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By:
Gooseman
When: 09 Nov 09 08:17
ok mate. you know best.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 09 Nov 09 08:22
Mrben
Just who do you think is selling to you all these contracts you are buying and why ?
Just think about it for a minute.
There's always two sides to any trade.
Are they fools for apparently selling when you're buying ?
Goose
Don't even ask Mrben to consider the implications of what the Chinese might do.
If he could reason down this route, he might brown his panties right away.
Mrben
At least consider taking some of your future punts in the form of buying call options. Limit your downside at least at the sacrifice of a part of the upside.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 09 Nov 09 08:26
Btw Mrben, I already live on the beach permanently, both Caribbean and elsewhere, and so that is no incentive to join you in this wild overleveraged currency speculation you're indulging in.
By:
Mrben
When: 09 Nov 09 09:10
oh botty thats great. send me ur address and we can share a pina colada soon.I may be over playing it, but not yet.theres a long way to go yet 92.85 at the time of writing, up 115 pips today.Thats about 22,700$ AUD to me for the day! Real money, real trade.
Botty, do you think theres a chance YOU are overplaying the "dark forces" ?If you live on multiple beach locations you must have mucho dinero? You could be buying an island if you were on the mighty aussie.The train has left the station grab a taxi , head it off anf jump on asap.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 09 Nov 09 11:31
I'm going to stop reading your posts.
Impending train wrecks are not my thing.
Get off at a station soon.
By:
chisel
When: 09 Nov 09 13:15
Dont stop reading YLB!! This thread could be an interesting one.! I am sure you wish Mr Ben good luck though!!
By:
Mrben
When: 10 Nov 09 03:29
just added 3 more contracts at 92.80.Now long 21 contracts. 220$ a pip.
By:
johnnie walker
When: 10 Nov 09 21:19
mr ben i read your post with interest.
to be honest i m not here to discuss wheter the position you have is the right one or not ( incidentally i think it s a good position ).
what i think it s important that you consider is - i think botty pointed it out already - that your knowledge is not superior to anyone else in the market. rates are going higher, but for example do you know what is expected in the next few months? the rates are now at 3.5%, but the december bank bill future is trading at 4.17% ( and the strip is going up till an incredible 6.13% for the june11 contract ). all these rates hikes are already priced in the price of the oz at 93cents. a slower than expected hiking cycle would make the oz vulnarable. especially considering how unlikely is the rba to hike in december - historically a very rare event -.
at the moment you re riding a wave, a massive wave and you r displaying a good bravery to ride it out. but plse make sure your bravery dont become**yness and try to be always disciplined and leave your stops in order to be left with a comfortable and acceptable loss shud the trade not work out.
as a matter of fact why dont you book some of your profits and use these winnings to play the position thru options so that you know whats your downside.
on top i wd suggest you to play aud vs other ccies too if you love the monetary policy of the rba. aud vs nzd is a safer play as the volatility of the cross is much lower. or aud v cad ( cad and nzd are pricing in a much slower hiking cycle ), or whateveer else.
in any case, let it be clear to yourself, you re not playing the strenght of the aud, but the weakeness of the usd.
and that can turn at anytime. without warning.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 10 Nov 09 23:28
Thank God the cavalry has finally arrived.
About time Johnny W.
Mr ben please read and absorb what JW has said above.
You might not, for good reason, want to listen to me, but I urge you to listen to the scotch man.
He is a pro and he does know what he's talking about.
At the very least, lock in some solid profits and get into some sort of option plays. You won't regret it.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 10 Nov 09 23:31
Mrben
We all want you to keep some if not all of your great profits to date.
Come on m8, be sensible and prudent.
You've already made enough to finance any number of great vacations.
Do you seriously think you can, or even want to earn enough to retire forever ?
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Nov 09 08:22
botty and johhnie, thanks for your comments.bUT YOU ARE BOTH MISSING THE POINT. This is the trade of a life time.Its not a trade to run scarred of.Its the life changer.Its staring you straight in the face and you are too brainwashed to belive it.The " dark forces" are rampantly buying and pushing up the price while you two swallow the generally acceepted"book you profits" Thats it be good little boys and do as your told.
This IS going thru the roof, the stars ARE aligned.This IS it.Btw AUD up today about 60 pips at 92.34 at the time of writing.Thats dare I say it, another 13,000$AUD profit today on the 21 contracts.No profit taking, no prisoners and no mercy.Its parity or die!!!
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 11 Nov 09 08:59
Mrben
I wish you all the best.
You'll obviously be a hero or a zero.
Time will tell.
Btw I know the Aussie economy well, and what is happening now with the AUD is totally unrepresentative of the mood in the streets.
Everybody I know in Aussie is totally lacking in confidence of their currency and economy.
Australia is a country that depends on the success and support of others more important than it.
It is a sideshow and will be for a long time to come.
Great place, great people, but not a player on the world stage I'm afraid to say.
If you think otherwise then so be it.
You have had a fortunate lucky run to get this far.
If you blow it all away it will be a pity.
But my money is on you doing exactly that.
You give no impression that you know why or how you lucked into your current fabulous position and that means you wil not understand or know when your run is coming to an end.
Unless you are the next George Soros, you are not going to make an unbelievable profit on one currency trade.
A nice thought, but that's all it is.
Having said all the above, I sincerely wish you all the best.
I fear the worst but hope for the best.
By:
Gooseman
When: 11 Nov 09 09:25
sell you the parity calls.
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Nov 09 10:55
heres an example of why the aussie will continue to rise.The darkest forces lie in the government
U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said on Wednesday he believes strongly in the need to maintain a strong dollar and said the United States was determined to get its budget deficit down.



