nadal v federer

gl veckor

gl veckor

I think Rafa will win but last time they played wasn't Fed the fav? Making the 1.3 a little low don't we think?

last time they played fed was half decent and rafa was not in the form he is in at present

The best option is to see how Federer is playing imo.

They have played twice this year. The first time was at Indian Wells, and Nadal was underdog purely because he hadn't shown too much at that stage of his comeback (it was the later rounds of IW that made everyone realise 'holy crap, Rafa is back), and it was his first hard court tournament. Similarly, Federer's decline was not quite so much in evidence 4-5 months ago as it is now.

They played again at Rome a couple of months later and Rafa was about 1.25.

i ll wait till odds are even to make a bet

The two greatest players to ever pick up a tennis racquet, but Nadal has this match up figured out.  Expect lots of backhands from RF and a win for RN. 
Yes RF was (1.88 on here) favourite at their last meeting in Indian Wells.

1.3 maybe on clay but on this surface i hope to c higher odds

Couple of bad, nervous errors from Fed there...

Very bad UEs...

FED IS OK IMHO.THIS GAME IS MOSTLY FOR FED. DESIGNED BY FED. I LOVE WAT I SEE. FED WILL HAVE A CHANCE TODAY

nadal looks nervous also

Yeah, he does. Better from Fed now too. Hmmm.

Fed often starts well against Rafa, only to fall apart eventually.

true dat

borefest

Federer has always been boring.

nadal with some backhand errors because fed playing him balls almost to that backhand side

Lots of UEs from Nadal though.

not as boring as Djokovic though.

Has Fed gone back to his old racket?

Comm said he has.

Fed in GOATmode on that point, but I doubt he can keep it up.

That's good stuff from Fed. But Nadal holds.

yep racket its the old one

way to waste your last challenge, Rafa!

Nadal is in 2nd gear, and Fed is cruising in about 4th. Close.

nadals not playing well here im hoping he wakes up soon

WOw! Amazing scenes.

Worst bet you could place now is a bet on Federer at 6-5.

i ve just made my first bet on nadal, hope he can bounce back

roger follows bookmakers odds. He would have been upset at being over 4s

Market getting punished here.

Fed is putting a lot of balls to the Nadal backhand. It's working for once.

Don't ignore the fact that Nadal has the second best record, as favourite, at winning from a set down in the top 50 players.

Federer's odds, from his starting odds, should be 1.9s now.

old times bh ... good old times...

Market suddenly cottoned on to Wafa not being fully motivated.

I would put him at 1.75

yep u r right odds should be around 1.9

starting odds mean nothing once the game starts, so if Nadal lose a leg you are going to say that he should still be 1.90?

seriously think feds backhand guna take an all mighty beating now

rafa will want this title knowing the big two are out

Fed won't want it though

if rafa is fully motivated, roger wanting the title would not make any difference. rafa never loses a match if he wants to win

Very poor game from Fed.

teo813 wrote..."starting odds mean nothing once the game starts,"


You may want to think about that a bit more.

how many ue and winners, after first set ?i missed the, thanks

how many ue and winners, after first set ?i missed the, thanks

wake up raf ffs

score here?

actually not shiraz, it is wrong to trade the market in-play based on the starting odds, (un)fortunately very few understand why

wasted ffs

Poor again from Nadal.

no one cares..some numpty like berdy will pik up a trophy..zzzz

presumably on that basis, teo, a player who starts the first set at 1.4 and wins 6-0 should be exactly the same odds as a player who starts the first set at 1.9 and wins 6-0 in the first set.

yep but maybe you dont know that betfair bots and operators that manipulate the market KNOW where the odds have to fall to red out other bettors....

well planned mugging scheme by the cincy organisers

i got robbed

finnish it

where are we now?

come on u **** espanola

Think what you like teo813, but the prematch markets have hours and hours to be set and are extremely accurate. 
The in play markets can represent "value" because the market has so little time to correct itself.

It shouldnt SoA but sometimes it happens and there is a reason for that.
I just mean that you cant trade the market based 100% on maths and you all know it, especially in tennis which is a game between two individuals.

Starting odds mean a lot more in team games like basketball, cricket etc

Starting odds mean very little in cricket. In tennis, the profit line almost exactly matches the probability line on a graph of odds v results, so I would say that tennis is the most accurately priced sport.

I really hope you are joking saying that tennis is the most accurately priced sport.

Nadal going to take this set?

Stepping it up.

15-30 point was too defensive.

I don't know about other sports, but pre match ATP H2H markets are extremely accurate.

set point!

now take it

yawn

sweeeet

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

I did warn you about Nadal's record.

Evens was pretty big at set point given 1.35 starting prices.

caramba • August 17, 2013 12:34 AM BST
Fed often starts well against Rafa, only to fall apart eventually.

Nadal's nervousness is gone; Fed's is about to ramp up...

...and multiple errors later, it's Nadal 3-0.

just unlucky on that 30-30 fed on 2nd set, 4all, but today's roger is far the better of last months, and competitive as he's been ever against rafa (10-20H2H)

These Cincinnati people hate kissing.

Wow, brilliant from both.

got my money back that mugray cost me

federer`s cincy run is over soon

The line judges here are amazing.

thanks to rafa i got my money back im green 336£ both ways hehehehe

lost 310£ to mugray

Rafa

A little muggish from Nadal. Bad challenge/play stoppage, then two points he should have put away...

??

well done nadal u supreme money machine for me hehehehe

Now for Wozniacki v Screamy Banshee

if azarenka plays to potential wozniacki does not have the fire power to compete.

isner vs delpo my guess is isner will prevail, berdych vs rafa rafa will win. final rafa vs isner.

That's a brave call, Delpo matched at 1.5-1.6.

there will be a bit of crowd pleasing too people want to see their own guy in finals, milos reached montreal finals while isner will reach cincy finals but will lose to rafa like milos did.