Angie v Serena '24' - Wimbledon final 2018

fair or not;

@alex_macpherson
I don't think it was that easy per se - Mladenovic and Giorgi both played towards the upper end of their abilities - but it did consist mostly of hard hitters averse to long rallies, and no one who brings anything like Kerber's skillset to the court

I don't think saying it was easy is an insult. It was on easy draw.

She didn't face 1 player you'd have listed in your contender list before it started.

huge point coming now

Should be break point

here comes MOMMA

OH MY WORD!!!!!!!!!11

Mad mad tennis

LINEAGE

WTAAAAAAAAAAA

Kiki mostly bottled it when it mattered. Giorgi is just Giorgi, looks good when it goes in, looks awful when it doesn't. Hard to beat Serena like this with her serve being very hard to gung ho attack like Giorgi does.

easy NID

That's the worse I've seen Serena in a final for a long time. This narrative of Kerber playing lights out today is ridiculous.

good job rafa and novak were there to provide some good tennis today

did she win making winners or did serena make a load of UEs trying to blast her off the court?

Is this Serena's worst Slam final showing ever? Worse than against Stosur?

Well done Angie.

The World's Greatest Ever Person BATTERED BATTERED BATTERED.

Now where's my BATTERED Fish?

How long will Angie mug for now?

truth to be told, serena had a soft draw, full of mugs, some of whom pushed her and would have beaten her if they weren't gibbering mental wrecks (yes, kiki, i'm looking at you).

I'm not saying she can't win another slam, of course she can, and a good run in, and i'd have her favourite for flushing meadows, but this draw got her nowhere near ready to play a ferocious and finely tuned carebear.

Congrats Angie.

I did tell you .....

Williams just go and hide.

She still had to be the centre of attention at the very end.

doesnt look like serena will get the record now, shes completely shot to pieces, cant more and cant hit the court

Some bearded bloke went for the high five then the hug she pied him on both what a bitch

This is the easiest surface to win on with compromised movement like Serena is trying to do too. She will have to get better to win USO, as Wimbledon is normally her gimme.

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:24AM, GRANTCKING wrote:

doesnt look like serena will get the record now, shes completely shot to pieces, cant more and cant hit the court

Lol, good one.

This was her first full slam since the comeback from having a baby, a final is an over achievement

kerber only missing FO for the set now

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:25AM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:

kerber only missing FO for the set now

thank god she has 0% chance of ever winning that

I said earlier in the week Serena looks like she's still carrying too much timber

but thought she'd still rise for the final, never thought Kerber would win in straights.

mesmerised 14 Jul 18 17:25 
This was her first full slam since the comeback from having a baby, a final is an over achievement


Not sure Clijsters would agree.....

BBC Disaster as William destroyed.

It's time for S/OT 6
By wisewords on 28 Jun 18 17:20
bob back Petra and Angie for Wimbledon. collect in 2 1/2 weeks time

It's time for S/OT 6
By wisewords on 29 Jun 18 14:31
aaron who you got for the Vimbledon; Petra pojd or Angie Angie?

It's time for S/OT 6
By wisewords on 30 Jun 18 02:12
Angie can beat Petra. I hope Petra wins though

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well done Angie!!

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:22AM, caramba wrote:

Is this Serena's worst Slam final showing ever? Worse than against Stosur?

Probably in terms of level shown. Serena did nothing really well today. You look at it and think how she got this far, but yer the draw was very favourable. No-one who really had the ability to extend rallies or not play into her hands.

Nice pick Wise I already said it tho

what odds you get wise ??

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:25AM, n88uk wrote:

Jul 14, 2018 --  5:24PM, GRANTCKING wrote:doesnt look like serena will get the record now, shes completely shot to pieces, cant more and cant hit the courtLol, good one.

gl if u back her for the US open, I wont be, shes old and too big, she cant get movement back at that age imo

She can get her movement back better than this.

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:26AM, wisewords wrote:

It's time for S/OT 6By wisewords on 28 Jun 18 17:20bob back Petra and Angie for Wimbledon. collect in 2 1/2 weeks timeIt's time for S/OT 6By wisewords on 29 Jun 18 14:31aaron who you got for the Vimbledon; Petra pojd or Angie Angie?It's time for S/OT 6By wisewords on 30 Jun 18 02:12Angie can beat Petra. I hope Petra wins though--well done Angie!!

Great shout wisey

Get off the stage Williams

you guys, I can't wait for Angie's amazing interview here.

BBC would have never shut up about it if Williams won, in regards to her having a baby etc, like she's the only woman to ever have a kid and go back to work, women up and down this land do that no bother, and they have to do it because they have no choice

So thank you Kerber

Serena let here friend win OH MY

I think Clijsters had something like 17 months between having a baby and winning the US and was 26 years old? tbf to Serena she's nearly 37 and it's more like 10 months and just 4 tournaments

@Alun

Nice Tash Angie

whens mixed doubles on?

