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caramba
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Another week on the tennis tour and another one where all the action is taking place in Asia. This is the final chance for players around 10 stay in contention for Singapore, Sabalenka now has a shot all of a sudden after her win in Wuhan.
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Report wisewords October 3, 2018 6:27 PM BST
I find things too difficult to predict at this stage of the season, with motivation levels differing massively from player to player. I'll plump for a Sevastova v Bertens final, a bit of a wild guess really.
Report differentdrum October 3, 2018 6:35 PM BST
If that happens I hope they have sold the tickets in advance.
Report differentdrum October 3, 2018 9:56 PM BST
Just to add if you are backing a player who is better than her opponents and some are turning up half baked then that is great news. I fear for any of them if they honestly think they can flick a switch and turn the tables in a few months. If Sabalenka maintains her appetite/desire then the gulf will likely widen. Leaving aside their ability to turn up how many of the current top 10/20 are actually improving? Hopefully, next year the game will move forward and three of the Slams will not be won by solid, ball pushers.
Report leefee October 4, 2018 7:24 AM BST
Kerber getting mullered early doors
Report tof October 4, 2018 8:26 AM BST
sexy zhang ... !!!
Report tof October 4, 2018 8:28 AM BST
sinful Siniakova dishing it out ...
Report leefee October 4, 2018 8:38 AM BST
Tsitsipas mental midget
Report tof October 4, 2018 8:40 AM BST
mosquito boy comes back ...
Report caramba October 4, 2018 8:48 AM BST
Bertens mugging so much here.
Report caramba October 4, 2018 8:52 AM BST
lucky escape for injured Taylor.
Report leefee October 4, 2018 9:34 AM BST
Can Kontaveit take out The Weaponless One today?
Report tof October 4, 2018 10:09 AM BST
mosquito boy lost his buzzz in the end there ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 10:10 AM BST
mOOnbal on ze m00n court ...
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 10:47 AM BST
what a mug anderson
Report tof October 4, 2018 10:54 AM BST
ze forum referring to woz as weaponless when she possesses the weapon of all weapons ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 11:33 AM BST
Mugvin Mugderson aka ostrich man ... Laugh
Report differentdrum October 4, 2018 12:10 PM BST
One ball pusher through courtesy of a big helping hand from her opponent. If you have nothing on your serve and hit 55 unforced errors in two sets then you can hardly expect to win.
Report tof October 4, 2018 12:22 PM BST
same drum as sedentary pizza gobbling grant innit ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 12:23 PM BST
a win's a win ... muppet ... world no2 for a consistent reason innit ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 12:24 PM BST
...and I think wozgnocchi served more aces in that match ... so purleez ... !!??
Report differentdrum October 4, 2018 12:40 PM BST
The floor is yours. It would be impossible to even attempt to match those last three contributions.
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 12:41 PM BST
Another Kyrgios performance where he looks like he'd rather do anything than be playing tennis
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 12:46 PM BST
blasting every shot and serve as hard as he can, not even bouncing the ball between serves
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 12:58 PM BST
Gasquet bottling break points a guy who doesn't even want to be there
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 12:58 PM BST
against a guy*
Report tof October 4, 2018 12:58 PM BST
boken drum ...Grin
Report tof October 4, 2018 1:02 PM BST
pleeshkova has just realised hiring rene stubs woz a beeg mist00k ...Laugh ... wtf woz that advice ...
Report leefee October 4, 2018 2:21 PM BST
1 match too farvfor Sabalenka?

