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TGMTEL
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I've decided to come up with a little competition where we try to pick the future stars of tennis. This one is for WTA, there is also another thread for ATP. Despite the wall of text it's pretty straightforward.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS (selection process):
* You get two picks per year and you can make these whenever you like in 2019. At the beginning of 2020 (we will go by UKT), you get another two picks (you can make these picks whenever you like during the year), another two for 2021 etc. After a few years you will have hopefully built up quite the stable.
* You can pick any player born 2002 or later with the exception of Coco Gauff since everyone has already predicted her to be the next big thing.
* You can make your two picks at the same time or one at a time.
* If another contestant has already picked a player, no-one else can pick this player.
* You can not change picks.
* You can not save picks to the next year.
* Born 2002 or later will always apply so if there's some late bloomer born in 2002 that is developing in x amount of years from now, you can still choose them at the time regardless of age.
There's no deadline for this, you can join in whenever you like.


BUT HOW DO WE GET POINTS?
Here's how the scoring works. Points will be awarded for ranking success and title success.
Ranking: If your player go on to become a top 20 player, you earn 1 point. If your player becomes a top 10 player, you earn another 1 pt (so 2 pts), if your player becomes top 5 you earn another 1 pt (so 3 pts) and if your player goes on to become world number one you earn another 1 pt (so 4 pts).
Titles: If your player wins a main draw tour title, you earn 1 pt.
If your player reaches a Grand Slam final, you earn 1.5 pts. If your player wins a Grand Slam, you earn another 1 pt (so 2.5 pts). If your player wins three or more Grand Slams, you earn another 1,5 points (so 4 pts).
This means the total number of points won for a pick can be 9 points, 4 from ranking success and 5 from title success. You can not get points for things that have already happened. (So let's say you pick some late bloomer who just won his/her first main tour title, you will not get a point for that, but will get points for whatever achievements your player accomplishes later).


I will try to keep the thread updated with picks and scores so it's easy to know which players have already been picked. First contestant to 15 points wins the competition.
Good luck. You can make pick(s) for 2019 now if you want or you can scout and wait til later. Just do them before the year is over. Make the picks in this thread. If you have questions, just ask here.
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Report nofx August 1, 2019 6:15 PM BST
I predict that @aaronh will win this thread
Report edy August 1, 2019 6:31 PM BST
Danilovic, Iga
Report edy August 1, 2019 6:32 PM BST
damn, dem bishes be older than I thought.
Report nofx August 1, 2019 6:33 PM BST
you need to book a board meeting before using Olga for anything monetary or fame anyway
Report nofx August 1, 2019 6:34 PM BST
https://i.imgur.com/R3LZZkK.gif
Report TGMTEL August 1, 2019 6:37 PM BST

Aug 1, 2019 -- 6:32PM, edy wrote:


damn, dem bishes be older than I thought.


Yes. Both born in 2001 so not valid picks. But you can choose other players, they just need to be born 2002 or later and not be Coco Gauff.

Report aaronh August 1, 2019 10:11 PM BST
Clara Tauson, Daria Lopatetska
Report nofx August 1, 2019 10:40 PM BST
Lopatetskaya, Daria

Kudermetova, Polina
Report TGMTEL August 1, 2019 10:45 PM BST
Daria already taken. So pick someone else, can be now or anytime before the new year.
Other pick is valid.
Report edy August 1, 2019 10:49 PM BST
Oh Tauson is a good one. I've been the one hyping her up more than anyone else Cry
Report TGMTEL August 1, 2019 10:58 PM BST
For clarification: "If your player wins a main draw tour title, you earn 1 pt." refers to WTA Internationals and above.
Report edy August 1, 2019 11:31 PM BST
Osuigwe

Kostyuk
Report Journeyman August 4, 2019 2:04 PM BST
M. Laki
L. A. Fernandez
Report TGMTEL September 4, 2019 7:18 PM BST
Linda Fruhvirtova
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 8, 2019 3:35 PM GMT
Just a reminder for those of you who haven't made any or all of your picks for this year, you have until the year is over, so Dec 31, 23:59 UKT, to do so. From Jan 1, 0:00 UKT you can pick new player(s) for 2020.
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 21, 2019 6:17 PM GMT
Daria Snigur
Report edy January 4, 2020 1:55 AM GMT
Pick #1 2019

