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TGMTEL
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I've decided to come up with a little competition where we try to pick the future stars of tennis. This one is for WTA, there is also another thread for ATP. Despite the wall of text it's pretty straightforward.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS (selection process):
* You get two picks per year and you can make these whenever you like in 2019. At the beginning of 2020 (we will go by UKT), you get another two picks (you can make these picks whenever you like during the year), another two for 2021 etc. After a few years you will have hopefully built up quite the stable.
* You can pick any player born 2002 or later with the exception of Coco Gauff since everyone has already predicted her to be the next big thing.
* You can make your two picks at the same time or one at a time.
* If another contestant has already picked a player, no-one else can pick this player.
* You can not change picks.
* You can not save picks to the next year.
* Born 2002 or later will always apply so if there's some late bloomer born in 2002 that is developing in x amount of years from now, you can still choose them at the time regardless of age.
There's no deadline for this, you can join in whenever you like.


BUT HOW DO WE GET POINTS?
Here's how the scoring works. Points will be awarded for ranking success and title success.
Ranking: If your player go on to become a top 20 player, you earn 1 point. If your player becomes a top 10 player, you earn another 1 pt (so 2 pts), if your player becomes top 5 you earn another 1 pt (so 3 pts) and if your player goes on to become world number one you earn another 1 pt (so 4 pts).
Titles: If your player wins a main draw tour title, you earn 1 pt.
If your player reaches a Grand Slam final, you earn 1.5 pts. If your player wins a Grand Slam, you earn another 1 pt (so 2.5 pts). If your player wins three or more Grand Slams, you earn another 1,5 points (so 4 pts).
This means the total number of points won for a pick can be 9 points, 4 from ranking success and 5 from title success. You can not get points for things that have already happened. (So let's say you pick some late bloomer who just won his/her first main tour title, you will not get a point for that, but will get points for whatever achievements your player accomplishes later).


I will try to keep the thread updated with picks and scores so it's easy to know which players have already been picked. First contestant to 15 points wins the competition.
Good luck. You can make pick(s) for 2019 now if you want or you can scout and wait til later. Just do them before the year is over. Make the picks in this thread. If you have questions, just ask here.
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Report wisewords January 4, 2022 3:28 AM GMT
I officially select Taylah Preston
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 7, 2022 2:17 AM GMT
Leylah made Top 20.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 4,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.

With more and more and players getting results, I might miss something, so while I will try to add points as they happen, keep track of your players and let me know if I missed anything.
Report n88uk March 19, 2022 11:50 AM GMT
Petra Marcinko
Report edy March 19, 2022 4:51 PM GMT
Fantastic flag.
Report Journeyman March 19, 2022 7:21 PM GMT

Tennis Talk 2021: Vol 12 (Madrid, Estoril, Munich)
By edy on 29 Apr 21 12:48
btw., SaMeBe...flag Petra Marcinko!

Tennis Talk 2022: Vol 3 (Australian Open)
By edy on 29 Jan 22 07:56
Hey SaMeBe, flag Petra Marcinko. She just won the AO juniors and already turned heads on the ITF tour last season (beat Nara in her very first match as a pro)


It's testament to Edy's sphinxlike activity around flag-selling that she lasted this long Grin

This sadistically conceived format still has years to run but we might just look back on today as one of the key twists in the matrix
Report SamuelMertensBertens April 17, 2022 10:17 AM BST
Mirra Andreeva
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 11, 2022 12:37 AM BST
Emma made Top 10.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 5,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 28, 2022 3:27 PM BST
Lucie Havlickova
Report Journeyman September 18, 2022 5:21 PM BST
Wd. Even further behind I go. Thanks to Diane Parry for mugging in Slovenia.

