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MONEY TREE
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looks about on par with investing in dinars.

both will be worth pennies in 2012.
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Report Whippet May 28, 2011 1:38 PM BST
looking at lse there are quite a lot of delayed trades at 4:57pm, at 2.67, but everything traded just before close was at 3.11, and there is another delayed trade at after close at 3.10. google finance showing a big delayed trade at 2.26pm, at 2.55p, when price was at 3.0p, so would take some of these things with a pinch of salt.
Report Whippet May 30, 2011 10:55 PM BST
apparently this hit 3.2p today on the german stock exchanges, so hopefully a blue day tomorrow as well.
Report alexmillwall June 3, 2011 11:11 AM BST
back to 2.6, value?
Report MONEY TREE June 3, 2011 9:52 PM BST
im going to set up monthly buy ins on this.
Report Muqbil June 4, 2011 12:12 PM BST
Are these only trade-able over the phone?

Went through the whole rigmarole of setting up an a/c with iii and then found they can only be bought over the phone. Is this the case with all brokers and penny shares/ HER?
Report gresty241 June 4, 2011 12:16 PM BST
bought mine online using hargreaves lansdown.
www.h-l.com
Report Whippet June 4, 2011 1:39 PM BST
td waterhouse can deal online.

I think this has to be very good value at current prices. In fact most AIM resources shares are dirt cheap atm; most have lost 25-50% since January. Minimal downside from here and plenty of upside, therefore huge value.
Report MONEY TREE June 4, 2011 4:59 PM BST
im on iii and buy them online.
Report Muqbil June 4, 2011 10:55 PM BST
How bizare.

The whole process of opening an account with iii has taken from last Friday until yesterday (obv a bank holiday in between). Once the account was eventually opened which required loads of phone calls as I never recieved a letter, I went to buy HER @ 2.60 and was referred to phone traders.

I will try HL as iii have been next to useless tbh. Thanks for your input guys, prob a big hurdle to the average joe buying HER is the whole charade of setting up accounts etc. Never had any such problems with CAD through Saxo, limit order, bumph, done.
Report turtleshead June 5, 2011 12:58 PM BST
I had no problems with iii, a couple of times the message came up about reference to phone traders but that could simply be because there were none available (or fewer than at the price you specified) at the exact moment you confirmed it.

Got confirmation emailed to me straight away, would happily use them again.
Report Muqbil June 6, 2011 5:51 PM BST
Will give it another try with iii before opening another  a/c.
Report Whippet June 7, 2011 6:47 PM BST
up 11% today Laugh

there is news about patricia/doris/la rosa drilling due by mid june, plus there is an AGM on thursday, so I'm guessing people are buying in in anticipation of that.
Report alexmillwall June 8, 2011 8:06 AM BST
I noticed that, was 2.7 offered now 2.8 bid, ill grow some one day and get involved
Report Whippet June 14, 2011 9:01 PM BST
There is talk by pro geologists over on the iii board that todays RNS indicates that there is 22 million ounces of silver in that vein alone. Plus 5.9% Zinc and 2.6%. It seems highly probable that Patricia's resource estimate will be at least doubled by the results in November. That is before you even count whats at doris/la rosa (it is starting to look like all are inter connected). If the patricia resource doubles then we will be trading at 6p by november based on that alone, and significantly higher based on what the doris/la rosa JORC says. Start accumulating these heavily over the next 5 months because that is when the rocket will be taking off imo.
Report MONEY TREE June 14, 2011 9:19 PM BST
will they flog shareholders silver on the cheap??
Report sofiakenny June 15, 2011 1:57 AM BST
Money Tree you have your fingers in many pies palHappy
Report jinkin June 15, 2011 7:28 PM BST
excellent RNS today, been in for a year now, these have the potential to fly towards the end of the year.
Report alexmillwall June 16, 2011 10:05 AM BST
price falling... is this sector related?

want tit to get down to 2.5 before i get invovled
Report jinkin June 16, 2011 9:57 PM BST
yeah, fundementals are good long term. just the AIM being quite volatile at the moment.
Report alexmillwall June 17, 2011 1:22 PM BST
nearly down to my level, getting cheque book ready
Report gresty241 June 17, 2011 3:47 PM BST
get 'em bought Silly
Report alexmillwall June 21, 2011 10:19 AM BST
ahhhhh verbal forum contract is binding... gota get this sorted.

before i do any words of wisdom?
Report MONEY TREE June 21, 2011 9:35 PM BST
Alex buy low sell high.
Report alexmillwall June 23, 2011 10:14 AM BST
cheers MT... i missed 2.40 few days ago, will jump in at 2.5
Report turtleshead June 23, 2011 6:18 PM BST
2.38 Shocked

