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have a betting shop been open 2 years first year took in 1.2 mil 2nd year 1.7 mil.3rd year will be down i think.what would my biss be worth?
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how many slips are u taking
are u making a profit
how many FOBT have u got
where is the shop
is it a thriving area
and many more quesions before an answer can be given
are u making a profit
how many FOBT have u got
where is the shop
is it a thriving area
and many more quesions before an answer can be given
1100 bets a week,both years profit,1 fobt,the town is quiet bissy.getting bigger.not open late
Your shop is worth very little, if anything at all. If you were doing the business one of the big firms would just open up next door. The Gambling Comm (bunch of fkin leeches) have taken away any value you might have.
The best thing to do is to keep your expenses down as much as poss, easier said than done I know, go and see a few Boozers that are away from any shops and try and get them on board. Make enough in the shop to keep your doors open then make a few "spare bob" on the phones.
The best thing to do is to keep your expenses down as much as poss, easier said than done I know, go and see a few Boozers that are away from any shops and try and get them on board. Make enough in the shop to keep your doors open then make a few "spare bob" on the phones.
as duncan ballatyne one said
'Turnover is vanity, Profit is sanity'
'Turnover is vanity, Profit is sanity'
maine road - The Gambling Comm (bunch of fkin leeches)
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u omitted the word incompetent - otherwise a very good description of them.
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u omitted the word incompetent - otherwise a very good description of them.
Capt F 06 Apr 13:38
ride it out
good times might come back ???
Capt; The good times are never coming back, unless you mean;
All shops close at 6.30, No opening Sundays, Tufr tv collapse and SIS get the courses back and don't charge us any-more, the gamb comm disband, Betfair goes bust, the internet breaks down for good, early prices for just 2 races a day , the irish lottery finishes we pay tax on our net profit , not gross profit, or better still charge the punters 10% then only send a "bit"of it off to the tax man.
In the last month I've paid out £1152 for £2, £576 for a nicker twice and £288 for ten bob 3 times on the Irish Lottery thats 6six 575/1 winners in 4 weeks.
The good times have gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ride it out
good times might come back ???
Capt; The good times are never coming back, unless you mean;
All shops close at 6.30, No opening Sundays, Tufr tv collapse and SIS get the courses back and don't charge us any-more, the gamb comm disband, Betfair goes bust, the internet breaks down for good, early prices for just 2 races a day , the irish lottery finishes we pay tax on our net profit , not gross profit, or better still charge the punters 10% then only send a "bit"of it off to the tax man.
In the last month I've paid out £1152 for £2, £576 for a nicker twice and £288 for ten bob 3 times on the Irish Lottery thats 6six 575/1 winners in 4 weeks.
The good times have gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look up what Cashman bookmakers got for their business, it was sold in the last 6months, should give u a fair enough indication
feel for u maine
how the fobt doing ?
world cup gotta be an earner ?
how the fobt doing ?
world cup gotta be an earner ?
Capt last month 2 FOBTs
Stake £93301 (not money in)
payout £91871
profit £1429 less 30% to supplier of £428 less licence fees for a month £387 leaving a profit of £614 or £307 per machine makin £9.90/day per machine out of a turnover of over 93 grand.
They're are gonna turnover a million and I hope to get £27000 less share £8100 less licence £4650 leavin £14250 which ain'nt enough to pay SIS let alone turf tv.
Fkin paper bill is £1418 a year!
Stake £93301 (not money in)
payout £91871
profit £1429 less 30% to supplier of £428 less licence fees for a month £387 leaving a profit of £614 or £307 per machine makin £9.90/day per machine out of a turnover of over 93 grand.
They're are gonna turnover a million and I hope to get £27000 less share £8100 less licence £4650 leavin £14250 which ain'nt enough to pay SIS let alone turf tv.
Fkin paper bill is £1418 a year!
maine
my friend was contacted by Lads, hand written envolope. He been trading 7 years, side rd up against a good H1lls o the main High St.
He had a good couple of years but is taking 6k a week now 1000 slips.
Big empty shop 3 doors down from h1lls hasnt heard anyhing for a month.
Do u think they will offer him a get of jail card ?
my friend was contacted by Lads, hand written envolope. He been trading 7 years, side rd up against a good H1lls o the main High St.
He had a good couple of years but is taking 6k a week now 1000 slips.
Big empty shop 3 doors down from h1lls hasnt heard anyhing for a month.
Do u think they will offer him a get of jail card ?
