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This thread will probably get some hate from some others on tennis forum, but the point is to keep the ESC talk here and not in the mega fred.
So this starts today (semi final tonight 21.00 local time (CET)), then the other semi final is on Thursday and the final on Saturday night.
As usual there have been some massive odds movements since market opened, but unlike the previous two years where the odds on the fave have shortened the closer to the competition we got, that hasn't happened this year. Armenia, who are still faves, went down to 1.80 in March, but is currently over 3. Norway were early faves and was matched at 3.25 but is currently traded at 30. On the other hand, countries such as Ukraine and UK (why?) have shortened and are currently trading at 13. Sweden is 2nd fave, but I don't see Sanna having much success here. Poland is making its comeback after being absent for the past two years, but there's not a lot of love from the market for "My Słowianie". Germany is sending a really boring song, but hopefully their presenter won't screw up when presenting the scores this year.
Enjoy, and hopefully we can beat the +1500 posts we had for this last year!
So this starts today (semi final tonight 21.00 local time (CET)), then the other semi final is on Thursday and the final on Saturday night.
As usual there have been some massive odds movements since market opened, but unlike the previous two years where the odds on the fave have shortened the closer to the competition we got, that hasn't happened this year. Armenia, who are still faves, went down to 1.80 in March, but is currently over 3. Norway were early faves and was matched at 3.25 but is currently traded at 30. On the other hand, countries such as Ukraine and UK (why?) have shortened and are currently trading at 13. Sweden is 2nd fave, but I don't see Sanna having much success here. Poland is making its comeback after being absent for the past two years, but there's not a lot of love from the market for "My Słowianie". Germany is sending a really boring song, but hopefully their presenter won't screw up when presenting the scores this year.
Enjoy, and hopefully we can beat the +1500 posts we had for this last year!
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edy you're having a laugh, you can go all night saying similar things like that, like pronunciations, we don't pronounce words the way they are spelt either, in that sense, every language is weird, the yanks like to be different God bless em, really they all just want to be English, they're obsessed with us.
Ideally however words should mostly be spelt like they are pronounced. Hence the american version should be considered an improvement.
Or do you have groundbreaking arguments on why pronounciation should differ more than necessary from the actual spelling?
other way around: Why spelling should differ more than necessary from pronounciation
edy what planet have you just swung by from, the American pronunciation tends to drag out each and every last syllable, which ironically would mean our spellings with the letter U would be better suited for them, not doing the opposite and shortening words, ironically, they don't understand irony though.
mesmerised has learned years to learn German despite there being zero need for it.
Loves the language and the people
Loves the language and the people
Having a look at the results now, from what I've seen far Austria got high points from the tele voting, for instance it finished 3rd in Russian tele voting.
Won the German tele voting rank, but only placed 11th with the jury.
So how did that happen if all russians are homophobic? Maybe western europeans need to stop being so prejudiced about easterners as a whole being prejudiced.
All the russians aren't homophobic. Otherwise bands like **** Riot wouldn't exist
eddie Izzard I only learned Spanish at school for 5 years, my Spanish female teacher fancied me though and
hinted I should take it up in sixth form, I did, some 60 year old pasty man was my teacher ffs
Changed course.
hinted I should take it up in sixth form, I did, some 60 year old pasty man was my teacher ffs
Changed course.
May 10, 2014 -- 6:43PM, caramba wrote:
Poland won UK tele voting
aaron's mom not gonna be happy about the next phone bill
May 10, 2014 -- 6:44PM, caramba wrote:
I will soon, but need to analyze what went wrong first.
analyse
Next time I try to help you guys on things like this, don't shoot me down ok.
I listen to n88uk when I go Ormaechea or Cetkovska and he goes Cetkovsia.
May 10, 2014 -- 6:43PM, caramba wrote:
Poland won UK tele voting
The voting of Albania in the 2014 Eurovision Song Contest was based on 100% jury voting. In case of technical issues with the televoting or an insufficient amount of votes, the Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest state that 100% jury voting shall apply.
someone wrote on specials. haven't looked it up myself yet.
Malta went 1-1-1-3-1 with jury, 24 with phone vote in Armenia
If you look back thru the years, for some reason Malta always vote for us,
makes you think stuff is leaked considering how those two countries shortened after ESC, even if that info is supposed to be top secret.
In every country I've looked, Austria has been 4th or better for tele voting.
the people want to show they're tolerant and progressive
It's weird how the jury of one country can place Austria at 25th, where all jury members have them around that, and then another jury have the same country at 1st place, with all jury members voting them 1st.