10% drop on one day, why?
Report gresty241 June 23, 2011 7:41 PM BST
everything is dropping Plain
Report alexmillwall June 24, 2011 10:41 AM BST
i might buy it one day LOL.. wish i was pro
Report MONEY TREE June 25, 2011 1:16 PM BST
freeing up funds to pop in this one, the info on the mines on iii is good well worth a long term play.
Report alexmillwall July 11, 2011 9:22 AM BST
bump- not much movement
Report alexmillwall July 19, 2011 2:24 PM BST
dropped again
Report gresty241 August 3, 2011 10:09 AM BST
2.0p Shocked
ah well, bought a load more range today at 13.39p, i'm a glutton for punishment Plain
Report alexmillwall August 4, 2011 2:06 PM BST
good buy?
Report gresty241 August 4, 2011 2:22 PM BST
bought again today Shocked, i'm starting to think i am the reason for everything heading south Laugh
ah well Plain
Report gresty241 August 4, 2011 3:18 PM BST
just bought more RRL @ 10.75p expect another fall Plain
Report Whippet August 4, 2011 6:23 PM BST
another good rns today as well. Laugh
Report Modjadji August 4, 2011 10:50 PM BST
1.85 closing price. Shocked

So who is going in again Devil
Report gresty241 August 5, 2011 8:20 AM BST
every time i buy it goes down so i'm gonna buy no more Plain
Report d13phe August 5, 2011 9:23 AM BST
have topped up on my AIM stocks this morning at ridiculous prices.

A few of them are gold tiddlers and why are they going down on current events?

Its purely risk leaving the table.

Buy low, sell high Cool
Report Whippet August 5, 2011 5:52 PM BST
I agree, although buy high, sell low is usually what ends up happening to me. LaughLaugh
Report Mental_patienT August 5, 2011 6:29 PM BST
buy from the panicked sell to the greedy.
Report MONEY TREE August 7, 2011 11:54 AM BST
some got bargains here 1.4p ffs

had no spare funds was gutted.
Report alexmillwall August 12, 2011 11:28 AM BST
got an order to buy at 1.8, results released a few days ago, somebody with a bit more knowledge care to divulge?
Report gresty241 October 4, 2011 4:02 PM BST
gresty241   
every time i buy it goes down so i'm gonna buy no more


1.47p
now i've stopped buying it still goes down Plain

i'm going to buy some more when it hits 0.5p at this rate that will be 10am tomorrow morning Silly
Report MONEY TREE October 13, 2011 10:04 PM BST
good news and still only around 2p, maybe time to sell.
Report gresty241 October 25, 2011 11:21 AM BST
2.5-2.6p
Report alexmillwall October 25, 2011 11:56 AM BST
:)
Report Pastie October 25, 2011 11:58 AM BST
Nice! 2.65p and up over 20% so far today!
Report alexmillwall October 25, 2011 12:02 PM BST
any reason for the move?
Report alexmillwall October 25, 2011 12:05 PM BST
http://www.herenciaresources.com/_content/documents/483.pdf
Report MONEY TREE October 25, 2011 7:09 PM BST
overall market sentiment poor, be nice to be able to factor that into the price, maybe back to 4p.

