |
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If pure maths drove the markets then your analysis might well turn out to be correct.
If only everything market driven could be recuced to maths. Wouldn't that just be lovely for us all, who can do compound interest calculations. Alas not to be. |
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exactly right froggy.
melly has a one dimensional a+b+c= d view of the world. his miniscule brain cannot wrap itself around the fact their are other possibilities. if the financial world could be fit into this simple type view everyone could get rich from it in a short time. reality is, mellys view make you buy gold at 1680  |
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It's worse than that Mr Ben.
He cannot seem to accept or admit that he is not the only person in the universe capable of anaytical thought. His view is the only view and is irrefutable. A very, very dangerous mindset in the investment world. Brings to mind the old saying that arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand. Menelaus is not stupid. Far from it. He would not be such a worry if he was. He is worse than that. He is willfully deluded and thinks his views are unchallengeable. |
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FSFH, I haven't got the faintest idea what you posted nor do I give a flying feck but you should know THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN A VILLAGE IDIOT IS THOSE FOOLS LISTENING TO HIM IN THE TOWN SQUARE.
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"Menelaus is not stupid. Far from it."
no, he's definitely stupid. |
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Listen polyahole, I have better things to do with my time than watch you drool with envy and you throw your heels at me every day on here.
You were born stupid. Unfortunately I regret to inform you that you'll die that way. The only thing you can do at this point, but I doubt you can, is try and work in not being such an ahole. You may find a woman to take you in that way and not be as much of a burden to your mom. |
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7 minutes to the listing.
Go facebook Go facebook Go facebook Go facebook Go facebook Go facebook Go facebook  |
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" willfully deluded"
I'm going to start using that one.  |
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melly- you are most definitly stupid
you have made 1911 posts. I would say maybe 11 made some kind of sense , the other 1900 were all STUPID!  |
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Spoken with the true intellect of a five year old child. I didn't realize the markets were a kids playground, or a three ring circus......but what do you expect from a clown.
The stock will pop. There are idiots like benny the clown a plenty who can't do basic arithmetic. Wait a couple of weeks and then short the feck out of it. Simple. |
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Are you buying FB with the cash you made from ebay selling your florboards melly?
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the smile on zuckerberg's face will be as big as the frown on mellys
 Go facebook Go facebook |
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Take your pills you lunatic, your fits have totally taken over the forum today.
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and you wonder why we insult you twathead
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Has it popped to $100 yet????
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anyway I hap a nap earlier on so I can trade the AUD into the early dow session.
so buckle in mutherfukker |
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i realise you dont comprehend well melly- try to follow- it goes to 100+, but not today
plz try to follow and maybe have a dictionary handy |
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Good idea a nap, we need to stop laughing. Regrettably you'll wake up just as stupid.
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hows the bps going?
Go facebook |
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What, can't fall asleep?
Your meds keeping you up? Trying taking off the clown outfit before going to bed, it might help. |
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how can I have a clowns outfit when it is permanently welded to your back?
btw- when is this FB trading. midnight and I have to go home from the ball. |
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Remind me again, what time is it where you live?
I own you so much, you can't even log-off and get some sleep. Pathetic if you are asking me.  |
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what does "I own you so much " mean?
plz explain. oh and put some more wood into the 44 gallon drum as well |
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Go to sleep you lunatic.
You belong in a straight jacket.........that's what it means. |
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dow up 5 bps
gold up 18 bps facebook- unchanged |
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Based on the action I see when it *finally* started trading, it won't take two weeks to start shorting this dog.
Like Bill Gross tweeted today, I know a bubble when I see one. |
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"The "investors" retards will pile in and the price will pop. It's the last chance for the TBTFs to generate optimism and pump the market which is on the verge of turning over, so expect ferocious pumping. Then wait a few weeks and short the living daylights out of this dog. "
when's it going to pop melly? still shorting in a few weeks? dufus. |
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It popped to $45, 200K traded at that level first print.
How you gone total retard, are you also trading with yahoo charts like benny the clown? |