The German lineage innit

tennis coming home after 20 years of hurt.

The Williams baby is a non-story.

The real story is how she can take all that time off, walk into Wimbledon and be better than 126 mugs, and get paid the same as the men. .

*22

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:29AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

BBC would have never shut up about it if Williams won, in regards to her having a baby etc, like she's the only woman to ever have a kid and go back to work, women up and down this land do that no bother, and they have to do it because they have no choiceSo thank you Kerber

Pretty sure there's a difference between a normal woman going back to work in an office and playing at the top level of professional tennis.

When mum Evonne Goolagong Cawley won in 1980 there was virtually no mention of the baby.

itz coz she iz black innit

Oh surely not Granty.

One thing I do know is that watching the screamer getting battered is getting my appetite heightened for some fish and chips.

And maybe some mint/choc ice cream for afters.

Sophistication all the way here.

living the dream alun!

Evonne Goolagong Cawley was 26 in 1980, prime age. Williams is 36 way off peak age.

Evonne Goolagong Cawley's kid was born 3 years before Wimbledon 1980. That's probably why.

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:32AM, milla445 wrote:

Jul 14, 2018 --  5:29PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:BBC would have never shut up about it if Williams won, in regards to her having a baby etc, like she's the only woman to ever have a kid and go back to work, women up and down this land do that no bother, and they have to do it because they have no choiceSo thank you KerberPretty sure there's a difference between a normal woman going back to work in an office and playing at the top level of professional tennis.

Actually there isn't, its been proved that sports women don't lose any of their previous talent/speed after giving birth, plenty of women have gone back to performing to their highest level after giving birth (jessica ennis, liz mcolgin and most recently Laura Kenny (trott)), in fact its been proved in some cases its improved their level because of the increasing hormones after giving birth.

Not sure how it relates to tennis but its quite common for distance athletes to run pbs very soon after childbirth. Something to do with changes in physiology promoting aerobic capacity or somesuch.

And lets be right

She's a multi millionaire that has zero pressure to return, 99% are forced back into work because of the financial pressure.

Wiiliam should have had  the suit on .

Spot on Son ,that she made the Final shows the state of Womens Tennis

Barely a moment of recognition from the BBC pundits that Kerber was far superior on the day.

BBC will be harping on about great it is for Serena to return after giving birth

When its proven its not that big a deal, but they have to trot out the usual in these circumstances

It takes approximately 1 year for you to get to full strength after giving birth, Serena only gave birth 10 months ago. On top of that at Serena's age you'd expect a natural decline in all those things anyway which she's constantly fighting against regardless.

Pretty sure Ennis got a lot of baby hype as well. Anyway, does that make reaching the Wimbledon final less of an achievement?

And with no pressure making the final. Again, makes her worthy of all the praise she's getting. Could be sitting with her feet up eating Pringles just now.

Liz McColgan

I've known women give birth and are out running round after the dad a few hours after it

Its not big deal

Running is much, much different to playing tennis or any other sport. Running is virtually all endurance.

Tennis requires a lot of core strength, you lose a lot of core strength after giving birth and don't fully regain it for around a year.

No big deal

Depends on the individual I suppose, but I'd say most women aren't out running a few hours after childbirth. It's not exactly a groin strain.

Ye Gods, psychobabble about the Williams daughter now.

Serena is nearly 37 and is only playing her 4th tournament and 1st full slam since giving birth, which part of that is a very difficult thing to do do people not understand.

You would get more respect if you just stop faffing about with your posts and come out say that you're racist pricks.

mes brings up the race card

A quite breathtaking post.

Every single slam every year is the same, the Anti Willam's sisters brigade comes out in full force, where exactly are you during the rest of the year lol, only come on where she's big news at on your TV to make a series of thinly veiled attacks on her for reasons we all really know, even when Monfils was knocked out there were a load of Anti Monfils posts suddenly it's the same with Lewis Hamilton, successful and British yet gets a lot of abuse from British people because apparently they don't like the fact he lives in Monaco or because of his personality, nothing ever said about Jenson Button when he was a tittle winner living in Monaco.

Twitter is by far and away the worst culprit as the black player will tell you.

I see SW did an England today - goes deep in the tournament after benefiting from an extremely soft draw, then gets smashed to bits by the first decent opponent she meets

Jelena Djokovic
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This amazing woman @serenawilliams has given birth to her little girl just one day before I gave birth to my girl 10 months ago. I am barely surviving to watch, and she is RUNNING and playing FINAL of a Grand Slam

Jul 14, 2018 -- 12:31PM, mesmerised wrote:

Every single slam every year is the same, the Anti Willam's sisters brigade comes out in full force, where exactly are you during the rest of the year lol, only come on where she's big news at on your TV to make a series of thinly veiled attacks on her for reasons we all really know, even when Monfils was knocked out there were a load of Anti Monfils posts suddenly it's the same with Lewis Hamilton, successful and British yet gets a lot of abuse from British people because apparently they don't like the fact he lives in Monaco or because of his personality, nothing ever said about Jenson Button when he was a tittle winner living in Monaco. Twitter is by far and away the worst culprit as the black player will tell you.

lewis hamilton is a tax dodging wannabe gangster prat, did you see how he was dressed 2day in centre court?