Good to see some proper action on here though, really since last September.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 18, 2022 5:21 PM BST
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 18, 2022 6:19 PM BST
There should be more points soon from the likes of Zheng, Kostyuk and Noskova. Will be interesting to see what Brenda can do on the big tour. Cleaning up at w25's at the moment.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 18, 2022 7:44 PM BST
beep
Report LoyalHoncho September 22, 2022 5:49 PM BST
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Report edy January 1, 2023 12:00 AM GMT
2023 picks:

Renata Jamrichova
Julia Stusek
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 1, 2023 12:00 AM GMT
Barbora Palicova
Report Journeyman January 1, 2023 3:21 AM GMT
V.Mboko
K.Dmitruk
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 2, 2023 6:21 AM GMT
Selected players as of January 2, 2023
Clara Tauson
Daria Lopatetska
Polina Kudermetova
Whitney Osuigwe
Marta Kostyuk
Michaela Laki
Leylah Fernandez
Linda Fruhvirtova
Daria Snigur
Joelle Lilly Sophie Steur
Brenda Fruhvirtova
Noma Noha Akugue
Katrina Scott
Alex Eala
Qinwen Zheng
Olivia Gadecki
Emma Raducanu
Ane Mintegi del Olmo
Sara Bejlek
Diane Parry
Linda Noskova
Victoria Jiménez Kasintseva
Erika Andreeva
Robin Montgomery
Nikola Bartunkova
Ksenia Efremova
Taylah Preston
Petra Marcinko
Mirra Andreeva
Lucie Havlickova
Renata Jamrichova
Julia Stusek
Barbora Palicova
Victoria Mboko
Kristina Dmitruk
Report Journeyman January 15, 2023 12:46 PM GMT
I have a query that is probably worth bringing up now.
It's to do with clarifying the 'can't get points for things that hvae already happened' rule.

Firstly, let say there is an unpicked player that meets criteria, is in form and has qualified for a big event.
The obvious example here is Séléna Janicijevic who has just gone through three decent players in qualies for the loss of one set.
Let's say she goes on a run, gets to Week 2 of the AO and then somebody flags her.

Can they get points from an event that is already underway when she is picked?
(This would give the picker a significant edge imo as there is a possible 3.5 points for winning a slam
and whereas for example when you picked Emma after Wimbledon she then had to win ten games to win a slam later that year, a player could potentially be picked with three or less matches left to play)

Secondly, lets say someone picks a player after they have done something that would have been awarded points.
can they then get points from the player doing the same thing again? eg Let's say you had picked Linda after she won the Chennai Open.
Would you still be able to get points from her doing that 'thing that's already happened' again, ie if she won another 250 or higher?

Just feel it's probably worth clarifying this one rule before one of these situations actually arise.
By and large the rules have been effective, clear and covered most bases so you structured this well.
You also set what seems like a sensible points target (although the way the womens' comp is going, one or more of us may have expired by the time the comp ends Grin )
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 15, 2023 12:55 PM GMT
Firstly, let say there is an unpicked player that meets criteria, is in form and has qualified for a big event.
The obvious example here is Séléna Janicijevic who has just gone through three decent players in qualies for the loss of one set.
Let's say she goes on a run, gets to Week 2 of the AO and then somebody flags her.

Can they get points from an event that is already underway when she is picked?


YES

Secondly, lets say someone picks a player after they have done something that would have been awarded points.
can they then get points from the player doing the same thing again? eg Let's say you had picked Linda after she won the Chennai Open.
Would you still be able to get points from her doing that 'thing that's already happened' again, ie if she won another 250 or higher?


NO, cause her winning a title has already happened.
Report Journeyman January 15, 2023 1:00 PM GMT
Ok thanks that's clear.
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 15, 2023 1:01 PM GMT
You also set what seems like a sensible points target (although the way the womens' comp is going, one or more of us may have expired by the time the comp ends Grin )


I'm convinced there will be points distributed soon. With the likes of Zheng, Noskova and Kostyuk it's only a matter of time. Then there are some others looking to break through soon and with the older guard being phased out over the years and new players getting picked I every year I am not too worried about a stalemate here. Unlike with the maiden Slam winner comps ... Scared
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 15, 2023 1:02 PM GMT
If Zheng was a vulture she would have already won 250's but that is not her strategy.
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 15, 2023 1:06 PM GMT
There should be some Slam winners in our list above or have collectively done a really poor job.
Report Journeyman January 15, 2023 1:15 PM GMT
I do think most of these players will achieve their most meaningful successes between 21 and 27 years old anyway.
I wasn't at all bothered Noskova didn't win her 500 final because it's inevitable she'll picks up main tour titles and there's only  point for that anyway.
The ranking surge and the experience are much more important at this stage.

