Tennis
Tennis Talk 2022: Vol 3 (Australian Open)
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Taking the vaccine is the only way for them to lift the 3 year ban?
Or covid not being an issue in 1-3 years would also do it? Will other countries be influenced by Australia's stance? |
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Alize Cornet @alizecornet
· 2m I know too little to judge the situation. What I know is that Novak is always the first one to stand for the players. But none of us stood for him. Be strong @DjokerNole . |
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The reality is Djokovic won the first case on a procedural technicality, a lot of cases are won like that, in effect it was a screw up how Border Force handled it. That was never going to happen this time, the legal commentators all said they'd chosen legislation that had very little procedure to follow, thus little to screw up anyway, and there's no just way the government could lose twice on procedural mistakes, that's why it probably took them a week to bring their case to ensure any loopholes were shut off.
People are moaning about rule of law on Twitter, but it's not the lawyers who write the law, they are just interpreting what's written, and Australian immigration law is basically written so they can deport anyone they like with ease, hence why they're known for their tough border policies. |
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They can wave the 3 year ban if they wish to, not aware if they have or it's even been discussed yet. I reckon it probably does get waived, of course Novak a) will have to get vaccinated to play next year and b) might never want to come back to Australia again after this regardless.
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It's not that surprising not too many players stood by him. From their pov he's effectively tried to bypass the rules they have all followed. We know many in the locker room were reluctant to get vaccinated, they're hardly going to be thrilled if Djokovic managed to bypass the rules to do so when they themselves abided by them just so they could play.
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I doubt any other countries will be influenced by Australia, whether the world is moving the way towards vaccine mandates is another debate altogether though. Had this debate with Aaron earlier, as I think more are to come, he thinks they will be scrapped.
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People were always going to complain regardless of the outcome. I still blame Tennis Australia for much of this, they wanted him to play so badly.
It was said it could be waived early in the court today. I think he'll want to come back, this would be a **** way to leave Australia for good. He does crave the love of the public after all. But I'm not sure he'll ever get it in Australia after this. |
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Also many players are meant to be upset that the Djokovic drama is overshadowing tennis, and that's all they are asked about. That's meant to be the word of the locker room.
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Everyone has some blame. Tennis Australia clearly screwed up quite badly, ignoring clear warnings this could happen and that catching covid wouldn't be accepted at the border, apparently they were warned in writing of this twice. Tiley is surely going to go as a result of this.
Australia had no need to turn it into a circus, if they want a vaccine mandate they should have just set the rules either get vaccinated unless you have a very good medical reason not to do so, or don't come. More information is needed on what went down with the visa debacle, as visa's are often auto provisionally accepted if you click the right boxes, but you strongly feel Australian government could have stepped in and stopped all this circus weeks ago if they liked. It's ended up basically using Djokovic as a pawn for political gain, in the end they've had to get rid of Djokovic by any means necessary as anything else was too embarrassing. And Djokovic could have just got vaccinated. Is being pretty arrogant thinking he can just bypass these rules basically because of who he is. Looking for any loophole in the book to bypass them, it's just a nonsense. Perhaps Tennis Australia have led him astray, but he should have known he was risking a backlash was it would go down terribly in the public domain (it's still not clear to me because of Djokovic's ways if he's just that out of touch on these matters with the public domain). He's also made a number of total individual blunders. Tied to last point, him making that social media post about he's been let in on medical exemption was so, so stupid, that only drove the backlash, like he was rubbing everyone's face in it. And then of course you have his story. At best he's admitted to a criminal offence that was beyond reckless and stupid for someone in his position. At worst he's flat out lying and it's even more dubious than what he's admitting to. |
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Something I am still suspicious of, because his story simply doesn't add up. It sets the red warning sirens in the mind off on many levels. The dates of everything is extremely convenient. We have the inconsistency of him saying he didn't know he was positive until the 18th, the Serbian government saying he was notified on the evening of the 16th (are we at Sharapova didn't check his emails or texts levels now?). Then that his actions are completely illogical if you believe his story. He attended an interview and photoshoot claiming to know he was covid positive, that's beyond stupid for someone in his position (is he really that naive to not realise that?). And it's then what he didn't do by his own story. We know Djokovic had been in touch with loads of people over 16th-18th December, this idea he felt it ok to say nothing about his testing positive for covid, to make those 100s of people he'd been in contact with aware, which he'd be duty bound to do so would be so stupid that again you think can he possibly be so naive to think this is ok?