Gotta be feeling tired by now
Report caramba October 4, 2018 2:44 PM BST
KaPlis and Bertens both losing today. Sabalenka currently 10th in race, could do with a win today or she'll be ~600 pts behind. F here will make things very close, a W will catapult her to 6th.
Report caramba October 4, 2018 2:49 PM BST
I'm assuming Simona won't play, so that should open up another spot.
Report n88uk October 4, 2018 3:04 PM BST
Wouldn't count on that. She'll probably turn up knowing her.
Report caramba October 4, 2018 3:11 PM BST
how reliable is this source?
https://twitter.com/WTARomania/status/1047842599153934336
Report n88uk October 4, 2018 3:13 PM BST
Don't follow so don't know, but that's in line with my expectations on what she will say anyway.
Report caramba October 4, 2018 3:17 PM BST
according to that site she's out of Moscow.
Report n88uk October 4, 2018 3:23 PM BST
Well no-one in Singapore actually plays Moscow anyway.
Report leefee October 4, 2018 3:23 PM BST
Garcia being so french
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 3:25 PM BST
classic
Report tof October 4, 2018 3:43 PM BST
its all gone a bit ben & jerry's cherry garcia innit ...?
Report leefee October 4, 2018 3:43 PM BST
Loses 6 pts in a row after being 3-1 up
Report caramba October 4, 2018 3:43 PM BST
Sabalenka in GOAT mode there.
Report tof October 4, 2018 3:44 PM BST
ATP WTA equality innit ...?
Report tof October 4, 2018 3:44 PM BST
thats why they DEMAND the big bucks innit ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 3:50 PM BST
Jaziri ... !!!
Report tof October 4, 2018 3:51 PM BST
always does this to zver00v ...
Report SabineIsGOAT October 4, 2018 4:03 PM BST
1.04    £7,341
1.05    £90,151
1.06    £68,995

CaGa airways busted
Report tof October 4, 2018 4:08 PM BST
wonder what daddy Garcia will say or is he not allowed to speak on ze way to ze hotel ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 4:19 PM BST
zver00v borrowed krinic's headband innit ...
Report tof October 4, 2018 4:19 PM BST
^krunic*
Report tof October 4, 2018 4:42 PM BST
zver00v ... LaughLaugh
Report tof October 4, 2018 4:51 PM BST
for the attention of broken drum Player    Anett Kontaveit    Caroline Wozniacki
1st Serve %    60% (47 of 78)    70% (49 of 70)
Aces    2    5
Double Faults    4    1
1st Serve Points Won    53% (25 of 47)    63% (31 of 49)
2nd Serve Points Won    52% (16 of 31)    52% (11 of 21)
Break Points Won    50% (3 of 6)    45% (5 of 11)
Return Points Won    41% (29 of 71)    50% (41 of 82)
Total Points Won    70    83
Odds    2.4    1.571
Report caramba October 4, 2018 5:13 PM BST
what a mug Sascha.
Report tof October 4, 2018 5:13 PM BST
jaziri jaziri .... !!!
Report tof October 4, 2018 5:13 PM BST
does it to him every time ... Laugh
Report differentdrum October 4, 2018 6:22 PM BST
Two great back-to-back wins for Sabalenka. For differing reasons probably the best wins of her sequence.

She was pretty much beat today and still refused to give in. So often the player who levels the match doesn't take that momentum into the decider. Sabalenka had every excuse to play the tired card.

The big question now is what has she got left? She is a much better player than Wang - who seems to have made an amazing recovery in a short time - but it obviously isn't as simple as that. Hopefully, playing the crowd will add an extra bit of focus and energy.

The draw has been massively kind to Osaka and that is why she is now a relatively short priced favourite. She needs to mess up badly not to at least make the final.
Report wisewords October 4, 2018 11:23 PM BST
Karatantcheva

1.05             £10
1.07             £386
1.08             £609
1.09             £287
1.11             £1,883
Report differentdrum October 5, 2018 8:31 AM BST
What on earth was that from Osaka?

If you don't want to play then don't play. Looks like she would be better off in a clinic rather than on a tennis court.

Contrast her attitude to that of Sabalenka. One a credit to the game, the other a complete joke.
Report leefee October 5, 2018 9:51 AM BST
Easy win today for Weaponless Wozza or will she t**t around as per usual?
Report tof October 5, 2018 10:40 AM BST
all of wozgnocchi's weapons on display terday ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 10:48 AM BST
...and Kyle oozing bile right now ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 10:54 AM BST
wozgnocchi ... more weapons zan Kim Jung Ung ...Laugh
Report wisewords October 5, 2018 12:31 PM BST
tof who wins WTA Beijing title on Sunday?
Report tof October 5, 2018 12:54 PM BST

Oct 5, 2018 -- 6:31AM, wisewords wrote:


tof who wins WTA Beijing title on Sunday?


aryna oompa loompa zabal00nka ...