Joelle Lilly Sophie Steur
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 4, 2020 1:58 AM GMT
hey edy.
I have an important question for you.
Spoiler: Show
What year is it?
Report wisewords January 4, 2020 2:09 AM GMT
Pick #1 2020 Joelle Lilly Sophie Steur
Report edy January 4, 2020 12:16 PM GMT
oh no, ww stole my pick
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 4, 2020 12:20 PM GMT
she's yours if you want her. If you decline, pick will go to ww.
Report edy January 4, 2020 12:58 PM GMT
I'd please like her as my flag.
Report wisewords January 4, 2020 1:02 PM GMT
Plain
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 4, 2020 1:22 PM GMT
no problem
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 1, 2020 12:39 AM BST
Brenda Fruhvirtova
Report edy August 30, 2020 3:54 PM BST
pick #2 2020

Noma Nona Akugue
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 3, 2020 5:16 PM BST
pick 2 2020
Katrina Scott
Report edy February 9, 2021 7:01 PM GMT
Correction on pick #2 2020 Noma Noha Akugue

pick #1 2021 -> Alex Eala

pick #2 2021 -> Qinwen Zheng
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 9, 2021 8:48 PM GMT
Smart to pick a Chinese player. 1 guaranteed point (title win) with all the vulture events they put on.
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 14, 2021 7:10 AM GMT
pick #1 2021 Olivia Gadecki
Report SamuelMertensBertens March 7, 2021 4:14 PM GMT
We have a leaderboard!
1) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
2) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens March 22, 2021 12:08 AM GMT
Leylah Fernandez wins Monterrey and we have another person on the leaderboard!
1) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
Journeyman 1 pt (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title)
3) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 2, 2021 9:47 AM BST
Pick #2 2021:
Emma Raducanu
Report n88uk July 17, 2021 12:36 PM BST
Ane Mintegi del Olmo
Report n88uk July 25, 2021 5:37 PM BST
Sara Bejlek
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 8, 2021 6:43 PM BST
What a breakthrough tournament for the flags!
Report edy September 9, 2021 4:04 AM BST
Will you trade me Raducanu if I give you Alex Eala, Osuigwe and Steur?
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 9, 2021 2:14 PM BST
No.
Report edy September 9, 2021 5:31 PM BST
Just to make it clear btw., my Osuigwe pick was Victoria Osuigwe, not Whitney Osuigwe like some might assume.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 10, 2021 12:45 AM BST
denied
Report edy September 10, 2021 1:29 AM BST
Plain
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 10, 2021 2:45 AM BST
Leylah Fernandez reaches a Grand Slam final and Journeyman takes the lead.
1) Journeyman 2,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final)
2) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
3) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 10, 2021 4:58 AM BST
yours truly joins the leaderboard thanks to England's Emma.
1) Journeyman 2,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final)
2) SamuelMertensBertens 1,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.

More points will be given out after the final.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 11, 2021 11:51 PM BST
First Grand Slam winner for a flag.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 3,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam and 1 pt for winning her first title)
2) Journeyman 2,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.

More points to expect soon from Emma and Leylah as they are closing in on top 20.
Report edy September 25, 2021 7:11 PM BST
SaMeBe, I swear I meant Victoria Osuigwe and not Whitney. You've known me for so long as a tennis forumite. Do you really think I'd pick someone who would go on a 17 match (and counting) losing streak across all levels (WTA main draws, qualies, ITF).
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 25, 2021 7:18 PM BST
according to https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/victoria-osuigwe/800636441/usa/jt/s/act... Victoria played her first ITF matches in March 2000, seven months after you made your Osuigwe pick. Your request has been denied. But feel free to pick her in 2022.
Report edy September 25, 2021 8:10 PM BST
Yeah, like I'm going to pick another Osuigwe.
Report SamuelMertensBertens November 8, 2021 11:06 AM GMT
Emma made Top 20.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 4,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20)
2) Journeyman 2,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.
Report Journeyman November 30, 2021 9:43 PM GMT
2020 (no picks Cry .. ( gives y'all a handicap with the lefty future world #1 as my 2019 flag  )

2021 picks

D. Parry (FR)
L. Noskova (CZ)
Report edy December 1, 2021 11:13 AM GMT
edy • November 28, 2021 3:24 PM GMT
Noskova (17) vs. Bartunkova (15) at the final of the W25 Milovice. If no massive evildoer snatches them up before me, I will enter them as my flags for 2022.

Cry
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 1, 2021 11:23 AM GMT
loose lips sink ships.
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 1:12 PM GMT
and even after I decided not to be mean and steal them from edy, he still got owned Laugh
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
Oh no, I'm surrounded by all three of CHARLIE'S ANGELS ! Shocked
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
I came on to post Parry (front loading strategy) and Noskova (massive long term potential). I then saw on the Davis Cup thread that Edy has bizarrely tried to prebook her for 2022 while simultaneously trying to play down her potential !!?

