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By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 19:48
Plucky Brit Dart is darted out of the tournament
By:
Journeyman
When: 27 May 24 19:48
Half the field backed Linda N (who is very lucky that dart engaged full plucky mode and beat herself)
By:
Journeyman
When: 27 May 24 19:51
I'm glad Erika's match with Sabalenka is tomorrow.
She can at least say she lasted in the French Open for 3 days.
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 19:51
Star dust going well against Busker, think she's the first player in the draw to be born in the 2000's
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 19:52
rain expected up until end of thursday so she might last even longer
By:
Journeyman
When: 27 May 24 19:52
Go Erika! Grin
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 19:52
Hey SaMeBe, want to take the comps back over?
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 19:53
how is the weather so s*** this time of year every year is Paris, first week always cold and rainy, so it feels like
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 19:54
Prediction: Monteiro to launch epic 5 set comeback against Kecmanovic
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:01
If Rafael Nadal skips Wimbledon, does that solidify Wimbledon as the 4th Slam?
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:02

May 27, 2024 -- 7:52PM, edy wrote:


Hey SaMeBe, want to take the comps back over?


only if I can declare Sunday picks valid.

By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:07
Hmpf...
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:07
In terms of prestige, whether you like grass or not, and I don't, it has to be the number 1 slam, French Open second, it's the hardest slam to win on physicality alone, US open slam has the lowest quality play, players all knackered back end of the season and half of them on the beach, Australia is where players are the freshest, 1. Wimbledon, 2. French, 3. Australia, 4. US open

these mug masters trying to be 5th slams with their 2 week events are going to find that top players might start skipping them more and more, it's hard enough reaching a slam in full fitness as it is.
By:
Journeyman
When: 27 May 24 20:11
Indian Wells is okay. It does have that special ambience. The second weeks of the two Spanish 1000s seem to go on forever though.
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:12
From a fitness stand point the two week masters should be easier on the players. It's one more match, but spread over double the days. I think players are primarily grumpy because they have to stay at the tournaments for double as long while receiving about the same or even less payment.

That, plus maybe having to schedule training blocks or off weeks in slots where otherwise they'd receive handsome appearance fees from a smaller tournament.
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:12
You mean Madrid and Rome? Madrid only Spanish masters
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:13
Rybakina had a big moan up about the extended events
By:
Journeyman
When: 27 May 24 20:13
Ah yeah Rome's in Italy. Blush
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:14
Journeyman outed as Andreas Möller.
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:17
There is no definite proof of him actually having had said it and he himself denies it, but the former German international is widely attributed to have said "Milano or Madrid. As long as it's Italy."
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 27 May 24 20:19
Monfils just pressed the off button Laugh
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:20
Needs an intervention from the Skai.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:23
wisewords is gonna be mad at you for making puns about Gael's daughter.
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:32
I'm surprised players are pulling out of R1 of slams, just turn up, limp to the end, and pick up an easy 73000 euros

and the all important 10 ranking points
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:33
Dodin has obviously earned far too much money to turn down 73 grand for a couple of hours work
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:35
They used to, then they got fines, but have seemingly silently got rid of those fines since getting challenged by Tatishvili in court so yeah now players should feel safe about doing this again.
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:36
that's what I was thinking, I would have to be seriously injured to pull out, if you've only got a niggle, or something that you can hide, I don't see why not even true, O'Connell pulled out as well
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:39
Under the "fine era", and I haven't heard this changed, O'Connell would get to keep 50% of his R1 check for withdrawing before his R1 match.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:40
The idea was that players would rather do that then play injured and risking a bigger than 50% fine for showing up in poor condition.
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:41
never knew they kept half the money for withdrawing, well that makes sense if they are carrying a serious knock, what a great life being tennis player
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:47
the 50% rule is still there
https://www.itftennis.com/media/5986/grand-slam-rule-book-2024-f3.pdf
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:49
as are the rules about fines for poor first-round performance. It just hasn't been enforced in nearly 5 years.
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:50
Fine Botic please.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:52
doesn't fit into any of these criteria:

Factors that may be considered by the Referee in making such a determination include,
but are not limited to, the following:
1. the player did not complete the match;
2. the player did not compete in the 3 week period preceding the Grand
Slam Tournament;
3. the player retired from the last tournament he/she played before the Grand
Slam Tournament;
4. the player was using a Protected or Special Ranking for entry;
5. the player received a Code Violation for failure to use Best Effort.


Sad

so far. 1 might still happen. and 5.
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 20:52
German Eurosport has had a loop of *toot* *toot* *toot MNU PCR 2 as its audio track for the Monfils match for a while now. Yesterday they already were completely audioless for a stretch.
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 20:54
Sad
By:
mesmerised
When: 27 May 24 20:55
nearly more money matched in the Tiafoe match than the other 5 live atp matches put together
By:
tobiasr
When: 27 May 24 21:08
If Botic isn't fined for this then they might as well do away with the rules
By:
SamuelMertensBertens
When: 27 May 24 21:12
I haven't been watching Botic, but there have been plenty instances from 2019 and later where players should have been fined for poor effort/condition and haven't. It's not good that they still pretend these rules exist when you have some honest players who rather take 50% rather than hobble through a match.
By:
edy
When: 27 May 24 21:14
With Dodin maybe she would indeed have been fined as she meets the criteria you listed about having had retired in their latest match pre-slam.
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