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This is my NAP for the summer.
He's matured over the last 12 months and his game suits grass courts.
Feel free to ridicule me.
He's matured over the last 12 months and his game suits grass courts.
Feel free to ridicule me.
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he showed enough glimpses last year to justify some of the expectation.
would have to go on a crazy tear and show previously unseen consistency to win it.
should be 100s for wimbledon rather than 30/40s as he seems to be
would have to go on a crazy tear and show previously unseen consistency to win it.
should be 100s for wimbledon rather than 30/40s as he seems to be
Don't see him getting past the qf's at a slam this year
that would depend on his draw.
in his matches against top 10 players last year, when he's focused, he finally showed that he may well have enough to mix it with them.
his real problem is too many losses against second rate players when his intensity goes down.
no point being able to trouble the big 4 in a slam if Grega Zemlja knocks you out in the second round.
in his matches against top 10 players last year, when he's focused, he finally showed that he may well have enough to mix it with them.
his real problem is too many losses against second rate players when his intensity goes down.
no point being able to trouble the big 4 in a slam if Grega Zemlja knocks you out in the second round.
DStyle hit the nail on the head. He's shown glimpses, but he would have to take a massive step up to actually do it.
He's the kind of player the market always overrates outright in grand slams because he's obviously a popular outside bet.
He's the kind of player the market always overrates outright in grand slams because he's obviously a popular outside bet.
Djokovic is surely too short though. I never get why the market always seems to rate Djokovic on grass the same as it does on hard courts when all the stats suggest it shouldn't.
Think it's too soon for him for reasons mentioned. Wimbledon is the Slam where an upset is most likely though, since Novak/Rafa aren't as dominate on it and defending champion Murray has struggled overall since his win last year.
......Dimi currently snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.
He wont.
This is like every year when a new young player makes 2 or 3 nice matches and then nothing but hype.
He can't even win a set to the top 4 unless one of them is injured
This is like every year when a new young player makes 2 or 3 nice matches and then nothing but hype.
He can't even win a set to the top 4 unless one of them is injured
Id rather take Tsonga @ 120/1 + than dimitrov @ 30-50/1 if i were looking for alternatives
somebody had gasquet matched at 740. good trade there
Not gonna ridicule you because he's probably like 40/1 or something. But i can't see him winning.
That's the other thing with Dimitrov's price. You take this price, he gets to the QF's and he's still probably going to be around this price.
dimitrov is rubbish. he's got as much chance of winning wimbledon as a brit (bar murray) has.
Apr 15, 2014 -- 10:42PM, n88uk wrote:
That's the other thing with Dimitrov's price. You take this price, he gets to the QF's and he's still probably going to be around this price.
This goes both ways though. If he makes QF and all the big guns do as well while looking impressive, Dimi's odds won't shorten much if at all, but if the draw opens up they will and if takes out a big name in the process his outright odds could reach silly levels, like Rosol's did in 2012.
Apr 16, 2014 -- 11:24AM, caramba wrote:
Apr 15, 2014 -- 10:42PM, n88uk wrote:
That's the other thing with Dimitrov's price. You take this price, he gets to the QF's and he's still probably going to be around this price.
This goes both ways though. If he makes QF and all the big guns do as well while looking impressive, Dimi's odds won't shorten much if at all, but if the draw opens up they will and if takes out a big name in the process his outright odds could reach silly levels, like Rosol's did in 2012.
What were Rosol's odds after he beat Nadal?
It was funny, he played Kohlschreiber in the next round. Match odds for that match was Kohli 1.5-1.65 Rosol 2.50-3.00, whereas outright Rosol was around 30 and Kohli around 300.
yeah simply cause of the fact that people thought Rosol had the weapons for future rounds
sadly the same thing didn't happen with Darcis's odds the following year.
hahah easy to guess no impact for those wins 
at least shouldn't been
at least shouldn't been
Don't think they shortened much, beating Fed in 2013 by that point was no big deal. But I do remember Tomic's odds shorten a lot when he was on the rise, I think at the Wimbledon where he took out Söderling.