Gave it some thought and concluded I still had every right to pick her as

1 - I picked her in good faith (I expect you to take my word on this)
2 - Caramba's rules are pretty clear and don't allow prebooking

However, in the interest of opening up the competition a bit I will give Noskova up.

Now Edy just needs to sweat it out another 30 days before he can pick her himself Silly
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 4:27 PM GMT
Revised selection (who would have been my first 2022 pick anyway) = the lassie who nearly won Montevideo despite missing a flight (and having to sleep on the airport floor)

2021 flags

D.Parry
V.J.Kasintseva
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 4:40 PM GMT
oh no, n88uk will be devastated
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 6:43 PM GMT
Sorry, this is now getting both silly and unfair.

If N88 was wanting to prebook Kasintseva in another thread then that is not something I have seen. He has made his 2021 picks. I have not been on here for the best part of 2 years (hence no 2020 picks).

Rule 6 at the top of the page is * You can not save picks to the next year. If this rule has changed it should have been posted in this thread.

What happens if new people want to join in. Are they supposed to pore through every megathread and s/ot thread to check who has been prebooked? How is that even manageable.
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 6:46 PM GMT
Don't take my comments too seriously Journeyman. But n88uk is indeed a big fan of VJK. he hardly posts on here much anymore though
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 1, 2021 6:52 PM GMT
There's no such thing as prebooking. Edy was just either being careless not accounting for semi-active posters and potential newcomers or trying to sell us bad picks.
Good to have you "back" in the competition.
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 6:54 PM GMT
edy was just being playful and seeing who would bite if he posted his potential picks out there
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 6:55 PM GMT
or perhaps trying to sell us bad picks like you say, but I don't know about that
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 1, 2021 6:58 PM GMT
not this time I don't think, but he has tried that in the past.
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 7:00 PM GMT
not accounting for semi-active posters and potential newcomers or trying to sell us bad picks.

Grin He has certainly come up with a few howlers.

Ok thanks guys I was feeling a bit targetted there.

Yeah I agree I don't think Edy really was 'selling' Noskova but if he legit doesn't want her I would want to take her back.
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 1, 2021 7:12 PM GMT
You can have her back regardless. Just announce what you wanna do here in good time before the end of the year. (Normally there's no changing picks at all, but I'll allow it here as an exception due to edy's shenanigans).
Report wisewords December 1, 2021 7:15 PM GMT
edy always causing problems
Report Journeyman December 1, 2021 7:20 PM GMT
Ok cool. Thanks for making the exception.

Because of the history with the Tauson thing which I know he was a wee bit upset about, let's leave it open for 24 hours for Edy to decide if he wants her or not.

Specifically

1 - If Edy posts on this thread by 19.15 Thursday GMT that he wants her then my pick is Victoria.

2 - If he doesn't then my pick is Noskova.

(But I'm having one of them! I'm not a total muppet! Happy )
Report Journeyman December 2, 2021 7:14 PM GMT
Have made an effort today to make sure he knew about this, guess he was selling after all/ changed his mind/ who tf knows... The dude is sphynxlike

I welcome the next Czech tennis princess back to my team.

2021 flags, FINAL decision, NO further messing about.
D.Parry
L.Noskova

Cue Noskova now making a whirlwind rise to stardom.. You know it's coming Devil
Report edy December 2, 2021 8:28 PM GMT
Sad
Report edy December 2, 2021 8:34 PM GMT
It's all good. I likely would have picked Noskova, but I have a replacement in mind that might just have better yet potential. We'll see in ten years. Not going to announce her name anywhere though.

I was in no way trying to point out that I was upset with you with my post the other day. Nor was I really trying to preload her. I can be a bit playful at times.
Report edy December 2, 2021 8:34 PM GMT
Good to see back posting in the competition.
Report edy December 2, 2021 8:50 PM GMT
You are too good for this world btw.

I wouldn't have dreamed of giving up a pick like you offered. If it hasn't been officially picked by anyone in this thread, everything goes.
Report wisewords December 2, 2021 9:54 PM GMT
you wouldn't give up Anett even if I requested you do so? Sad
Report Journeyman December 2, 2021 11:32 PM GMT
Aw thanks, nice to have some closure. Happy
Tbh I really didn't want to give her up.

I have a replacement in mind that might just have better yet potential. We'll see in ten years. Not going to announce her name anywhere though.

