Tennis Talk 2020: Vol 15 (Hamburg, Strasbourg)

Oh right, it's run by Austrians these days. That explains everything.

Sep 25, 2020 -- 7:55PM, edy wrote:

What kinda eejit planned Hamburg so that it has a Sunday finish?

Does seem absolute muggery. Especially as apparently these players have to quarantine in Paris for 24 hours so aren't allowed on RG site until Tuesday. Ridiculous scheduling though.

#585 • 26 m ago
Updates: 80k Poitiers cancelled. Nothing much now above 25k besides Ostrava and small pro circuit in USA. Hopefully Linz is moved like a week before Limoges so we can get short indoor swing for Europe.

POST RG SCHEDULE:

12 Oct:
25k Cherbourg en Cotentin, France (indoor hard)

19 Oct:
WTA PREMIER Ostrava, Czechia (indoor hard)
80k Macon, USA (outdoor hard)
25k Reims, France (indoor hard)

26 Oct:
80k Tyler, USA (outdoor hard)
25k Istanbul, Turkey (indoor hard)

02 Nov:
100k Charleston, USA (outdoor clay)

09 Nov:
25k Minsk, Belarus (indoor hard)

16 Nov:
25k Saint Etienne, France (indoor hard)
25k Las Palmas da Gran Canaria, Spain (outdoor clay)

14 Dec:
WTA125 Limoges, France (indoor hard)

TBD:
WTA Linz, Austria (indoor hard)
WTA Seoul, Korea (outdoor hard)

dire

The cutoff for Ostrava lol is #24, pretty sure that's the highest cutoff I have ever seen, so players defo want to play.

That actually doesn't help the lower ranked players who probs need to play even more though. People like Brady are in qualifying for Ostrava!

This the on court outfit needed for RG this year:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei1NUsfXgAA1wX5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

#24? Does it have such a small field as a Premier?

It probs has Premiers top 2 seed bye things, another stupid thing in these times.

The cutoff to #24 is 18 players so dunno the make up of the rest exactly, dunno if it's expanded qualifying or something. Obv some wildcards too, Muchova has one already but might get in automatically given ranked #26 and bound to be some withdrawals.

It's a 32 player main draw

The entry list consists of every single player ranked from #11-#24.

So who exactly are the 14 players not direct entry then? What's the make up. I assume that includes 2 top 20 WC's that won't get used for starters which means Muchova defo in regardless of WC.

Good! Muchova can swag serve indoors.

Will be Vika's 3rd title of the year after Cincy and RG.

First time I remember watching Vika was coincidentally indoors.

Made me curse against Sharapova for losing against some 18-year old nobody in Moscow.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 10:02AM, edy wrote:

#585 • 26 m agoUpdates: 80k Poitiers cancelled. Nothing much now above 25k besides Ostrava and small pro circuit in USA. Hopefully Linz is moved like a week before Limoges so we can get short indoor swing for Europe.POST RG SCHEDULE:12 Oct:25k Cherbourg en Cotentin, France (indoor hard)19 Oct:WTA PREMIER Ostrava, Czechia (indoor hard)80k Macon, USA (outdoor hard)25k Reims, France (indoor hard)26 Oct:80k Tyler, USA (outdoor hard)25k Istanbul, Turkey (indoor hard)02 Nov:100k Charleston, USA (outdoor clay)09 Nov:25k Minsk, Belarus (indoor hard)16 Nov:25k Saint Etienne, France (indoor hard)25k Las Palmas da Gran Canaria, Spain (outdoor clay)14 Dec:WTA125 Limoges, France (indoor hard)TBD:WTA Linz, Austria (indoor hard)WTA Seoul, Korea (outdoor hard)

A shame no-one besides Ostrava could step up, when quite a few cities/federations did for ATP.

...shows the value of the respective products...

ATP has managed to put together a somewhat normal, respectable calendar post-RG.

WTA has one event in what's one and a half months up to the normal finish of the season.