Sabine's odds also went to silly levels (3.6?) after she beat Serena last year.
That was probably about right though on the odds of her matches.
She was (approximately) 1.44 vs Kanepi, 1.72 vs Radwanska, 1.44 vs Bartoli.
And that was one of the tougher draws she could possibly get from that point (Kvitova was still in the other side of the draw too).
Stuff like Rosol @ 28s was just stupid. Because he was 3s for his next match and you couldn't really draw up a (realistic) draw that would possibly be value. Rosol's true price was probably at least 400s at that point.
She was (approximately) 1.44 vs Kanepi, 1.72 vs Radwanska, 1.44 vs Bartoli.
And that was one of the tougher draws she could possibly get from that point (Kvitova was still in the other side of the draw too).
Stuff like Rosol @ 28s was just stupid. Because he was 3s for his next match and you couldn't really draw up a (realistic) draw that would possibly be value. Rosol's true price was probably at least 400s at that point.
No she was favourite outright SabineIsGOAT I'm pretty sure.
no, she was clear fave in the outright at that point. started as 1.6 fave against aga once market opened but then I think it was around 1.8 once match actually started. and when I say silly odds, they were nowhere near as silly as rosol's odds of course, but still an overreaction.
Completely forgot she was favourite against Aga, I backed her pre match in every round lol
In a vacuum I don't think those were bad prices on Lisicki really. It's just the reality was (and I posted this before the final so it's not after timing) you could almost smell a no show in the final.
Back on topic, Dimitrov just won the 2ND SET against Ramos after losing the first.
He'll need to win against mugs like Granollers and Ramos in straight sets and not waste energy if he wants to go deep at slams.
He has two problems on that stand point. He's still not matured to the point that he just routines players you have to routine (especially of importance at grand slams). Sets like today it was pretty much just a focus thing, gifting away an early break, and playing too sloppy a set.
At the other end, you still don't trust him physically to last 5 sets with the bigger names. From this stand point grass is the best surface for him though, you get more easy points on grass. Grass is the hardest surface I feel for Nadal and Djokovic to just say I am going to keep you out here for 4 hours +, what have you got.
His match vs Nadal at the Australian Open was pretty impressive, but he's got to be able to do that for another 2 hours.
At the other end, you still don't trust him physically to last 5 sets with the bigger names. From this stand point grass is the best surface for him though, you get more easy points on grass. Grass is the hardest surface I feel for Nadal and Djokovic to just say I am going to keep you out here for 4 hours +, what have you got.
His match vs Nadal at the Australian Open was pretty impressive, but he's got to be able to do that for another 2 hours.
This match against Ferrer will be interesting. Ferrer the fav on clay obviously, but I've had a small wager on Dimi to beat him.
dimi matured recently and he is capable of couple upsets he would need but his chance to do this during wimbledon is enhanced by being baby federer.he lacks of first strike as old fed has as much more aggressive player. would need to find his game on grass but short season not helping to get as much experience to work on it with clear direction.french open looks more open than in previous years at least to get deeper into tourney and would like to see his results there.overall think djokovic can be big factor in both tourneys in terms of winnig,and for wimbledon he is clear fav imo
Well I started this thread in April.
The time is upon us.
GO GRIGOR!!!!! I'm on at all prices from 75 downwards.
The time is upon us.
GO GRIGOR!!!!! I'm on at all prices from 75 downwards.
He will be lucky to get past Ferrer nevermind Murray, Djokovic then Nadal/Federer.
iirc murray was around 1.22 for the semi so i guess no less than 18s
My only worry with DIMITROV is that if ANDREW CASTLE gets too close to him he might get bummed to death before the final.
IF, and that is a big if, he makes it to the QF vs Murray we will get the best indication yet whether he is going to challenge for GS titles so I hope he does get there - although Murray would be a massive favourite for me
Murray will beat him, but it might be a 5 setter. But I'd be massively confident Murray would prevail in a 5 setter.