decided going to buy an amout each month depending on spare funds and have them for long time.
Report Whippet October 25, 2011 8:24 PM BST
this will be worth well over 20p if you are willing to wait a couple of years. They now have three porphyry copper targets on the go as per todays RNS (two at guagamanga and one at la rosa). If they indeed find one then it could be worth billions of dollars (as is usually the case with these types of deposits).
Report MONEY TREE October 26, 2011 4:48 PM BST
is it right that the deposits found at surface are rare and could indicate very deep veins of mineralisation?
Report Whippet October 26, 2011 6:47 PM BST
well they indicate a porphyry copper system may be underneath as there is nice grades at the surface. plus the molybdenum is usually typical of these deposits. these system are typically lower grade but contain million and millions of tonnes of ore, and are quite easily mined (open pit usually). most of the biggest deposits in the world are all porphyry systems and a lot of them are in chile, and not far away from this location. not to say they will find a monster deposit but even a small sized one would be worth hundreds of millions at least.
Report alexmillwall November 24, 2011 9:03 AM GMT
updates?
Report MONEY TREE November 25, 2011 9:02 AM GMT
you can register on their website to get updates. All ticking along and price still going wrong way.
Report alexmillwall November 25, 2011 9:39 AM GMT
ive noticed the drop lately, anyone shed any light why?
Report MONEY TREE November 25, 2011 5:36 PM GMT
Would like to think its the general market sentiment as most stocks on aim suffering, only way we wil knoww is when the markets pick up.
Report Whippet November 25, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
markets are shafted at the moment. but all the updates are very good. and if they discover any porphyry copper deposits (3 possible targets at the moment) then this will be worth many multiples of todays price as those are often worth billions of dollars.
Report gresty241 March 11, 2012 9:18 AM GMT
ttt, thoughts from any of the forum shrewdies on herencia Happy
Report Whippet March 11, 2012 12:34 PM GMT
all the drilling results are looking excellent and looks like big things could happen. like all small miners though the share prices have suffered and could be a while before sentiment returns. one to hold onto i think. if you want quicker gains look to the oilers.
Report MONEY TREE March 12, 2012 6:51 PM GMT
might as well of bought chocolate coins ffs.
Report Jean Jacques March 15, 2012 8:01 PM GMT
Heavily invested in Her and holding.
Any of you mining investers involed in PPA/VIR and can explain what's going on and also shed any light on ORE which has had excellent "Blue day" ?
Report gresty241 July 4, 2012 2:01 PM BST
ah well ticking along nicely at 0.88p Plain
Report MONEY TREE July 6, 2012 11:23 PM BST
told you was a pile of turd.
Report Rampant Rabbit October 15, 2012 8:48 PM BST
Still holding with somewhat gritted teeth.. In quite heaily on San Leon Energy and Bango on AIM.. sem better bets currently than Herencia..
Report gresty241 May 22, 2013 9:49 PM BST
still holding, no doubt i'll have no teeth by the time that these come goodHappy
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! May 25, 2013 3:31 PM BST
They never will.
Report J2BLUE. June 26, 2013 11:54 AM BST
I'm considering buying this...only about £150 worth, but it would surely be a nice little gamble? 25,000 shares or so in this could potentially be a great bet.
Report alfee June 26, 2013 1:29 PM BST
il say this only once, IGAS !
Report gresty241 June 27, 2013 6:35 PM BST
i've got a load in my SIPP but unfortunatly for me i retire in about 22 years and still think they'll be going backwards until then.. Silly
Report J2BLUE. June 28, 2013 7:31 PM BST
Pulled the trigger today on 23635 shares. I want £1000 in various shares by the end of the year.

Would like to (eventually) build a large dividend paying portfolio.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 5, 2013 2:55 PM BST
How much would you have to invest in a dividend one to make it worthwhile?
Report J2BLUE. July 5, 2013 10:16 PM BST
Depends on the yield and what your definition of worthwhile is.

My definition of worthwhile is a few k a year to begin with. 5% yield, 2k a year I would need £40,000 portfolio. Far easier said than done. The 2k thing would be reinvested each year. Ideally eventually you would dividend income and other cash flow paying all of your expenses so you are financially free.

I'm going to target:

Warehouse/industrial REITs (depending on price, no research done on price yet, just a trend I think will happen)
Utility stocks
Mining stocks (not gold)
Medical stocks (need more research here but the world population is ageing, especially in Europe/USA)
Food producers
1-2 very carefully chosen retailers. (I have one in mind which I won't name! That stock is annoyingly up 3.3% since I decided it was a buy. I need a better job!)
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 6, 2013 12:20 PM BST
Is retail safe?

I was thinking of doing a speculative portfolio as in try and predict where the country will be in a decade and buy stocks to suit that.
Report J2BLUE. July 6, 2013 8:05 PM BST
Any retailer which relies on selling luxury or expensive goods is one to avoid in my opinion but there are some things we all need even in a recession or worse.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 7, 2013 11:45 PM BST
Well that's wrong you better do your research again.

Take the supermarkets since 2009 the recession has helped stores like aldi increase market share.

But a store that has always been regarded as expensive (waitrose) has also increased.

Recessions may hurt many people but they also make others richer.

Don't write off luxury brands
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 7, 2013 11:46 PM BST
I'd love to know the retail stock you have in mind j2 pm it.
Report J2BLUE. July 8, 2013 7:02 PM BST
There seems to be some confusion about what I meant. It also seems to be my fault because I can see how you got there. I didn't mean luxury brands like Waitrose or Ferrari etc. I am fully aware that sales of luxury cars/yachts etc have gone up and i'm also aware Waitrose is thriving. I live in Ipswich where they have opened a large Waitrose next to a large John Lewis (you can go into either shop and be in both shops, it's cleverly done). This local Waitrose is thriving and they plan on using the same style development in future based on the Ipswich model.

