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By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:11
poland, czech
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:11
sweden
By:
wisewords
When: 11 Jul 16 01:17
Crazy
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:19
Excited
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:19
what u watching now
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:23

Jul 11, 2016 -- 12:52AM, map wrote:


bs, scaremongering


What was leave's completely wrong picture of the undemocratic EU monster that is out to get your freedom and indepence if not scare tactics? Or them using a picture of refugees with the lone purpose of inciting fear - was that not giant scaremongering?

By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:24
What about "THE EU WILL GO DOWN!!!!! WE HAVE TO LEAVE NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!"?
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:25
edy we get it youre pro eu:)
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:26
no, I'm legitimately curious. Already yesterday you talked about EU scaremongering. What is that stuff from leave?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:26
just facts?
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:26
moment im working;p
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:27
facts like the things and promises they made a u turn on a few hours after the result was published?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:28
Things they coincidentally didn't know a few hours earlier to tell the voters in time
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:31
Or hey, what about the lunatic scaremongering about Turkey joining the EU in a matter of years?
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:33
what do you mean
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:33
Leave campaign was scaremongering around that Turkey would join the EU by 2020 or 2030. Never gonna happen and they perfectly know that
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:35
just used it in a climate of increasing fear of muslims to incite fear and garner votes even though they knew better
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:41
Either way, maybe I was able to show you that "project fear" wasn't just done by Cameron and Remain. I would argue leave had even more scaremongering, and completely irrational one at that, going on. That's why it has always amused me if the people who voted leave talk about a one-sided Project Fear or scaremongering from only Remain.
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:42

Jul 11, 2016 -- 12:51AM, map wrote:


ww, i read a lot of papers and all the comments were pro leave in the comments sections

By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:42
ffs
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:43
it also feels like leave heavily exaggerates what Cameron actually said. As if he was saying Armageddon would happen or something like that.
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:44
It got to an absurd point where Cameron said all the bad people would like Brexit but most of it was based on the economy which in general never cut through to leavers
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:45
Unless map is also heavily following left wingers on Twitter or also reading left leaning papers like mirror and guardian then reading too much into Twitter and comment sections is meaningless

There's a reason people say don't read the comments
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:46
sure like the exit polls and polls all the remain camped love to talk up
By:
map
When: 11 Jul 16 01:46
ring that a few thousand doesnt equal 30mil votes
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:46

Jul 11, 2016 -- 12:54AM, map wrote:


know whats funny with this call for a 2nd referndum? they say 4mil signed for one right? sure, and? 17mil voted OUT 15mil voted REMAIN, so 4mil/15mil want a 2nd referndsum OF COURSE we cant or shouldnt


Fun fact

That petition was set up by a Brexiter from Telford anticipating that leave would lose Happy

By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:47

Jul 11, 2016 -- 1:46AM, map wrote:


sure like the exit polls and polls all the remain camped love to talk up


There was plenty in favour of leave too.

The leave.eu guy commissioned some polling of 12k people on the day I think and it came out at 52-48

By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:48
All those polls saying remain should win probably worked against them anyhow
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:49
It's not like they ring up x000 people and take their answers


They split their participants by age gender political preference education level etc
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:51
The exit poll for 2015 election was near perfect in predicting a Tory majority which wasn't coming up in previous polling.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:53
Bombay mix
In 2006, the Sun reported that “nutty” EU officials wanted to rename Bombay mix Mumbai mix, “to make the snack politically correct”.

This story is completely fictional. The Telegraph’s then Brussels correspondent, David Rennie, managed to find the source of the story, which was a small regional news agency in England. The editor there told him the story “came from a mate at the Home Office, who had heard it being talked about” and when challenged said: “Look, this is just meant to be funny for the tabloids.”

Grains of truth (out of five): 0


That's how Sun, Daily Mail and Daily Express work. Inspiring stuff
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:54
Banning prawn cocktail crisps

The stories you need to read, in one handy email
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This is a subject that has exercised Boris Johnson for about 15 years. In 2002 he wrote that some of his “most joyous hours” had been spent composing “foam-flecked hymns of hate to the latest Euro-infamy”, the first on the list: the ban on prawn cocktail crisps.

Except that the EU never banned the crisps. The EU contends that this palaver was the result of an error by the UK government, which failed to include prawn cocktail when asked to send a list of flavourings and sweeteners in current use to the EU, which was drafting a harmonised EU-wide list. When the mistake was spotted, the information was provided by the UK government and the list was amended.

But this hasn’t stopped Johnson from getting angry about it. As recently as March, the former London mayor cited the “great war against the British prawn cocktail flavour crisp” as part of his evidence of Brussels-gone-mad and a reason he was campaigning to leave.

Grains of truth: 1


This is how Boris Johnson works
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:56

Jul 11, 2016 -- 12:57AM, map wrote:


all the remain camp were insulting leave saying they were thick, didnt know what theyre voting for, poor, lower class, uneducated - that was the tactic to try and badger people to vote remain


These demographics did generally lean leave

People said that leavers didn't know what they were voting for because some for example blame the EU for issues of previous governments or that they voted based on some idea that the NHS would get better funding which probably won't happen or that they had this idea that immigration would suddenly get slashed by a huge amount when we have large control over it

By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:57

Jul 11, 2016 -- 1:54AM, edy wrote:


Banning prawn cocktail crispsThe stories you need to read, in one handy email Read moreThis is a subject that has exercised Boris Johnson for about 15 years. In 2002 he wrote that some of his “most joyous hours” had been spent composing “foam-flecked hymns of hate to the latest Euro-infamy”, the first on the list: the ban on prawn cocktail crisps.Except that the EU never banned the crisps. The EU contends that this palaver was the result of an error by the UK government, which failed to include prawn cocktail when asked to send a list of flavourings and sweeteners in current use to the EU, which was drafting a harmonised EU-wide list. When the mistake was spotted, the information was provided by the UK government and the list was amended.But this hasn’t stopped Johnson from getting angry about it. As recently as March, the former London mayor cited the “great war against the British prawn cocktail flavour crisp” as part of his evidence of Brussels-gone-mad and a reason he was campaigning to leave.Grains of truth: 1This is how Boris Johnson works


Beginning to think this buffoon would be the least bad next PM

By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:58
btw Aaron, did you see the how well "Brexit the movie" was researched? From John Oliver

https://youtu.be/iAgKHSNqxa8?t=4m8s
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:58
Odd this idea that voting to leave smacked down the political elite that was Cameron and co and instead granted a victory to the political elite like Boris, Gove and Farage Excited
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 01:59
People also said leavers were stupid because of this idea that people who are experts in their field apparently actually didn't know anything
By:
edy
When: 11 Jul 16 01:59
saying there are 109 pillow regulations in a desperate attempt to make the EU look menacingly weird and in fact they just listed regulations that mentioned the word "pillow" somewhere but have absolutely nothing to do with pillows
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 02:00
cool
By:
aaronh
When: 11 Jul 16 02:06
Ain't that GDP predicting horse cute
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