19 odds look very generous. What price when he beats Dolgopolov?
all over the place today - seems to lack the mental resolve for grand slam matches
What a great comeback by DIMITROV. Just shows you his mental strength these days. L. Mayer in the next round.
this could be the making of him he can't have won many matches that have gone to the 5th. he won't get past murray though
He's nowhere near good enough to beat Murray then Djokovic then Nadal/Federer.
Dolgopolov gave it away, Dimitrov was tiring after 2 1/2 sets, Murray will run him into the ground.
Dolgopolov gave it away, Dimitrov was tiring after 2 1/2 sets, Murray will run him into the ground.
His price is going to drift though as long as all the big guns stay in. He is a bigger price than his outright price to beat all of Murray, Djokovic and Nadal back to back.
Something I am pretty sure that nobody has ever done.
Something I am pretty sure that nobody has ever done.
Mayer disposed of. QF v Murray awaits.
More competitive than you might imagine........
More competitive than you might imagine........
he's not going to beat any of the steroid-fueled hulks at the top of the game
Backed him on the 24th @ 23
Would have figured that with him in the quarters and Nadal out, he would have shortened. Cant believe hes drifted!!
Would have figured that with him in the quarters and Nadal out, he would have shortened. Cant believe hes drifted!!
if murray has an off day on serve (not uncommon) he has a big chance of making the sf but then beating novak & most likely fed is surely too much.
thats the fate betting outright, Nadull eliminated doesn't matter, as he's in the other half and playing Fed is equally difficult. Biggest movement on Murray outright at RG was Wawa losing, as he was the 1st obstacle Murray would have been dog, and only Fognini remaining some danger for QF
northanlite spot on concerning Mugray, probably about the rest as well
Shame he's in Joker's half. Would have given him a big chance against Fed.
well played Kitten - whatever happens from here.
I'm out on my Murray bets. If he comes back then so be it, but not for me.
I'm out on my Murray bets. If he comes back then so be it, but not for me.
i for one say he"s playing so well anything is possible,but whats the coach with the wig giving him?never seen a player improve so much so quick
what do you mean improve so much so quick? He has always had bucket loads of talent, it's is work ethic and mental aspect which is always his failings, that is so much easier to improve when a guy has the talent... Maria also has to be a big influence on him
Well I've just greened up my outright book at 12.5. Quids in whatever happens now.
saw him last year v melzer NOTHING LIKE THE PLAYER HE IS NOW
Yes Terry there has been matches where he has looked awful but they are getting less and less!! Great to watch though when playing well
Yes Terry there has been matches where he has looked awful but they are getting less and less!! Great to watch though when playing well
He's been transformed from a total mug last year. I know because I backed him at over 60 on the outright for last season's Wimbledon.
I thought it would have been a great trade
WD Kitten.
I thought it would have been a great trade
WD Kitten.
Right, that's Murray out of the way in straight sets. Who's next?
If I was shacking up with Maria Sharapova , Id beat Any Murray ...Id have testosterone bleedin outa my fookin nose
Federer broken early on. Dimitrov gonna end up favourite soon at this rate.
not sure the Djoker will survive as he showed some weaknesses, BabyFed is rising with the task, realistic chance to win imo
Maybe they backed him at huge odds on here . Good luck with your selection , the kitten .
Excellent tipping kitten, but I do think you've benefited a little by a sudden downturn in Murray's play last round. I hope you've made sure the profit is decent enough at this stage, as Djoker and Fed wouldn't be as accommodating most likely.
Yeah I'm OK stu.
I'm either gonna be rich, fooking rich, or considerably richer than you. ;)
I'm either gonna be rich, fooking rich, or considerably richer than you. ;)
Big test for Grigor today, however judging on tournament performances so far, I see no reason why he can't progress to the final.
Maybe this one: Djokovic never lost to a player younger than him in a Grand Slam.
the wind is a real plus for Dimitrov. Joker always has big problems in the wind.
Had a great run. Backed from 75 down to 20 - laid at 12.5.
More importantly, Dimitrov has come of age.
More importantly, Dimitrov has come of age.
a wonderful try from your man kitten,defeat was no disgrace
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