What I meant by luxuries was in the context of a bad recession/depression which I should have mentioned. So in the context luxuries was anything that isn't a basic need such as food, water, heat, light, petrol to get to work etc. All I meant was that I could see people tightening the purse strings and that high street retailers, like Argos, to take a completely random example would be something I steer clear of.

The stock in question is now up 4% on when I identified it. I won't be buying unless it drops down a bit. My strategy is future trends combined with good priced 'safe' stocks which will always have demand. This stock has made some very good decisions in the last year or so and looks very strong to me. Not willing to say any more.

Oh and by the way, regardless of some luxury brands showing strong sales, I still wouldn't buy them and since this game is a matter of opinion I don't see how I can be 'wrong' because of that. The rich will get richer, I agree, I still don't look on brands like Wairose as safe investments though.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 9, 2013 7:30 PM BST
That's lucky as you can't buy shares in them anyway!!

Yes I misunderstood your meaning of luxury.

One thing I am looking at long term is land. The bigger populations get the more pressure will be to develope for living and feeding.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 13, 2013 12:56 PM BST
And I did put it badly too as was not having a go at your personal choices.
Report J2BLUE. July 15, 2013 6:16 PM BST
No problem.

Those damn shares are up 7% now.
Report J2BLUE. July 17, 2013 7:43 PM BST
9.77% f*#k sake.
Report J2BLUE. July 19, 2013 1:32 PM BST
Now up 12.3% and pays 4% yield. Instead I went for these which have dropped 13.7%. Damn it.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 20, 2013 10:27 PM BST
Go on j2 what was it?
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 20, 2013 10:32 PM BST
Sainsburys??
Report J2BLUE. July 21, 2013 12:20 AM BST
Tesco.

Had about 10 solid reasons to buy them. Missed the boat.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 21, 2013 12:46 PM BST
Unlucky.

Best not to dwell on it.

Like the look of sainsburies.

I have a few thousand shares in John Lewis partnership and they have done well this year so think I'll add more next year.

My worry with tesco is the USA operation, bad move.
Report J2BLUE. July 21, 2013 3:00 PM BST
They are getting out of USA and Japan.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 22, 2013 12:04 AM BST
Very good. You not going to buy? What did you decide on instead?

I think some of the other supermarkets are building a better rep than tescos now have.
Report J2BLUE. July 23, 2013 6:53 PM BST
Tesco will get back the lost ground in my opinion. They have a lot going for them.

I didn't buy anything in the end. Just waiting on the sidelines.
Report gresty241 July 24, 2013 7:37 PM BST
herencia cruising along nicely at 0.4p
Report J2BLUE. July 26, 2013 6:40 PM BST
I bought Tesco shares today when they fell to 364p.

Got 3 more on my buy list. If HER falls any more I might top up to 50,000-100,000 from my current tiny holding of 23,635.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 28, 2013 1:28 AM BST
I'd avoid her lol.

Build a safe holding first.
Report J2BLUE. July 29, 2013 12:07 AM BST
Next on my buy list is actually another one under 1p. After that I will go for some safer ones. There's several I want based on what I think the future trends will be.


We should have a thread where we post what we hold and post every time we buy or sell something. Would be interesting to bounce ideas.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 29, 2013 2:52 PM BST
Not a bad idea j2.

I'm looking at doing a long term holding for my daughter.

A few dividend payers mixed with some cheaper shares with potential.

To be honest her or any low share could go wrong but could also be a big pay day.

You gotta be in it o win it lol.
Report J2BLUE. July 29, 2013 3:08 PM BST
Agreed, just bought a small amount of Fastjet shares. 1p each.

It's quite funny how i'm now spending pretty much all of my disposable income on this! It beats the hell out of wasting it.

Now own:

HER
TSCO
FJET
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 29, 2013 3:46 PM BST
It's good that you are investing for future I'm now having to invest more after going mad spending as youngster.

Need a happy medium IMO. Great to be saving but everyone needs a life and to have a bit of fun
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! July 29, 2013 3:49 PM BST
I have at the min

Her
Rem (purchased after drink lol terribe move)
Snrp

My biggest investment is in jlp at the min they are fixed price for employees so won't go up in value but are a tax free way of investing bonuses and the dividends have been good.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! August 2, 2013 1:27 AM BST
One thing I have not looked at is the best company to use to buy shares through.

Any recommendations?
Report alfee August 2, 2013 2:09 PM BST
get on FRR, KEEP FOR 12 MONTHS .
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