And of course a number of these intertwine to increase suspicion. As the warning signs in my head say no-one in his position can be so stupid to act the way he did, the reality is he never was positive for covid, thus why he didn't tell anyone anything, the test was a con to get into AO purposes, and at the time of the con the dates were never considered as they never believed the date of his positive would become public thus thought they could get away with it. |
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And of course you have the element where he always seemed to know he would test positive for covid from November, which again only increases suspicion of a conspiracy.
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Well said Alize Cornet.
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Angie showed herself with a boyfriend for like the first time ever.
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Clay court magician Maja Chwalinska announced her comeback to the big stage with a W25 hard court win in Monastir.
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Wonder if that will be end of it all. Or that him possibly falsifying his records will continue to be a story. Doing so can lead to a 3 year ban according to ATP rules. I would think ATP would be happy to just let that go away, but if media keeps poking and find more on this, there might be pressure on the ATP to do something.
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https://www.instagram.com/stories/alizelim/2752336689427366002/
Classic Mats |
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Sloane still doing marriage stuff on Instagram.
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Laura Siegemund hopes to start playing tournaments again in February.
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and she will release a book in March
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Maddison Inglis likes Tofu
https://www.instagram.com/stories/daria_sav/2752328631264398880/ Jasmine Paolini also likes Tofu https://www.instagram.com/stories/daria_sav/2752334854395152843/ As do Kaylah McPhee https://www.instagram.com/stories/daria_sav/2752335402162968687/ and Aslan Karatsev https://www.instagram.com/stories/daria_sav/2752349534132101858/ |
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n88uk • January 16, 2022 8:06 AM GMT
Something I am still suspicious of, because his story simply doesn't add up. It sets the red warning sirens in the mind off on many levels. The dates of everything is extremely convenient. We have the inconsistency of him saying he didn't know he was positive until the 18th, the Serbian government saying he was notified on the evening of the 16th (are we at Sharapova didn't check his emails or texts levels now?). Then that his actions are completely illogical if you believe his story. He attended an interview and photoshoot claiming to know he was covid positive, that's beyond stupid for someone in his position (is he really that naive to not realise that?). And it's then what he didn't do by his own story. We know Djokovic had been in touch with loads of people over 16th-18th December, this idea he felt it ok to say nothing about his testing positive for covid, to make those 100s of people he'd been in contact with aware, which he'd be duty bound to do so would be so stupid that again you think can he possibly be so naive to think this is ok? And of course a number of these intertwine to increase suspicion. As the warning signs in my head say no-one in his position can be so stupid to act the way he did, the reality is he never was positive for covid, thus why he didn't tell anyone anything, the test was a con to get into AO purposes, and at the time of the con the dates were never considered as they never believed the date of his positive would become public thus thought they could get away with it. The man is on record saying you can change the molecular make up of poisonous food and polluted water into the healthiest, most nutritious foodstuff because they react to your positive thoughts and prayers. His wife was all "5G????? Just asking questions!!!!" a few months into the pandemic. |
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The future of Swedish tennis, C.W. Hennemann won the W25 Bath, breaking the hearts of four Britons on her way to the title. Particularly that of Freya Christie in a 2h51min long semifinal yesterday in which Christie had already led by a set and a break.
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Madison Brengle is happy again after being so mad the other day
 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJNBdMGXIAEFx12?format=jpg&name=large |
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Betfair mugging as usual and not putting up streams for any of the women's R1 matches
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Nice. Another WTA book to read.
Keep 'em coming.  (Including WTA players turned commentators!) |
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yeah. this is what they told me. Then I didn't check because I was busy with Sydney and Adelaide, but I did notice they offered QR# for the men's but not the women.
Betfair Help @BetfairCS · Jan 11 Replying to @Carambasson Thanks for flagging the issue! Our team got back advising that the streams for ATP Adelaide 2 will start displaying later tonight due to a slight delay/technicality while we will only offer streams of the Main Draw matches at the Australian Open, not the qualifiers. - Wayne slight delay/technicality = we **** up as usual with Betradar Streams. |
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Rain?
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Just one 365 sb ramping I think
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Good trolling from ES to have Annabel Croft on to start proceedings.
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was she mad? |
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I take it she's not IN Australia?
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Can anyone stop Carlos the GOAT here?
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