If they've already contacted him it's a start. The thing is they will have to spend a few bob getting the shop to look how they want it. They are gonna be up against h ills so if they can start with all yous mates custom its a start. The thing is before the Gamb comm came on the scene his shop had a value, because he had that pitch, now they can open up next door and he will be fkd. On the turnover and slips he's doing any amount would be a bonus.
ladbrokes and hills are in town.the town will not allow another bookies to open.had 1 turned down few months back
Well you've a bit of a chance, if thats the case, just find out who wanted to open and go and approach hem.
Good luck, I'd take whatever they offer. If you've takenover 3 million in 2 years yet only won 70k something is wrong.
maybe £10 hr, for when the big 4 move in ul have no option to take the small offer they give you, at least ul prob get a job off them after it and you never know what shares theyl give you.
it is one guy betting 1 2 3 gs a day cant kill him dont know what to do he is loaded
He's obviously betting with you for a reason, are you guaranteeing all his prices or letting him take earlies that are shortening up?
If thats the case then he won,'t do much in. Don't restrict his bets but try to get him at s.p , he won't go round the corner because they run a mile as you know, and will make him wait etc etc. Just try to offer him a better service but cut out his margin, if he's a pot house gambler he won't stop.
If thats the case then he won,'t do much in. Don't restrict his bets but try to get him at s.p , he won't go round the corner because they run a mile as you know, and will make him wait etc etc. Just try to offer him a better service but cut out his margin, if he's a pot house gambler he won't stop.
i told them all today they had to ask for prices not put them on.they were all at it. takes early prices from hills and lads, but just sj now, i told him they are for internet customers only.think i will get him know if he stays.he lost 1500 today.then put a credit bet on 250ew 10/1 unplaced high fives.he knows i have a big float so will be back.
after i told him.he never picked a winner all day, i have not seen that for a long time
he does take earlys that drop in price.wee do 1 gp race at each meeting
Hope the credit bet went straight in your back bin.
Slowly restrict him you will get him in the end.
Slowly restrict him you will get him in the end.
no it never bud.put all threw pish.do get wee bit off that other ways lol
Had one for 3 years sold it, had one for 12 years sold, had one for 2 years sold it, had one for 2 years sold it, had one for 3 years got know fkin chance of sellin it!!!!!!!!!
Whsilt I sympathise with you aboutt he Gambling Commission, I think the main reason the value of betting shops has fallen is the planning rules change. In Northern Ireland bettign shops are worth much more than Britain, as they have different planning rules.
got him today for 1500 not so easy know with the correct prices
Nice one, keep it up don't let him take you on again, hopefully you will take it all off him then when you know he's skint, thats the time to try and sell. Just remember providing he backs every day and you keep him under control he CANT win.
sad to say but bookies will disappear from the high street within 10 years
noluck 08 Apr 23:53
would you give him credit?
NEVER give him credit over the counter. He will chase then win, but others will see him doing it and ask as well. Tell him the gamb comm no longer allow credit without him giving his bank details, that will put him off. However tell him deposit betting is OK or he can back on the strength of any winners he has to come.
would you give him credit?
NEVER give him credit over the counter. He will chase then win, but others will see him doing it and ask as well. Tell him the gamb comm no longer allow credit without him giving his bank details, that will put him off. However tell him deposit betting is OK or he can back on the strength of any winners he has to come.
bigH 09 Apr 01:43
sad to say but bookies will disappear from the high street within 10 years
Small indys will but the big firms will survive offerin various gimmicks.
sad to say but bookies will disappear from the high street within 10 years
Small indys will but the big firms will survive offerin various gimmicks.
£8300 in £7800 out. Its a myth that you win on the National (apart from last year).
15 years ago would of made about a grand on the "spare Till" avoidin the beeswax.
15 years ago would of made about a grand on the "spare Till" avoidin the beeswax.
He's not doin as much cause your not givin him everythin, but if he loses 3 ton a day or even a week happy days.
The only people who asked me about payin 5 places today were the ones who want guaranteed prices, nr no bet weeks in advance, and things like that. One lad wanted a ton on Chelsea asked if he could have 4/6 I gave him 8/11 he as over the moon, then had a score on a dog that lost and a ton on bay munich who drew, thats he way to get em.
By the way hello bud was 5th that would of cost me £750, basing it on a profit margin of 15% thats 5k or basically 4 days business just pay that.
The only people who asked me about payin 5 places today were the ones who want guaranteed prices, nr no bet weeks in advance, and things like that. One lad wanted a ton on Chelsea asked if he could have 4/6 I gave him 8/11 he as over the moon, then had a score on a dog that lost and a ton on bay munich who drew, thats he way to get em.