Japan should step up and create a month worth of tournaments.

combination of that and consequences of putting all their eggs in the China basket?

yes

though the European tournaments also got cancelled. Moscow, St. Petersburg, Luxembourg and likely to be cancelled Linz

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:32AM, edy wrote:

Japan should step up and create a month worth of tournaments.

yeah, the fans could bring their lil noice button gimmicks to cheer (and boo) since they are not allowed to make noice with their months.

I think it will have to do with indoor tournaments being (a lot) more expensive to stage than outdoor tournaments.

Or at least I would expect them to be more expensive to stage.

surprised this hasn't been discussed more. Don't know about TF, but I haven't really seen anything on this on twitter.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:36AM, edy wrote:

I think it will have to do with indoor tournaments being (a lot) more expensive to stage than outdoor tournaments.

New Zealand should step up then.
Oh wait.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:37AM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

surprised this hasn't been discussed more. Don't know about TF, but I haven't really seen anything on this on twitter.

What specifically? Noise button gimmicks because they are not allowed to make noise with their mouths?

Sorry that I need to ask, but...did you make all those spelling errors on purpose or has your spelling really gone to levels worse than that of ww?

Get it together, man! You can't allow your spelling to consistently be worse than wisewords'.

Isn't the WTA also mugs for not getting this sorted, even if it would cost them some monies? The way it's going down, it makes women's tennis look so inferior by having their season fall apart like this, no Year End championships etc.

the WTA tour being in shambles.
Come on, I always struggle with noise/noice because there was famous music group in Sweden spelled with c once. And months, well I have no excuse for that

I think no YEC is ok with there having been like 4 and a half months of play instead of 10.

and the British love their s's so I tend to go with a c or z when I'm unsure to not come across as a Brit.

Not being able to schedule any normal events is the really bad thing.

The ATP not only has a normal ATP event calendar, they also have two challenger events scheduled every week up to the end of october.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:48AM, edy wrote:

Not being able to schedule any normal events is the really bad thing.

There are two aspects to this. Financially the top players will be alright even with no YEC, whereas for the lower ranked players not having a proper regular tour will hit them harder. Why I mentioned YEC is because it is a showcase event for the WTA and not having one is likely to garner more publicity for them, whereas media won't really care if Linz is being played or not. But all of it is making WTA look anything but strong.

yeah, the fans could bring their lil noice button gimmicks to cheer (and boo) since they are not allowed to make noice with their months.

Min V Grammatikopoulou
Has there ever been a match-up where one player has such a much longer last name than the other?

Yes, when Andrianjafitrimo played Ma.

Sep 25, 2020 -- 12:54PM, nofx wrote:

hopefully there's many LL spots. so Nicu is in to wreak havoc on someone we don't like

Collins!

Rublev needs to learn how to serve.

https://twitter.com/SofiaShapatava/status/1309829490453995520

it's about the RG balls for those whose wondering why I'm posting a tweet of some ITF randomer.

Rafa doesn't like these balls. Can't be good for Djoko either with his shoulder history.

I also yesterday read about Thiem having said that the new Wilson balls get terribly soggy and heavy. Didn't know how serious he was because it came immediately after he said something along the lines of "The old Babolat balls were perfect, same as my racquet brand".

Thiem always shilling

...but I guess there is something to it with other players saying similar things (though Nadal also uses Babolat racquet, but Shapatava seems to use Yonex)

Can't be easy to play with those heavy balls using a badminton racquet

Sep 26, 2020 -- 1:30PM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

Thiem always shilling

Don't know if you read it, but during qualies they gave Andrey Kuznetsov a sleeve for his can of a well known softdrink. I hope they do the same to make Thiem hide his cans of a sugary energy drink.

MTO Ruud

shoulder/biceps/elbow...something

Hamburg using the Wilson balls too?

Surprisingly, they don't! They use Dunlop.

If even Dunlop wreaks havoc on Ruud's arm, he shouldn't even think about traveling to Paris.

the particular brand drink Thiem is shilling makes ur breath smell like barf

fyi

so that's what he smells like when talking to people is what Im saying

Immediately make it smell like barf or after a while because all your teeth are rotting away from it?

maybe that too but yeah just drinking it. goes in tasting like liquid gomballs, breath out barf odour

it's weird stuff

thanks Ruud for completing the match Would have been annoying to lose €1,900 on a €5 profit arb.