VJK has experienced so much..  a junior slam winning year, then a 'buzz' year, then a sort of consolidation year and now a new year and she's still only 17.
They're all still so young and the headline grabbing teenage slam finals don't come along very often.
Report Journeyman February 8, 2023 2:56 PM GMT
I officially give up Diane Parry.

This is simply a personal choice and nothing to do with the rules as set by Caramba.
I would just prefer to play with picks that have not yet played on the main tour.
Report wisewords February 8, 2023 3:06 PM GMT
Sofia Costoulas
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 8, 2023 3:55 PM GMT
Journeyman going into warfare in 2023 with sticks and stones Cry
Report wisewords February 8, 2023 4:07 PM GMT
I officially select Sofia Costoulas.
Report SamuelMertensBertens March 5, 2023 9:42 PM GMT
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
edy 1 pt (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.
Report wisewords March 5, 2023 11:34 PM GMT
edy making moves
Report edy March 6, 2023 12:22 PM GMT
Go edy!
Report wisewords March 19, 2023 4:14 PM GMT
I officially select Priska Madelyn Nugroho
Report edy March 20, 2023 9:01 PM GMT
I can't believe you fell for that one.
Report wisewords March 20, 2023 9:47 PM GMT
I can't believe you
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 16, 2023 8:48 PM BST
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) edy 2 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, Qinwen Zheng 1 pt for making top 20)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens June 1, 2023 6:03 PM BST
edy • August 1, 2019 6:31 PM BST
Danilovic, Iga
Report•Quote•Block Useredy • August 1, 2019 6:32 PM BST
damn, dem bishes be older than I thought.


unlucky with my age rules there. Danilovic having good results lately.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 23, 2023 6:17 PM BST
I thought about vulturing Timofeeva to get a point today, but decided against it. But she would have been fair game until she won the match point today and it would have meant a free point for whoever had picked her.
Anyway, you can still pick her, but just not get any points for her first title since that has now already happened.

Edy with some chances at points tonight with both Zheng and Michelsen (ATP) going for their first titles tonight.
Report edy July 24, 2023 7:45 AM BST
I'm coming for Journeyman's and your wigs.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 24, 2023 11:13 AM BST
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) edy 3 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, Qinwen Zheng, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for winning her first title)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.
Report wisewords July 24, 2023 3:54 PM BST
edy making more moves
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 24, 2023 5:50 PM BST
I'm just 3 Mirra Slams from winning though. She has a good chance to get her 1st point today.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 24, 2023 5:51 PM BST
*this week
Report wisewords July 24, 2023 5:59 PM BST
yeah. you've already won the whole thing unless Queenwen beats Mirra to the slams
Report wisewords July 30, 2023 1:07 AM BST
I officially select Clervie Ngounoue, mmmkay? she just beat Anna Blinkanditsova at WTA Washington
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 30, 2023 1:19 AM BST
you've already made two picks this year,
wisewords • February 8, 2023 4:07 PM GMT
I officially select Sofia Costoulas.
wisewords • March 19, 2023 4:14 PM GMT
I officially select Priska Madelyn Nugroho


But if no-one else picks her for the rest of the year, she's pickable for you in 2024.
Report wisewords July 30, 2023 2:17 AM BST
but edy tricked me into picking Priska?
Report wisewords July 30, 2023 2:19 AM BST
I unofficially select Clervie Ngounoue because edy is a bleep bleep bleep!
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 30, 2023 2:24 AM BST

Jul 30, 2023 -- 2:17AM, wisewords wrote:


but edy tricked me into picking Priska?


that was very nasty behavior from edy the bleep bleep bleep indeed, but there's nothing in the rules against doing dirty tricks. Everybody is responsible for the picks they make.

Report edy July 30, 2023 10:34 AM BST
I didn't do anything other than

By edy on 19 Mar 23 16:25
Hey SaMeBe, flag Priska!