May 10, 2014 -- 6:52PM, wisewords wrote:
the people want to show they're tolerant and progressive
that's fine, but there are other ways of doing so than voting for some gimmick singer. There were others who deserved it more and for them to be screwed over in a competition that's supposed to be based on musical talent because of some political message is not right in my opinion.
last year's ukrainian drag gotta be properly pissed. This year Ukraine+pretty drag (which admittedly he wasn't....) would've meant a sureshot winner.
May 10, 2014 -- 6:56PM, caramba wrote:
May 11, 2014 -- 12:52AM, wisewords wrote:the people want to show they're tolerant and progressivethat's fine, but there are other ways of doing so than voting for some gimmick singer. There were others who deserved it more and for them to be screwed over in a competition that's supposed to be based on musical talent because of some political message is not right in my opinion.
caramba seething
anyway Austria dominated the tele voting across the board, which I didn't think they would and I felt I had good arguments for my reasoninng, so I completely misread this. I hate to be wrong 
Azerbaijan 5th with Malta jury, but only 24th in tele voting.
The voting of San Marino in the 2014 Eurovision Song Contest was based on 100% jury voting. In case of technical issues with the televoting or an insufficient amount of votes, the Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest state that 100% jury voting shall apply.
so instead of big scale phone scam they just bribed a few technicians and jury members.
How do Azerbaijan and Israel qualify as European countries ?
it's about being part in that organisation. Just like Israel always plays in UEFA. Or Australia in Asia instead of Oceania
NBA time. I'm done looking at ESC results, some more seething to follow probably though.
Poland 5th overall, Russia 6th, when only counting tele voting:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqCaULT1
uygxM4dMy5i2pa1PGYoCDAqj4EByXUnMZh0/edit?pli=1#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqCaULT1
uygxM4dMy5i2pa1PGYoCDAqj4EByXUnMZh0/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Azerbaijan never cease to amaze with their shady methods.
Look at the jury voting here:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=AZ
None of the jurors stand out from any of the other which makes it look like they were all in this together. They have given high points to countries that were expected to score low points overall, and given their lowest scores to nations that were expected to do well such as Austria, Sweden and Netherlands, which looks very much like a way to make sure that their biggest threats in this competition got as few points as possible for them. As a result of this even though nations such as Austria and Sweden did ok in their tele voting, they ended up with no or very few points (Austria got 1, none of the other top nation scored points) since the results presented are a combination of tele votes and jury votes.
It probably didn't make a big difference this time overall, but they should be thrown out imo for this and all the other shady things they have done in this competition.
Look at the jury voting here:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=AZ
None of the jurors stand out from any of the other which makes it look like they were all in this together. They have given high points to countries that were expected to score low points overall, and given their lowest scores to nations that were expected to do well such as Austria, Sweden and Netherlands, which looks very much like a way to make sure that their biggest threats in this competition got as few points as possible for them. As a result of this even though nations such as Austria and Sweden did ok in their tele voting, they ended up with no or very few points (Austria got 1, none of the other top nation scored points) since the results presented are a combination of tele votes and jury votes.
It probably didn't make a big difference this time overall, but they should be thrown out imo for this and all the other shady things they have done in this competition.
let it go caramba. i agree that their practices are wrong. i doubt things will change though. but now it's time for you to let it go
let what go? I really don't see a problem with discussing an event that finished only a few hours ago, this doesn't even have anything to do with austria winning as it's a completely different matter. I got nothing better to do at the moment anyway with this NBA train going on.
you should have bet on the UFC with me! the markets are so mug 
i think political voting and questionable voting practices will exist with eurovision. i don't know how you can eradicate it from the smaller countries without banning them.
i think political voting and questionable voting practices will exist with eurovision. i don't know how you can eradicate it from the smaller countries without banning them.
Eurovoix @Eurovoix 1h
#Georgia's jury vote in the final was annulled due to identical voting from the jurors for 8 songs: http://eurovoix.com/2014/05/11/georgia-jury-had-the-exact-same-top-8/ … #Eurovision #ESC
#Georgia's jury vote in the final was annulled due to identical voting from the jurors for 8 songs: http://eurovoix.com/2014/05/11/georgia-jury-had-the-exact-same-top-8/ … #Eurovision #ESC
the jury voting that those mugs from Germany and the UK heavily lobbied for has ruined the entire competition. All just because they felt hated by the public and wanted to gain some extra points from jurors.
wonder why Armenia/Azerbaijan's clear tactical voting wasn't ruled out
Read up on Eurovision 2015. No confirmation from Poland but Cyprus will make its return next year, so that's good news for Greece.
http://www.escdaily.com/first-countries-apply-eurovision-2015-already/
http://www.escdaily.com/first-countries-apply-eurovision-2015-already/
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