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"I believe deeply that it's very important to the United States, to the economic health of the United States, that we maintain a strong dollar," Geithner said in a meeting with Japanese reporters at the U.S. embassy.



The dollar's decline has been a source of concern in the export-heavy region, especially since top exporter China keeps its currency's value closely managed against the U.S. dollar and so felt less impact on prices for its exports than other Asian nations that let their currencies float freely.

The dollar index, which measures the dollar's value against a basket of six major currencies, has fallen 7.6 percent this year and hit a 15-month low of 74.889 on Wednesday.

Geithner said the United States was well aware it must work to keep investors' confidence in U.S. economic policymaking.

"We bear a special responsibility for trying to make sure that we are implementing policies in the United States that will sustain confidence ... in investors around the world that as growth recovers and growth strengthens that we're going to bring our fiscal position back to a sustainable balance," he said.

The U.S. budget deficit soared to a record $1.4 trillion in the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30 and is expected to be about the same this fiscal year.




Geithner cited signs of stabilisation in the global economy but said it still needed the stimulus that governments around the world have poured in to foster stronger growth.

"We're at a point now where I think we all recognise that although the world economy is now growing again, you don't yet have all the conditions for a self-sustaining recovery led by the private sector," he said.

"In response to repeated questions about China's policy of closely managing the exchange rate for its yuan currency, Geithner credited China with helping get the global economy out of crisis and welcomed Beijing's commitment to adopt a more flexible currency over time.

"China has an excellent record of delivering on broad policy objectives," Geithner said. But he said a more flexible currency was only part of "a very complicated mix of policy changes" Beijing was attempting, which he said show encouraging signs of boosting domestic demand-led growth in the world's No.3 economy.

just read some of this total bulldust.Geither belives in a strong dollar but he NEEDS a weak dollar.The chinese love a weak dollar because it makes their exports CHEAPER.Whatever these 2 govts tell you the opposite is true.
china" we will consider revaluing the yuan" yeh right. USA - we need a strong dollar" yeh right.Just the opposite is what is actually occurring.But the chinese are turning their economy into internal consumption I hear you saying.yeh right.The fed may raise interest rates sooner rather than later- yeh right.
I'm tell ing you, the US dollar is dust.Bet against it.One day the tide will turn but by then the fortunes will have been made and the islands purchases.
remember to "book you profits" yeh right.
By:
Gooseman
When: 11 Nov 09 11:49
you're an idiot. do you have any idea how much US debt the Chinese hold?
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Nov 09 11:57
yes goose i kno. yu just keep believing it while the US dollar keeps falling. we will see who is the idiot then.
By:
Gooseman
When: 11 Nov 09 11:59
ok mate, fine by me.
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Nov 09 12:07
by the way goose i am up approx 32,000$ AUD since close last friday.I think thats about 13/15,000 pounds. Does that make me an idiot?I'm trying to educate you as to how currencies truly work.If you dont want to participate thats up to you.You just keep watching CNBC and believe them.
By:
Gooseman
When: 11 Nov 09 12:30
P&L today now reads1.4m GBP mate. thanks.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 11 Nov 09 12:45
Goose
I think we may in fact be dealing with a wind up merchant here.
I'm starting to think the whole thing is a fake venture.
A pity in a way, but a relief in another.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 11 Nov 09 18:41
I don't now about a wind up merchant, but he is certainly starting to sound like a carpet salesman.
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Nov 09 23:52
frog goose and botty.I notice from other topics you 3 always have the same negative comments to anyone who says something is going up.Clearly a trio of negative heads.