That's probably for the best Laugh
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 3, 2021 1:44 AM GMT

Dec 2, 2021 -- 8:34PM, edy wrote:


It's all good. I likely would have picked Noskova, but I have a replacement in mind that might just have better yet potential. We'll see in ten years. Not going to announce her name anywhere though.I was in no way trying to point out that I was upset with you with my post the other day. Nor was I really trying to preload her. I can be a bit playful at times.


it's Kasintseva (NAP).

Report wisewords December 3, 2021 1:55 AM GMT
yeah, VJK!
Report wisewords December 3, 2021 1:55 AM GMT
shall I pick her or nah?
Report Journeyman December 3, 2021 10:56 AM GMT
That would be a sick twist Devil

Just pick her Wise

1 - She's worth a couple of short term points I reckon so would open up the comp a bit
2 - You've posted about her so you've every right to grab her as your flag
3 - It means me and N88 don't have to set our alarm clocks for New Years day and can have a lie in
Report Journeyman December 3, 2021 12:29 PM GMT
4 - If I can come back from the dead then some other semi-active player could come back from the dead and grab her. (Aaron?)
    Realistically there's almost zero percent chance she lasts to January anyway.
Report wisewords December 3, 2021 1:38 PM GMT
I officially select Victoria Jiménez Kasintseva
Report edy December 3, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
CryCryCryCry
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 3, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
welcome to the competition, wisewords.
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 3, 2021 2:19 PM GMT
Selected players as of December 3, 2021
Clara Tauson
Daria Lopatetska
Polina Kudermetova
Whitney Osuigwe
Marta Kostyuk
Michaela Laki
Leylah Fernandez
Linda Fruhvirtova
Daria Snigur
Joelle Lilly Sophie Steur
Brenda Fruhvirtova
Noma Noha Akugue
Katrina Scott
Alex Eala
Qinwen Zheng
Olivia Gadecki
Emma Raducanu
Ane Mintegi del Olmo
Sara Bejlek
Diane Parry
Linda Noskova
Victoria Jiménez Kasintseva
Report edy December 3, 2021 2:52 PM GMT
Guess I'll just have to rely on Alex Eala developing a serve then.
Report SamuelMertensBertens December 3, 2021 3:00 PM GMT
shame about Qinwen and no more tournaments in China. You can't count on the freebies that is lower level Chinese tournaments and will have to rely on her winning elsewhere.
Report Journeyman January 1, 2022 12:00 AM GMT
E.Andreeva
R.Montgomery
Report edy January 1, 2022 12:05 AM GMT
Nikola Bartunkova
Ksenia Efremova

Thanks everyone else for participating, but certain victory is mine now.
Report wisewords January 4, 2022 3:28 AM GMT
I officially select Taylah Preston
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 7, 2022 2:17 AM GMT
Leylah made Top 20.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 4,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.

With more and more and players getting results, I might miss something, so while I will try to add points as they happen, keep track of your players and let me know if I missed anything.
Report n88uk March 19, 2022 11:50 AM GMT
Petra Marcinko
Report edy March 19, 2022 4:51 PM GMT
Fantastic flag.
Report Journeyman March 19, 2022 7:21 PM GMT

Tennis Talk 2021: Vol 12 (Madrid, Estoril, Munich)
By edy on 29 Apr 21 12:48
btw., SaMeBe...flag Petra Marcinko!

Tennis Talk 2022: Vol 3 (Australian Open)
By edy on 29 Jan 22 07:56
Hey SaMeBe, flag Petra Marcinko. She just won the AO juniors and already turned heads on the ITF tour last season (beat Nara in her very first match as a pro)


It's testament to Edy's sphinxlike activity around flag-selling that she lasted this long Grin

This sadistically conceived format still has years to run but we might just look back on today as one of the key twists in the matrix
Report SamuelMertensBertens April 17, 2022 10:17 AM BST
Mirra Andreeva
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 11, 2022 12:37 AM BST
Emma made Top 10.
1) SamuelMertensBertens 5,5 pts (Emma Raducanu 2,5 pts for winning a Grand Slam, 1 pt for winning her first title, 1 pt for making top 20, 1 pt for making top 10)
2) Journeyman 3,5 pts (Leylah Fernandez 1 pt for winning WTA title, 1,5 pts for reaching Slam final, 1 pt for making top 20)
3) arrong 1 pt (Clara Tauson 1 pt for winning WTA title)
4) everybody else 0 pts.
Report SamuelMertensBertens July 28, 2022 3:27 PM BST
Lucie Havlickova
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