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soccertrader
22 Jan 10 17:32
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Can anybody tell me why mortgage advisers are so reluctant to offer interest only mortgages?

My adviser has recently offered me a fixed rate repayment at 3.59% (2 years) Then Variable rate of 4.4%

This is based on a property in the south east costing 250k with an £85k deposit

Would I be better off approaching the bank directly as my adviser really doesn't want me going down the interest only route....is this because he will receive less commision from the lenders???

Regarding an interest only mortgage, I understand that a payment vehicle is now required, ie, an ISA or savings account...can this be started at the same time as the mortgage or does there need to be already savings within the account??


Any help greatly appreciated here!
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Report The Magic Flea January 22, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
because the interest rate is at 0.5% at the moment and Banks do not want to offer them
Report soccertrader January 22, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
From what I understand, a Fixed term Interest Only mortgage would be at a higher interest rate than a standard fixed term repayment??
Report 1st time poster January 22, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
write renting its quicker and is the same thing
Report soccertrader January 22, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
What is Write Renting ?
cheers
Report 1st time poster January 22, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
instead of putting , interest only mortgages , on top of thread put ,renting ,
Report soccertrader January 22, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
mate Im new to all this, would you care to expand on that....I understand that Im not paying anything off the actual debt, but it would mean Im paying less per month and able to put the rest into some sort of investment and potentially have more than enough to pay the mortgage at the end of the term, and would also mean that Im free to move these investments as and when I see fit??
Report statman99 January 22, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
People that get IOs

Gotta love'em
Report soccertrader January 22, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
statman99

Explain mate, Im all ears!
Report statman99 January 22, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
soccertrader,

IO mortgages played a big part of the credit boom that led to the crash. They should be banned, and people that want them should be banned from borrowing.

Hope that helps.
Report 1st time poster January 23, 2010 12:08 PM GMT
soccer trader if mortgage rates are at an all time low and saving rates are at an all time low what investments do youintend to make to pay off the balance,if you have the money now to save in some sort of investment ,surely it makes sense to pay it off a mortgage while rates are low, have had plenty of people try but cant find anyone to explain the advantages of an iom,ony one being you are allowed for the time being at least to borrow money you cant really afford
Report TNTTUCK January 24, 2010 7:36 PM GMT
Speaking as a mortgage broker, we get paid the same commission for interest only mortgages or repayment mortgages, The FSA want everyone on a repayment mortages as they dont understand the need for I/O mortgages for some clients, so your adviser is probably just playing by the rules.
Report MONEY TREE January 25, 2010 9:46 AM GMT
Interest only is fine, we took out 180,000 4 years ago and paid Interest only, did my own investing and in the 4 years have knocked the mortgage down to 130,000 have another 6k to pay off this month and have used some of the money for an extension on the house so its value will of gone up too.

Different people have different ideas so just do what you think is best.
Report chisel January 25, 2010 9:46 AM GMT
Soccertrader

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you taking an Interest Only mortgage if it suits YOU! Dont worry about what others say, as long as you have a plan to repay your loan then no problem. Lenders do not have a problem with YOU choosing Interest Only and nor do the FSA. You know the pros and cons dont you?

I have no problem arranging Interest only loans for my customers. Only recently a young lady that I arranged a £200k mortgage 3 years ago on a purchase price of £240000 came in tio remortgage. She had overpaid her mortgage as she intended to do and now owes £176000.. You telling me that she should not have been allowed an Interest only loan.

If people are going to moan about IO , they need to appreciate that people that take 30-40year mortages on Repayment basis are in the same boat!
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 10:01 AM GMT
if moneytree lays had been backs he could have payed all his off, depends where the young ladys money came from that she used to pay the debt off with,could have been a gift etc,its hardly the right climate for advisors to be telling clients to be making their own investments in shares etc
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 10:04 AM GMT
what would stop the sed lady overpaying on a repayment lady,surely the most common reason for getting an interest onkly deal is because you cant afford to pay the full returns on a loan at this time,we all no there will be exceptions to thisbut to use these examples as a reason for getting a io mortgage would be misleading
Report MONEY TREE January 25, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
very funny plenty of winning bets cheers.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 10:41 AM GMT
chisel as a layman you still havnt explained to me why in the cases you mention ,the people have the cash to pay down there mortgage so why dont they get a repayment in the 1st place,in a different era i could see the sense of graduates taking a punt on thesalary they may expect to be on in 20 years time but even that nowadays is far from a gimmie
Report chisel January 25, 2010 10:57 AM GMT
First Timer

Because that is what she wanted to do!! It is more flexible and she can overpay from bonuses and income. The point is it suited her to do it like this . It has nothing to do with anyone else what she chooses to do! If she decides to have children or loses her job she does not need to find a high mortgage payment.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 11:40 AM GMT
exactly she,s borrowed money in real terms she cant affored to pay back,if i went for a mortgage saying i plan to do no work for 3 years but am hopping to win the lotto or recieve some inheritance i,d be shown the door
Report chisel January 25, 2010 3:10 PM GMT
Poster

She has paid off £24000 in 3 years. That is paying the mortgage off a lot quicker than she would be with a 25 year Repayment mortgage. Typical, someone like you making genereralisations that are simply not true. You obviously know nothing about the mortgage market . What gives you the right to say for certain what someone can afford?
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 4:15 PM GMT
so whats stopping her overpaying on a repayment mortgage
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
what gives you the right to say what someone can afford, wasnt that the mantra in america before the subprime mortgage hit the world
Report MONEY TREE January 25, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
I can afford to pay the repayment mortgage but decided that it was worth taking the io one because I could over pay and use the extra money to generate my own investments in attempt to pay off faster.

so far so good.
Report MONEY TREE January 25, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
so if i can carry on like this i pay it all off in 12 years approx rather than 25, seems simple really.

but each to their own.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
no one has explained why you cant pay off extra on a repayment mortgage
Report MONEY TREE January 25, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
You can but the repayment was around £800 and io £500.