By the way hello bud was 5th that would of cost me £750, basing it on a profit margin of 15% thats 5k or basically 4 days business just pay that.
they were all wanting 10-1 ross county but they got 9s ,lost 1k there.i like your style
just manual.that guy owed me 3 ton on acc from yesterday.today on phone 2 ton 7/2 lose,2ton 4s lose,1ton 12s lose,2ton 6s lose,4ton 7/2 lose what can i do to stop this because this is what is being happening he will get 1 then i owe him.he should give me cheque tomor.are u manual to
Capt F 11 Apr 16:20
maine
have u epos or man set ?
Epos couldnt do without it. On the off in the national I knew the liability on every horse to the penny, every horse was a winner, the worst result being?????????????
You guessed it the winner. Dont push it took out 5k, Piraya took out £754.
maine
have u epos or man set ?
Epos couldnt do without it. On the off in the national I knew the liability on every horse to the penny, every horse was a winner, the worst result being?????????????
You guessed it the winner. Dont push it took out 5k, Piraya took out £754.
just manual.that guy owed me 3 ton on acc from yesterday.today on phone 2 ton 7/2 lose,2ton 4s lose,1ton 12s lose,2ton 6s lose,4ton 7/2 lose what can i do to stop this because this is what is being happening he will get 1 then i owe him.he should give me cheque tomor.are u manual to
It's obvious from those bets he's just chasin his loses. DONT give him another bet till he pays, you have to control him Either way In the end he will do one owing you some money, but if he's lost thousands getting to that point then happy days.
It's obvious from those bets he's just chasin his loses. DONT give him another bet till he pays, you have to control him Either way In the end he will do one owing you some money, but if he's lost thousands getting to that point then happy days.
4.30 folkestone on khee 4 ton 11/4 win.hope that loses then i will get paid.he owes me 18ton then.should give him a limit like 15ton.he has plenty cash and properties.ex copper and crave stone maison.big shot in the maisons too.
Nowt wrong with bets like that, I wish I had him. Diff story if he was takin the 9/2 or 4/1 that was about this mornin but 11/4 is fair enough, good luck. The only prob is you have to win twice, once when the horse loses and then again to get paid. If your not plannin on sellin keep of much of it as poss "out the way"
S Soccer but I dont guarantee everthing just one or two races per meeting. If you want to give em somethin stick a load of freezing cold cans in your fridge give em away for free, I get plenty of taxi drivers who come in for a free cold can, then end up losin a few bob.
Tell him the gambling commission have been in and you need a persons bank details to take credit bets, so your sorry you cant take no more bets on credit that way your blamin some one else and it will stop him, however you are allowed to open a deposit a/c without giving bank details, so if he leaves a few quid with you he can bet on the strength of that. With his last bet its obvious he was just trying to clear himself.
Miane is right, you should never give anybody credit.
If they lose and vanish, which they all do in the end, you lose your money, and a customer.
Even worse if you hedged some of his bets.
If you have phone customers, get them to declare their stake at 10% of what they really want, in case anybody in the shop is a spy and listens for you to repeat bets back over the phone, and only shove that amount through the jack and jill.
If you've got a big chain shop near you, try paying' first past the post' for singles to get afternoon trade, there aren't that many chuckouts these days.
If they lose and vanish, which they all do in the end, you lose your money, and a customer.
Even worse if you hedged some of his bets.
If you have phone customers, get them to declare their stake at 10% of what they really want, in case anybody in the shop is a spy and listens for you to repeat bets back over the phone, and only shove that amount through the jack and jill.
If you've got a big chain shop near you, try paying' first past the post' for singles to get afternoon trade, there aren't that many chuckouts these days.
noluck,
Mason or stonemason - he'll turn you over in the end.
Limit him to deposit only.
btw, I think I remember you on here a couple of years
back asking for advice on starting up.
Did you used to be noluck**
Mason or stonemason - he'll turn you over in the end.
Limit him to deposit only.
btw, I think I remember you on here a couple of years
back asking for advice on starting up.
Did you used to be noluck**
your shops are worth nowt,keep taking the p1ss out of your custom and you will find you have no income
Not a lot , but would you bet with someone you never heard of, how about booking a 2k holiday online with noluck travel?
Its been done before, offer Arsenal to beat city today at 6/4 take fortunes and if they dont win happy days, but if they do, do one to northern Cyprus with the money.
Come to think of it??????
Its been done before, offer Arsenal to beat city today at 6/4 take fortunes and if they dont win happy days, but if they do, do one to northern Cyprus with the money.
Come to think of it??????
Looks like I can stay here with the 100k from the arsenal game, today you can have Chelsea at 1/2, should take about 200k , booked the flights to Northern Cyprus for about 8 o clock tonight just in case, 300 k should see me right for a couple of years, and if Chelsea dont win then its the games on Tues , fk me this is great.
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