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Tennis Talk 2023: Vol 3 (Australian Open)
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Kudermetova's sister who Veronika claims her dream is to play in Wimbledon final in 2024. I thought it was optimistic of Veronika to think Russians will be allowed to play Wimbledon 2024.
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Though I think she's crumbling under the Aussie, Aussie, Aussie chants atm anyway, so maybe nothing to worry about for Kostyuk.
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the Kazahks should buy her too!
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Lys takes the 1st set 6-2 !
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There was an article a few weeks ago claiming Wimbledon might change their stance. Albeit I'll believe it when I see it. I also thought the article made zero sense in the thinking it presented. It was Daily Mail I think, but you'd think it was briefed via someone close to Wimbledon. But the theory was Wimbledon were very disappointed by the lack of support they received from rest of tour over banning Russians, and LTA are upset at being fined by WTA and ATP, and because of a lack of a support they might change their stance under pressure to do so.
This thinking kinda makes no sense to me, especially if you're briefing it. How is we expected others to follow suit, but they didn't, and we're unhappy how we've been ostracised, so now we might cave anyway a stance exactly? |
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Polina defo crumbling under the Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
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Fully crumbled now.
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The premise of the article also didn't make sense with what we were led to believe last year, especially what Henman said on TV, who should have good info being on committee, where he said they had no choice in reality, as the government said they wouldn't give the players visas. If that's the truth, then there's not a lot Wimbledon can actually do regardless, and it's not a stance I'd expect to change from the government.
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If it wasn't LTA/Wimbledon's call to begin with (has that been established?), and nothing good came out of it for them, I could see them just go "screw this, we don't wanna have to deal with this hassle again". But then again, if it wasn't their call last year it likely won't be going forward either.
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I posted before I saw your post.
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Yes, and it is a key part of the equation, as I don't expect the government to change one iota if that's the truth. But we don't know for sure. It could have just been an easy blame game line to shift the blame to someone else.
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it will be interesting if they stick with zero points again if the ban stays. Can't see someone like Djokovic, who should have a lot of say, being happy with that. Maybe time for the PTPA to step up
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The thing I've found a bit hard to get my head round is Novak's lack of support for Wimbledon's right to take an independent stance.
I'd have thought having been on the sharp end of a united groupthink agenda he'd have appreciated the value of having an independent voice that could take a different stance when needed. |
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I do think if they're banned again, there will be more uproar from the players this year. As several have already been vocal against it.
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agreed. There should have been last year, but now they have seen the effects of it. Which were pretty obvious from the beginning btw.
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I was surprised how little backlash they actually got from the players, I strongly expected a lawsuit that never came.
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That would have gone on for a very long time, and been a big cloud over all parties.
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good call on Moutet so far.
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But there seems to be some expectation from like Sabalenka's words that they will just be let back, but I really wouldn't count her chickens. As a country politically our stances are likely to get more anti-Russian if anything, there will be uproar for sure in our tabloids if they are allowed to play. Which tbf has been made a bigger thing by banning them last year.
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Sabalenka is definitely Kostyuk's main 'target' at the moment.
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I think with recency bias, the war was fairly new, they let it go last year. This year, I can see big opposition if they try to ban them again.
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The precedent is one reason Djokovic for sure can't get behind it for who mentioned him. Given there's talk of Serbia invading Kosovo, same precedent would see him banned then. Especially as anti-Serbian rhetoric would be easy to come when they're one of the few European countries pro-Russia to begin with.
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love you Jess! thanks
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It also may have come too quickly, like how soon before was this actually announced, how much time did they have to consider a response.
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this Discovery+ doesn't offer much. Only commentary for one match at the moment, the Gauff one?
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I have that on via ES on TV anyway. It doesn't offer much bar much higher quality streams than watching via wherever else.
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It not offering much is why I never actually paid for it anyway! I only have it because since last year BT (and Sky for that matter) have done deals so it's all part of their package now, so as BT subscriber I get Discovery + for "free".
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I think mighty Eva Lys has called the trainer.
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I was promised Laura Robson
And the betting streams which used to have commentary for Aussie Open doesn't seem to have commentary this year  |
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It's a shame Amanda's going to be the first seed out (presumably).
This version of Kostyuk is a grim first round draw for a seed. |
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Lee S
@underarm_ace · 1h Well this is disappointing, that Discovery+ aren't taking any world feed commentary at all. Four matches with their own commentary and none anywhere else. |
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coco said. i don't want to go 3 !
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What's going on with Lys? 5-0 down and 3.0...
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Polina Kudermetova proper crumbled under the Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi chants.
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trainer Kalinskaya.
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Oh is on court now talking, but can't hear anything. I wouldn't have said I noticed anything serious though.
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Yeah, same here. Dare not trade in the market given these delays though
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