I used the 3300 difference to do my own money making and so far so good.

new deal needed soon so wil lgo for io again and carry on.

Only myself to blame if cant pay it off but not worried yet.
Report chisel January 26, 2010 9:18 AM GMT
Poster

Of course you can overpay any mortgage, but iot suits different customers to pay their mortgage back as it suits them. It works well for money tree and it works well for my customer. It does not work well for everyone.

What I am saying is that you can not say that everyone that has an Interest only mortgage is the same. They can work very , very well for people.

By the way. I suggest you read up a little on pensions. Teh adviser you saw should be able to explain to you in plain English how they work. If he can not do that I suggest you speak to a different adviser. Pensions are not complicated if you speak to the right person .
Report MONEY TREE January 26, 2010 9:29 AM GMT
pensions confuse me!!

not updated mine for 10 years lol

next job on the list :-(

2019 should be ok !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report chisel January 26, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
Sounds good Monbey tree!

Must admit that I aim to pay my mortgage off instead of paying into a pension. If i can get rid of that nasty mortgage sooner rather than later , I may start ferreting away a much bigger nest egg for retirement.
Report crediter February 3, 2010 10:51 AM GMT
nice one chis;money;io great idea for many beats renting;but as you say some people just cant or wont learn.....wished i avoided endownments 25 year ago .....
Report chisel February 4, 2010 9:34 AM GMT
Crediter

Not all endowments are as bad as others, but I think the point is that Insurance companies continued to sell them after their sell by date. The maturity value of policies with companies like Prudential for example and companies like Abbey life and , Countrywide
Report crediter February 5, 2010 12:33 PM GMT
at the time ;81 s.life were top of the end.league..recommended by charcol ......est. mat value 180k....now 28k.......theyre nearer the bottom now............my advice buy any property.
Report overboard February 13, 2010 1:38 AM GMT
Anyone who takes out an interest only mortgage clearly lacks the mental capacity required to enter into a binding contract.
Report crediter February 14, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
not if he owes a fair amount on cards......pays them first then switch to repayment.....so not so silly...lol.
Report MONEY TREE February 14, 2010 3:07 PM GMT
whys that overboard?
Report chisel February 15, 2010 9:02 AM GMT
Money tree

Overboard has not got a clue. He can not understand that Interst Only is ok for SOME people!

I guess he would rather rent!
Report old ace February 15, 2010 12:48 PM GMT
interest only deals every time

build societies will push you toward what is best for them , always take what they dont want you to have - see endowment mortgages , oh the repayment terms are the same and you get a big lump sum at the end for free.
nothing is for free
banks and societies are pure sales oriented and never to be trusted or believed

When the average joe takes out a mortgage its at a time when their personal disposable income is low therefore tailor your repayments to a minimum by being interest only.

Dont be scared by any stories about not being able to pay off your mortgage in 20 years , your mortage is being paid off by inflation , in 20 years the residual sum will be a weeks wages

Anyone not on a IO is a mug
Anyone on a SVR is a mug
If your a mug dont discuss it further with me , just sort your life out
Report Clueless1 February 15, 2010 3:48 PM GMT
agreed IO is fine
Report 56 February 15, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
wise words old ace
Report Fat Al February 15, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
i have paid my mortgage off, i am thinking of buying a bigger property for approx 50k more than the current value. I think an IO mortgage is a giveaway am i missing something ?
Report chisel February 16, 2010 9:54 AM GMT
Old Ace

LOL. Not sure someone that "CHOOSES" IO is a mug but take your point!

I agree that IO is great for a lot of people.Somer people need to take a little more responsibility!

It is amusing that IO borrowers /lenders are blamed for teh credit crisis. The bottom line is that anyone that chose interest only over Repayment would have paid very little off of a mortgage if they had done 25 years plus. In teh grand scheme of things it makes little difference in teh early years , as teh majority of a mortgage payment is interest!
Report chisel February 16, 2010 11:28 AM GMT
Sorry Old Ace. Should read , not everyone that "Chooses Repayment is a mug!!"
Report chisel February 16, 2010 11:29 AM GMT
Oh, and some lenders SVR are 2.5% or lower. Not sue that those people are mugs either!
Report old ace February 16, 2010 12:14 PM GMT
mr chisel

some svr,s are currently lower than a fixed term however svr,s are not fixed which is the point and they can double overnight [ see skipton bs actions recently], personally i would tie in to boe base rates and or fixed term rates and pay a small premium and not be subject to the whims of the lender
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