Svitolina undefeated since her launch of Svitfit.

i can post

david halton is in for it now - mr nazi....
- taking me to live in germany because of the nazi symbol with the future shape of that penguin nose being in the nazi symbol in 1-99-3 - for 13 mockery since i wasn't going to get to 13 without that big penguin nose
- i was 6 in 93 for 3 6's - 666
- 93 was 7 years before 2000 - a 7 is a nose upside down
and of course ive seen daves reptilian claws and considering all the copying from the news and films - before i was even born then this evidence surrounding this sick 1993 pre-mockery of that penguin nightmare that was to come for me is obvious, its blatant - blatant pre-mockery of my future penguin nightmare by my own ''family''
absolutely vile and sick and obviously confusing as to what the hell is going on

i thought those hypocrites on facebook were bad but holy **** - dave paddy and meghan have got to be the most disgusting evil slime to ever walk the earth

and of course also ive seen the 1985 photos of dave pre-mocking the penguin nightmare to come for me before i was even born - ive seen the photos - the symbolism in the photos couldnt be any more blatant - that thin red metal shape of the penguin nose transitioning into the current shape since i cut that penguin nose off, the time photos with the big 12:35 - time - tmic, copying my pose  - hand on hip

what kind of a sick evil piece of **** do have to be to even think any of this up and to be a willing participant in any of this

well at least i now have confirmation that that nose was indeed pre-planned for me and was intentionally done to me

the concern here would be the deeper meaning surrounding all of this because i couldnt care less about dave himself who was never anything other than a jealous retard but who was dave taking his orders from? the people who run this earth - the reptilians so it was the reptilians who did this to me, reptilian jealousy? reptilian retardation? - looks like it

^Wrong thread Muppet.

this is the right thread to post this in you idiot - this is where ive been posting in for years

I don't remember ever having seen your name.

edy do you think dave was an evil coward nazi piece of ****?

edy talk

Wrong thread, muppet!

whats your problem edy huh why arent you supporting me? you should be supporting me 100%

do you agree that dave was a disgusting nazi coward?

we all know that thats exactly what he was

and now i know the truth

and i'll tell you what as well edy i will always remember this moment - the moment you didnt support me

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:14AM, edy wrote:

First time I remember watching Vika was coincidentally indoors.Made me curse against Sharapova for losing against some 18-year old nobody in Moscow.

You were a hater at an early age then.

Sharapova grew on me later after that initial hatred.

n88 dont you start trying to turn this back into a tennis thread not after everything ive found out and have been posting about

and kournikova well what can you say about pathetic jealous kournikova so so desperately trying rub everythin into me but kournikova is a disgusting transgender and has no business whatsoever trying to mock my looks

No transphobia please.

Who are you, J.K. Rowling?

no transphobia if the person is nice or at least not desperately tring to rub in dave smashing my face in and putting that penguin nose on me

everyone knows kournikova is an evil online bully who shouldn't get away with her evil intimidation towards me

Sep 26, 2020 -- 3:49PM, n88uk wrote:

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:14AM, edy wrote:First time I remember watching Vika was coincidentally indoors.Made me curse against Sharapova for losing against some 18-year old nobody in Moscow.You were a hater at an early age then.

My earliest recollection of Vika is losing 1-6, 1-6 against Oprandi 2007 and being a suspected fixer. A reputation that stayed with her until at least 2010.

I'm convinced she played quite a few matches with no intention of winning and someone (*cough* coach *cough*) taking advantage of his knowledge.

is it my fault if dave smashed my face in in 2001 when i was 14 and couldnt do anything about it? and is it my fault if illuminati targeted me and put a penguin nose on me? of course not so what exactly is transman kournikova trying to mock exactly?

Sep 26, 2020 -- 4:06PM, edy wrote:

I'm convinced she played quite a few matches with no intention of winning and someone (*cough* coach *cough*) taking advantage of his knowledge.

are we talking pre 2011 or 2017-summer of 2020?

pre 2011

MTO Stefanos

edy i'm going to give you one more chance to redeem yourself by supporting me so go ahead now do the right thing edy and write a few lines showing your support

MTO Garin

knee