Don't blame me if you take that as reason to pick her. When I said

By edy on 21 Mar 23 21:15
I still can't believe that you, wisewords, flagged Priska instead of the supertalented supertalent [Clervie] that is still avaiable.


you wrote

By wisewords on 21 Mar 23 21:17
I don't do flag research, I just do silly picks and stuff


so it's really all on you.
Report wisewords July 30, 2023 10:04 PM BST
I didn't write "I get tricked into making picks and stuff"
Report wisewords July 30, 2023 10:04 PM BST
you're such a bleep bleep bleep!!!!
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 30, 2023 10:57 PM BST
I've also been a victim of this, but in reverse.
He kept spamming me about Marcinko, who I think has a bright future now, but at the time I thought he was just trying to trick me into picking some no-hoper so I ignored him and then eventually someone else picked her.
Report edy July 31, 2023 7:00 AM BST
Happy
Report wisewords July 31, 2023 8:12 AM BST
I officially unselect Priska Madelyn Nugroho.
Report wisewords July 31, 2023 8:13 AM BST
I officially select Clervie Ngounoue.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 31, 2023 10:45 AM BST
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Report SamuelMertensBertens July 31, 2023 10:46 AM BST
Cry
what a flop this phorum is for ascii art!
Report wisewords July 31, 2023 12:28 PM BST
I think you should ratify my swap. it will teach edy a valuable life lesson
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 31, 2023 1:18 PM BST
edy actually taught you a valuable life lesson. I don't think you will make this mistake again for the next edition of this. Which will start as soon as Mirra has won the first 3 of her 25 Slams.
Report edy July 31, 2023 4:59 PM BST
Will previous picks be re-selectable in the next edition and will they be free for all or will previous owner have initial rights?
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 31, 2023 7:38 PM BST
Players born after a certain year will be. Free for all, sp no initial rights. So let's say Mirra has won her 2 first Slams and is cruising towards her 3rd it might be in your best interest to hold back on making your pick for this edition and keep that secret for yourself for vol 2. I will also most likely set a date for when vol 2 starts and not do like I did with this one where the first people who saw the thread had an advantage.
Report wisewords July 31, 2023 11:35 PM BST
can't wait until Clervie wins multiple slams before Mirra does and the sweet taste of victory!
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 1, 2023 12:12 AM BST
for that to happen you need:
* no-one else to pick her for the rest of 2023
* be the first to pick her in 2024
* to also get 6 pts from Priska Madelyn Nugroho and your other players
Report Journeyman August 6, 2023 7:39 PM BST
My assessment is there's at least a 25-30 perecent chance the Prague final doesn't get played tomorrow.
Be ready to make a ruling in that scenario. Would I get half a point for Noskova?
I mean I've got edy breathing down my nech here (and he'd be standing on my head if not for Rus)
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 6, 2023 8:03 PM BST
I absolutely despise cancelled finals, but I can not give a full point when a title hasn't been won.
Gut instinct is you get half a point for Noskova should this happen, and then you get the other half point should she win a title later.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Report Journeyman August 6, 2023 8:14 PM BST
Yeah I can see the sense in that.
Oh well we'll see, hopefully the weather gods relent!
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 30, 2023 5:44 AM BST
I've now done the same for the WTA picks as I did with the ATP ones.

Team arrong
Clara Tauson 1pt Current ranking 76
Daria Lopatetska Current ranking 717

Team nofx
Polina Kudermetova Current ranking 741

Team edy
Whitney Osuigwe Current ranking 376
Marta Kostyuk 1 pts Current ranking 45
Joelle Lilly Sophie Steur Current ranking 622
Noma Noha Akugue Current ranking 163
Alex Eala Current ranking 190
Qinwen Zheng 2 pts Current ranking 23
Nikola Bartunkova Current ranking 340
Ksenia Efremova Current ranking outside top 1000
Renata Jamrichova Current ranking 646
Julia Stusek Current ranking 753

Team Journeyman
Michaela Laki Current ranking 514
Leylah Fernandez 3.5 pts Current ranking 60
Diane Parry Current ranking 99
Linda Noskova Current ranking 44
Erika Andreeva Current ranking 172
Robin Montgomery Current ranking 159
Victoria Mboko Current ranking 394
Kristina Dmitruk Current ranking 276

Team SamuelMertensBertens
Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt Current ranking 117
Daria Snigur Current ranking 158
Brenda Fruhvirtova Current ranking 135
Katrina Scott Current ranking 309
Olivia Gadecki Current ranking 131
Emma Raducanu 5.5 pts Current ranking 277
Mirra Andreeva Current ranking 62
Lucie Havlickova Current ranking 209
Barbora Palicova Current ranking 281