Well that didn't work.

Anyway, I'd rather take the opinions of someone who's been through childbirth on a similar timescale to Serena over the thinking of "couple of paracetamol, bit of a nap and back to work" that some seem to have. Deserves every ounce of praise.

Hamilton gets abuse because he comes off as a bit of a c**t. Of course, I'm a massive Alonso fanboy so that doesn't help him in my eyes.

I can't stand Lewis Hamilton.

Race doesn't come into it I can assure you.

Jul 14, 2018 -- 12:42PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

Jul 14, 2018 --  6:31PM, mesmerised wrote:Every single slam every year is the same, the Anti Willam's sisters brigade comes out in full force, where exactly are you during the rest of the year lol, only come on where she's big news at on your TV to make a series of thinly veiled attacks on her for reasons we all really know, even when Monfils was knocked out there were a load of Anti Monfils posts suddenly it's the same with Lewis Hamilton, successful and British yet gets a lot of abuse from British people because apparently they don't like the fact he lives in Monaco or because of his personality, nothing ever said about Jenson Button when he was a tittle winner living in Monaco. Twitter is by far and away the worst culprit as the black player will tell you.lewis hamilton is a tax dodging wannabe gangster prat, did you see how he was dressed 2day in centre court?

no? he was once prevented from being allowed into the Royal Box because he wasn't wearing the correct attire? so would be surprised if that rule has changed.

Given how much money the UK Government spunks on wars and £20,000 stones outside of hospitals because they have great healing powers, I don't think anyone can really preach with confidence about people who live in tax havens. We spunk 45 million on helicopters to crash land in Iraq, a place we should never be.

he wasnt in the royal box

and im not going on about him living in monaco when I say tax dodging, did u not see the scam he pulled with his plane and isle of man?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/06/lewis-hamilton-avoided-taxes-jet-isle-of-man-scheme-paradise-papers

lol yeh just leases the plane to himself, seems legit!

Federer lives in a tax haven ffs

did you read what I said?

as others have said in here its nothing to do with hamiltons race, hes a helluva driver, but hes a proper c*nt of a man

I'm not saying that everyone who dislikes Hamilton is racist, but those that are, use silly things like where his home is as a stick to beat him with.

yet nothing was ever said about Button or many rich and famous sports stars that live there like Novak or Rosberg.

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:29AM, caramba wrote:

you guys, I can't wait for Angie's amazing interview here.

amazing!

Jul 14, 2018 -- 11:45AM, gjohn101 wrote:

Not sure how it relates to tennis but its quite common for distance athletes to run pbs very soon after childbirth. Something to do with changes in physiology promoting aerobic capacity or somesuch.

100% true. witnessed this in athletics alot, even at an amateur level

The entire BBC coverage of the women's singles this year was a massive tribute to Serena Williams and they were clearly devastated she got beaten. I've never seen such biased sports coverage. Hardly a day went by without them telling viewers what an inspiration she was and what an incredible achievement it was for her to be back playing at the top level so soon after child birth. Kerber hardly received any coverage in comparison. She apparently just ruined the story so they couldn't eulogise Serena more after she won.

The draw appeared to be fixed to help Serena too. The convenient 25 seeding which placed her in a very easy quarter and an incredibly easy half, with her only supposed threats being serial Slam choker Svitolina, Wozniacki, who had never made it past the 4th round at SW19, and clueless baseline basher Keys. Meanwhile, the top half was loaded with the likes of Kvitova and Muguruza (both former Wimbledon champions), recent French Open winner Halep and Kerber. Not to mention big up-and-comers like Kasatkina, Osaka and Ostapenko. You can't tell me that was mere coincidence.

The fact is, Serena didn't come up against a decent player until the final. And you don't hear Azarenka going round telling everyone she is doing it for all the mums out there, and other pro female players who have left the tour to have a child and come back haven't received the same sort of coverage. The whole Serena deification by the Beeb perfectly fits its agenda to promote political correctness.

Are you saying the BBC fixed the Wimbledon draw

just a Serena hater/racist talking garbage down to the whinging about political correctness

The blazer brigade, Timmy Henman & chums helped Serena out for sure. You don't want to believe it, that's fine. Please don't talk about racism. The BBC eulogizing of her was ridiculously over the top.

Oh I will believe you Johnny if you can back up your rant somehow - I'm just wondering how the BBC managed to get Serena such a good draw?? I await a reasoned response

"And you don't hear Azarenka going round telling everyone she is doing it for all the mums out there"

must admit when I heard serena say this I cringed big time