Report n88uk October 5, 2018 2:53 PM BST
Halep has been medically cleared to play WTA Finals btw.
Report tof October 5, 2018 3:41 PM BST
so for a few shots over there no grunting ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 3:42 PM BST
which is good concentrate on ze tinnis zabal00nka ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 3:43 PM BST
thats 4 shots no screaming ffs why don't you learn bish  ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 3:55 PM BST
no yelling = winning  ... yelling =lo0se ...
Report tof October 5, 2018 3:57 PM BST
bet zabal00nka also has a tiger tattooed on her pie ...
Report n88uk October 5, 2018 4:03 PM BST
Lol what a shot from Wang.
Report wisewords October 5, 2018 4:17 PM BST
Sabalenka Not Always GOATing
Report tof October 5, 2018 4:18 PM BST
goes to show what the forum consider weapons are not got picked off a destroyed ... ball bashing and a lot of noise goes a long way on ze forum innit ... especially if yo has a drum innit ...
Report differentdrum October 5, 2018 4:44 PM BST
Great match from Wang. Top ten stuff and hopefully she will go on to win. I have backed Osaka but I can't support someone who gets up to that sort of nonsense on a tennis court.

Possibly one match too many for Sabalenka but she was up against a very good standard. Match probably lost when unable to push home the advantage in the first set. People talk about her serve but I think that is one area where she can get significant improvement. It is a weapon but it should be more of a weapon.
Report differentdrum October 5, 2018 7:39 PM BST
I know 24 hours in WTA is a long time but hard to believe the odds going forward.

Anything like a reproduction of her last two matches and Wang beats Wozniacki, probably in straight sets. Wang has played two high quality matches against more difficult opponents and seen them off in straight sets. Wozniacki has comfortably beaten two players who were effectively spent. A ball pusher provides a different sort of opposition but Wang should be favourite. I would be surprised if the market doesn't move in that direction as well. Assuming the 'injury' does not resurface the 5/1 outright looks very big as well.

If Osaka comes out in sulky face mode again then she goes out. Her semi-final is priced up as if today didn't happen. Can she just flick a switch? At the odds I would far sooner be on Sevastova at 2/1.
Report n88uk October 5, 2018 10:07 PM BST
It's because a lot more than last 24 hours goes into pricing up a tennis match. Wang has looked good, but it will be a totally different match vs Wozniacki from her last two where she will be expected to make all the play and find all the winners.

And Osaka has been a winning machine recently, which is the biggest factor going into the price vs Sevastova.
Report n88uk October 5, 2018 10:09 PM BST
And I agree with you Wang has generally looked better, but the market is already heavily taking this into account. If this match was 2 weeks ago Wozniacki would be like 1.3x rather than 1.7x.
Report leefee October 6, 2018 8:57 AM BST
Whats going on?
Report SabineIsGOAT October 6, 2018 9:03 AM BST
Ridiculous mental midget Sevastova

4-2 40-15* on osaka's serve with osaka looking ready to give up, Sevastova bottles the break points and then gets broken back next game after osaka mto
Report SabineIsGOAT October 6, 2018 9:07 AM BST
Osaka just broke herself from 40-30 with a df and two muggy errors
Report differentdrum October 6, 2018 9:39 AM BST
Disappointing again from Osaka. Seemingly devoid of any ideas to reverse a losing position. Very similar to when she was an overwhelming favourite to beat Pliskova. If you are a Slam winner then winning is about winning finals. She couldn't have landed on a better draw. A racehorse with her attributes would have a Timeform squiggle. She wasn't expected in the US Open. That win came pretty much out of nowhere. Since then the expectation level has increased and she has failed to deliver. All very well hammering opponents in early rounds but she has pretty much capitulated under pressure almost looking as if she couldn't care less. The poorest of tennis players can show some fight. She needs to decide whether she thinks sulking and crying her way around tennis courts is the future. The sympathy I felt for her in the US Open has gone. Sadly, she seems to have embraced far too many of the worst aspects of her idol.
Report differentdrum October 6, 2018 2:35 PM BST
A disnal repeat for Wang of the last semi-final when she ended up retiring. Seemingly no idea of how to cope with a solid ball pusher. The serve, unforced error count and self doubt terrible compared to yesterday. It doesn't augur well for trying to repeat outside of China. Very frustrating for Sabalenka who surely wouldn't have capitulated in that manner. As for Wozniacki a string of very ordinary results and then this?
Report wisewords October 6, 2018 2:58 PM BST