Just to be sure I started this thread when the aussie was in the 88's.I didnt come in at the back end claiming I had already made 1.4 million.That claim lacks credibility.
And to rub it in to you 3 losers the aussie figures just realeased,unemployment here has dropped, yes thats right dropped.Further rate rises are now certain.
The AUD has popped up to 93.55 at the time of writing.
Gee I'm not an insider,I know nothing,Im a carpetbagger but hey the damn thing keep going up.
Hooray for the dark forces and I hope the the guys who are really trading here are still on.
You three get down to the local pub and start scrounging spent ciggie butts and whinging about how bad things are.
Me, I'll start perusing the retirement locations.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 12 Nov 09 01:48
Mrben
You misinterpret.
I'm not negative at all on what you have achieved.
I'm just saying it always makes sense to lock in a degree of profit, and then take some call option positions and ride this baby all the way to the end on virtually free money.
You'll enjoy it more, get more sleep and probably end up making more money than you will trading a naked long position.
The AUD if and when it does drop might do so fast and furiously and even gap down below any stops you have, or I hope you have.
Just be cautious and don't expect to retire on one excellent currency trade.
Many have gone before you on this road and few have succeeded in the manner you are hoping for and/or anticipating.
As I say I want you to succeed. No skin off my back if you do ( I'm not selling into this upward trend believe me ).
But when the TV media and the popular press and all and sundry start talking about parity or higher, then usually that is a warning signal to start to look for an exit.
That's not negative. That's playing the game right.
But it's up to you what you do of course.
You may prove me wrong, but the point is that you will not thus prove that this advice is fallacious.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 12 Nov 09 01:55
Incidentally if you have read other posts involving me you will know that a certain nameless poster on here thinks the opposite on my attitude.
That is I am in cloud cuckoo land as to the downside realities of the investing world out there.
Can't have it both ways buddy.
Be nice if we could though.
By:
Gooseman
When: 12 Nov 09 05:46
mr ben-my claim has as much credibility as yours. i don't give a sh1t what you think about me to be honest with you, i know how much i'll be getting paid this year thanks. if you're such a hotshot trader you'll know where the market moved big yesterday.

i have no problem with you making money-well done for getting it on but to ignore fundamentals and have a tunnel view is crazy.

article in FT this morning on emerging market currencies i suggest you read.

now if you excuse me i have dog ends and dregs to be on the lookout for.
By:
Gooseman
When: 13 Nov 09 12:08
no post today-market must be down.
By:
Mrben
When: 14 Nov 09 00:55
too busy counting the profits to post goose.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 14 Nov 09 05:25
You mean unrealised profits methinks.
Big difference.
By:
Mrben
When: 15 Nov 09 05:27
im thinking of cashing in botty.There seems little catayst on the horizon other than interest rate rises.Always struggles in the 93's.Im so far in front I;m getting confused.21 contracts means almost 23,000$ per cent move.All time high is in 98's recent high in 95's
Thinking to cash in in the next move into the 93's , then buying big on the dips.Say 30 contracts.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 15 Nov 09 05:31
Good move Mrben.
I'm relieved that you have at last come to your senses.
Of course you know that it will almost certainly go up more now you have decided to cash in.
It's called sod's law, isn't it ?
By:
Mrben
When: 16 Nov 09 00:39
NEWSFLASH !!!! total position cashed in. 93.45. My net result including dips trades is around 130,000$ AUD
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 16 Nov 09 01:02
Party time ?
Which beach and when ?
By:
Mrben
When: 16 Nov 09 08:15
hhahaha I'm going to book into thailand for a month.I'llwait till feb though when all the christmas tourists have gone home.
By:
mr milk
When: 16 Nov 09 09:24
should get plenty of ladyboys for 130large!
well done on the trade btw. followed this thread with interest.
By:
chisel
When: 16 Nov 09 09:37
Mr Ben

Why do I get the feeling you are going to regret listening to YLB??
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 16 Nov 09 09:57
Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 16 Nov 09 10:10
Btw I think it was probably more Johnny W's erudite views that tipped him into getting out of a trade which, whilst very good, was also potentially very dangerous.
I still think he made the right decision given his apparent skills and knowledge.
He lucked into an excellent trade and made excellent profits, whatever the reasons behind it.
What more could he really ask for ?
Let him hope to repeat it again, next time with a larger starting bank.
Could be the start of a great fortune ?
By:
wolsey end
When: 16 Nov 09 11:56
mrben - well done and thanks a lot for the heads up ages ago. its made things a wee bit easier here, i can tell thee. enjoy thailand.

ylb - thanks - u did yr bit, too!
By:
chisel
When: 16 Nov 09 12:19
YLB , yep you are probably right. Sounded like a lot of the investment was from the heart and a little optimistic. Fair play for having the guts to take a profit.. As you know better than most, taking a profit/loss is often the most difficult decision to make!
By:
Gooseman
When: 20 Nov 09 11:09
here she goes
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