Team n88
Ane Mintegi del Olmo Current ranking outside top 1000
Sara Bejlek Current ranking 202
Petra Marcinko Current ranking 143

Team wisewords
Victoria Jiménez Kasintseva Current ranking 246
Taylah Preston Current ranking 399
Sofia Costoulas Current ranking 293
Priska Madelyn Nugroho Current ranking 275
Report Journeyman September 30, 2023 6:45 PM BST
I've already got my hipster 2024 picks ready for New Year!
On a sidenote I hope that all the shennanigans with the Mastermind hasn't affected Efremova/Laki's development.
Report Journeyman September 30, 2023 6:56 PM BST
^
I mean all the media noise about the Halep thing which must be distracting to players that go to the academy.
I doubt he's done anything wrong. But the social media storm can't be helpful to the development of young players.
Report SamuelMertensBertens October 7, 2023 9:53 AM BST
Alina Korneeva
Report Journeyman October 7, 2023 6:11 PM BST
Good pick (I'm not going to moan about 250 qualies).
Wisewords can now relax a bit Grin
Report Journeyman October 8, 2023 11:16 AM BST
From the above list, players outside the top 300 that I think break the top 100 in 2024.

T.Preston (Currently 317, impressive and needs to capitalise when things move down under)
N.Bartunkova (Currently 333, yup this is nailed on)
V.Mboko (Currently 389, the Canadian Serena williams if she can avoid injury)
R.Jamrichova (Currently 651, tentative based on her plans for the year but super talent)

Emma is a jawdropping 279 so will shortly be outside the top 300 but is obviously a top 100 quality player.
Report edy November 19, 2023 7:58 PM GMT

Jul 17, 2021 -- 12:36PM, n88uk wrote:


Ane Mintegi del Olmo


Won her first professional title today. None that will give any points for this competition, it was the W25 in Heraklion, but hopefully a first step of things to come after so many struggles with injuries during the past years.

Report Journeyman January 1, 2024 12:00 AM GMT
M.Stakuš-ić
M.R(i)st-ić
Report edy January 1, 2024 12:00 AM GMT
2024 picks

Hannah Klugmann
Laura Samsonova
Report edy January 1, 2024 12:00 AM GMT
I would have been so mad if you had gotten either of Klugmann or Samsonova in before me even though I used an internet atomic clock.
Report Journeyman January 1, 2024 12:01 AM GMT
Ristic beat Samsonova 6-0 6-0 in Prerov. otherwise I would ahve gone for laura!
Report edy January 1, 2024 12:02 AM GMT
Fluke
Report edy January 1, 2024 12:02 AM GMT
and it's Klugman of course
Report Journeyman January 1, 2024 12:03 AM GMT
You should have just posted 'L.Samsonova' and confused everyone who would have thought it was the less talented one
Report edy January 1, 2024 12:03 AM GMT
Missed chance Cry
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 1, 2024 4:06 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2024 -- 12:03AM, Journeyman wrote:


You should have just posted 'L.Samsonova' and confused everyone who would have thought it was the less talented one


Laura S would have been even better.

Report SamuelMertensBertens January 1, 2024 4:30 AM GMT
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for Iga.
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 1, 2024 4:49 AM GMT
sorry wrong thread.
Report wisewords January 1, 2024 11:54 PM GMT
I officially select Clervie Ngounoue.
Report edy January 4, 2024 11:55 PM GMT
Laura Samsonova decided she doesn't want to be confused with the other Samsonova, and take advantage of Czech laws from a few years ago that enables women to scratch the ova, so she now goes by Laura Samson

https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/laura-samson/800578274/cze/jt/s/overview/

'Tis my flag from January 1 this year to avoid any confusion.
Report Journeyman January 22, 2024 11:28 PM GMT
A relatively flag heavy last 12 in Melbourne.

Both Edy and I could potentially end the week sitting in first place!

Edy's best result (a Kostyuk Queenwen final) is a guaranteed 4 points even before rankings enter the discussion.
I do need Noskova to produce the goods now. She just fell short in Adelaide 2023 and she absolutely mugged me in Prague. All would be forgiven if she can win the tournament which would guarantee me 3.5 points and top of the tree.
Report Journeyman January 24, 2024 12:59 PM GMT
Queenwen into the top 10 so edy already in second place and two matches from outright 1st place.