Oct 3, 2018 -- 12:27PM, wisewords wrote:


I find things too difficult to predict at this stage of the season, with motivation levels differing massively from player to player. I'll plump for a Sevastova v Bertens final, a bit of a wild guess really.


50% correct wild guess.

Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 11:03 AM BST
Peter Gojowchoke mugging hard
Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 11:23 AM BST
umpire made a dodgy call that got in sock's head and ruined his momentum
Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 11:26 AM BST
sock taking an mto now and complaining about how the umpire changed the match
Report caramba October 7, 2018 11:38 AM BST
Sock seething about hawkeye now.
Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 11:55 AM BST
no handshake for the umpire
Report nofx October 7, 2018 11:57 AM BST
statistical anomaly in Shanghai quallies
Report n88uk October 7, 2018 12:40 PM BST
Sock's fall in the rankings in coming weeks is going to be unbelievable, not sure we've ever seen someone fall like this that wasn't due to simply not playing because of injury. He's ranked 17 atm and 159 in the race. With this few weeks left in the season, that's unbelievable. With Paris and WTF points falling off at same time, he's probably going to drop over 100 places in 1 week alone!
Report leefee October 7, 2018 1:02 PM BST
Can Basilashvili take this?
Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 1:10 PM BST

Oct 7, 2018 -- 6:40AM, n88uk wrote:


Sock's fall in the rankings in coming weeks is going to be unbelievable, not sure we've ever seen someone fall like this that wasn't due to simply not playing because of injury. He's ranked 17 atm and 159 in the race. With this few weeks left in the season, that's unbelievable. With Paris and WTF points falling off at same time, he's probably going to drop over 100 places in 1 week alone!


Completely forgot he was at WTF last year

Report SabineIsGOAT October 7, 2018 2:21 PM BST
gsm basilashvili
Report SabineIsGOAT October 8, 2018 11:58 AM BST
bet365 showing Duan as 6-3 5-3 up against Martic, offering odds of 1.08 on Duan

It's actually 1 set all and Martic is 1.4
Report leefee October 8, 2018 1:34 PM BST
Ostapenko :D
Report SabineIsGOAT October 8, 2018 2:01 PM BST
1.02    £4
1.03    £2,504
1.04    £10,961
1.05    £38,254

gubbed
Report jin_kazz October 8, 2018 2:02 PM BST
was kinda obvious that she's gonna tank after she and her coach were discussing her injured hand during changeover
Report jin_kazz October 8, 2018 2:08 PM BST

Oct 8, 2018 -- 5:58AM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:


bet365 showing Duan as 6-3 5-3 up against Martic, offering odds of 1.08 on DuanIt's actually 1 set all and Martic is 1.4


yeah, they were offering 8.0 on martic at some point

wonder what they gonna do with ppl who backed those odds

Report jin_kazz October 8, 2018 2:12 PM BST
that was nasty
Report SabineIsGOAT October 8, 2018 2:36 PM BST

Oct 8, 2018 -- 8:08AM, jin_kazz wrote:


Oct  8, 2018 -- 11:58AM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:bet365 showing Duan as 6-3 5-3 up against Martic, offering odds of 1.08 on DuanIt's actually 1 set all and Martic is 1.4yeah, they were offering 8.0 on martic at some pointwonder what they gonna do with ppl who backed those odds


give them their money and fire the guy in charge of the market

Report nofx October 8, 2018 2:40 PM BST
plus a bonus for you pointing out their flaws to them, and flowers and a card on your next birthday
Report leefee October 8, 2018 2:46 PM BST
Nastya choke
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