Kostyuk should really have won in straight sets, maybe if she hadn't created bedlam in her press conference and on social media the day before? She's clearly got the physical tools to win a slam but a bit of discipline and management needed to take that next step.
As for Linda N, great tournament and announced herself with the Iga win but really didn't get a look in against Dayana. Hey edy you want to swap her for Renata, Bartunkova and a large tin of Celebrations?
Report edy January 25, 2024 8:13 PM GMT
No, I am not trading two very promising players and a large tin of Celebrations for Noskova. I am officially over her. Told you I am not impressed with subpar movers and I have seen Noskova move.
Report edy January 27, 2024 8:31 AM GMT
Jamrichova stormed through the Australian Open draw and won the title. Points please. Happy
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 27, 2024 8:49 AM GMT
This is very silly.
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 27, 2024 9:21 AM GMT
Some nice results for the flags at the Aussie Open, but Zheng the only one scoring points.
STANDINGS:
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) edy 5.5 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, Qinwen Zheng 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 10, 1.5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 4, 2024 12:32 AM GMT
Diana Shnaider.
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 4, 2024 2:21 PM GMT
STANDINGS:
1) SamuelMertensBertens 7,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title, Diana Shnaider 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) edy 5.5 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, Qinwen Zheng 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 10, 1.5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.

With this point I will win even if Mirra flops and only wins 2 Slams and makes world no 1 in reasonable time.
Report Journeyman February 4, 2024 4:56 PM GMT
Obviously it's within your original rules to do something like this but the contestants over the last four years have clearly been making picks based on skill and judgement. Picking an player already established on the tour on the basis that she is in a bleep bleep bleep WTA final is nothing to do with skill and judgement. It's some kind of fastest-finger-first thing. You nearly did this with Timofeeva last year but held back, possibly sensing there might be a reaction.

Rather than go on about it I'll just run a parallel alternative table, still first to 15, of players picked on the basis of predicting what they could achieve (rather than fastest-fingers-first when they get to a final etc).

Alternative table (Skill and judgement based picks only).
1) SamuelMertensBertens 6,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) edy 5.5 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, Qinwen Zheng 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 10, 1.5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.
Report edy February 4, 2024 6:56 PM GMT
Does SaMeBe get two more picks for that alternate table then this year? Sounds complicated.

I think it's perfectly fine. If he ends up beating us, which he won't, we'll just put a mahoosive asterisk next to his victory.
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 4, 2024 7:55 PM GMT

Feb 4, 2024 -- 6:56PM, edy wrote:


Does SaMeBe get two more picks for that alternate table then this year? Sounds complicated.I think it's perfectly fine. If he ends up beating us, which he won't, we'll just put a mahoosive asterisk next to his victory.


You can asterisk all you want, a win is a win! Happy
Me not going with Timofeeva had nothing to do with reactions, but I felt that Timofeeva had a high ceiling of 1 pt and was not worth to waste a pick on at the time (this might prove wrong, because she did well in Melbourne) whereas I think Diana could potentially gain more than that. Plus 1 pt can be important at this stage of the game. This competition is about getting to 15 pts. Which strategy to use to get there is up to each contestant.

Report SamuelMertensBertens February 11, 2024 6:01 PM GMT
this was posted elsewhere:
edy • February 11, 2024 2:34 PM GMT
Comp 2 needs to have a mechanism that lets you protect a number of existing flags.

SamuelMertensBertens • February 11, 2024 4:09 PM GMT
I have actually thought about this. There is a possiblity that there will be something like this, but no decision yet. If so it's likely to be very limited, details will be presented at some point, but for now all the information I can give is there MAY be some sort of (likely very limited) flag protection for future comps so this can be taken into account when placing picks for this current one.
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 7, 2024 1:50 PM BST
STANDINGS:
1) SamuelMertensBertens 7,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10, Linda Fruhvirtova 1 pt for winning WTA title, Diana Shnaider 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) edy 6.5 pts (Marta Kostyuk 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1 pt for making top 20, Qinwen Zheng 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 10, 1.5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
4) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
5) everybody else 0 pts.

updated due to Marta Kostyuk making Top 20.
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 11, 2024 6:36 PM BST
Flag pick no 2 for 2024: Iva Jovic.
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