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vector_99
16 Aug 13 22:26
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hi guys do u think its reasonable odds to back rafa at 1.3???
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Report sofiakenny August 16, 2013 11:33 PM BST
gl veckor
Report sofiakenny August 16, 2013 11:33 PM BST
gl veckor
Report One Barry Robson August 16, 2013 11:42 PM BST
I think Rafa will win but last time they played wasn't Fed the fav? Making the 1.3 a little low don't we think?
Report The Bhoys August 16, 2013 11:43 PM BST
last time they played fed was half decent and rafa was not in the form he is in at present
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 12:03 AM BST
The best option is to see how Federer is playing imo.
Report smb360 August 17, 2013 12:04 AM BST
They have played twice this year. The first time was at Indian Wells, and Nadal was underdog purely because he hadn't shown too much at that stage of his comeback (it was the later rounds of IW that made everyone realise 'holy crap, Rafa is back), and it was his first hard court tournament. Similarly, Federer's decline was not quite so much in evidence 4-5 months ago as it is now.

They played again at Rome a couple of months later and Rafa was about 1.25.
Report Sank August 17, 2013 12:08 AM BST
i ll wait till odds are even to make a bet
Report shiraz August 17, 2013 12:11 AM BST
The two greatest players to ever pick up a tennis racquet, but Nadal has this match up figured out.  Expect lots of backhands from RF and a win for RN. 
Yes RF was (1.88 on here) favourite at their last meeting in Indian Wells.
Report Sank August 17, 2013 12:17 AM BST
1.3 maybe on clay but on this surface i hope to c higher odds
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:19 AM BST
Couple of bad, nervous errors from Fed there...
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:21 AM BST
Very bad UEs...
Report HU SUPERSTAR August 17, 2013 12:24 AM BST
FED IS OK IMHO.THIS GAME IS MOSTLY FOR FED. DESIGNED BY FED. I LOVE WAT I SEE. FED WILL HAVE A CHANCE TODAY
Report The Bhoys August 17, 2013 12:30 AM BST
nadal looks nervous also
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:32 AM BST
Yeah, he does. Better from Fed now too. Hmmm.
Report caramba August 17, 2013 12:34 AM BST
Fed often starts well against Rafa, only to fall apart eventually.
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 12:35 AM BST
true dat
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 12:39 AM BST
borefest
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 12:40 AM BST
Federer has always been boring.
Report Sank August 17, 2013 12:40 AM BST
nadal with some backhand errors because fed playing him balls almost to that backhand side
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:40 AM BST
Lots of UEs from Nadal though.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 12:40 AM BST
not as boring as Djokovic though.
Report Gurubashi August 17, 2013 12:42 AM BST
Has Fed gone back to his old racket?
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:42 AM BST
Comm said he has.
Report caramba August 17, 2013 12:49 AM BST
Fed in GOATmode on that point, but I doubt he can keep it up.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:50 AM BST
That's good stuff from Fed. But Nadal holds.
Report CaliforniaHereWeCome. August 17, 2013 12:51 AM BST
yep racket its the old one
Report caramba August 17, 2013 12:54 AM BST
way to waste your last challenge, Rafa!
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:55 AM BST
Nadal is in 2nd gear, and Fed is cruising in about 4th. Close.
Report The Bhoys August 17, 2013 12:55 AM BST
nadals not playing well here im hoping he wakes up soon
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 12:58 AM BST
WOw! Laugh Amazing scenes.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 12:58 AM BST
Worst bet you could place now is a bet on Federer at 6-5.
Report Sank August 17, 2013 12:59 AM BST
i ve just made my first bet on nadal, hope he can bounce back
Report frawesome August 17, 2013 12:59 AM BST
roger follows bookmakers odds. He would have been upset at being over 4s
Report RMB © August 17, 2013 12:59 AM BST
Market getting punished here.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:01 AM BST
Fed is putting a lot of balls to the Nadal backhand. It's working for once.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:02 AM BST
Don't ignore the fact that Nadal has the second best record, as favourite, at winning from a set down in the top 50 players.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:03 AM BST
Federer's odds, from his starting odds, should be 1.9s now.
Report CaliforniaHereWeCome. August 17, 2013 1:04 AM BST
old times bh ... good old times...
Report RMB © August 17, 2013 1:04 AM BST
Market suddenly cottoned on to Wafa not being fully motivated.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:05 AM BST
I would put him at 1.75
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:05 AM BST
yep u r right odds should be around 1.9
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:06 AM BST
starting odds mean nothing once the game starts, so if Nadal lose a leg you are going to say that he should still be 1.90?
Report The Bhoys August 17, 2013 1:07 AM BST
seriously think feds backhand guna take an all mighty beating now
Report brain dead jockeys August 17, 2013 1:09 AM BST
rafa will want this title knowing the big two are out
Report tobermory August 17, 2013 1:11 AM BST
Fed won't want it though Confused
Report frawesome August 17, 2013 1:12 AM BST
if rafa is fully motivated, roger wanting the title would not make any difference. rafa never loses a match if he wants to win
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Very poor game from Fed.
Report shiraz August 17, 2013 1:13 AM BST
teo813 wrote..."starting odds mean nothing once the game starts,"


You may want to think about that a bit more.
Report villeneuve August 17, 2013 1:14 AM BST
how many ue and winners, after first set ?i missed the, thanks
Report villeneuve August 17, 2013 1:14 AM BST
how many ue and winners, after first set ?i missed the, thanks
Report Howdi August 17, 2013 1:15 AM BST
wake up raf ffs
Report Howdi August 17, 2013 1:16 AM BST
score here?
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:17 AM BST
actually not shiraz, it is wrong to trade the market in-play based on the starting odds, (un)fortunately very few understand why
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:18 AM BST
wasted ffs
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Poor again from Nadal.
Report sofiakenny August 17, 2013 1:20 AM BST
no one cares..some numpty like berdy will pik up a trophy..zzzz
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:22 AM BST
presumably on that basis, teo, a player who starts the first set at 1.4 and wins 6-0 should be exactly the same odds as a player who starts the first set at 1.9 and wins 6-0 in the first set.
Report CaliforniaHereWeCome. August 17, 2013 1:24 AM BST
yep but maybe you dont know that betfair bots and operators that manipulate the market KNOW where the odds have to fall to red out other bettors....
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 1:27 AM BST
well planned mugging scheme by the cincy organisers
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 1:27 AM BST
i got robbed
Report Howdi August 17, 2013 1:27 AM BST
finnish it
Report Howdi August 17, 2013 1:28 AM BST
where are we now?
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:29 AM BST
come on u **** espanola
Report Howdi August 17, 2013 1:29 AM BST
Plain
Report shiraz August 17, 2013 1:30 AM BST
Think what you like teo813, but the prematch markets have hours and hours to be set and are extremely accurate. 
The in play markets can represent "value" because the market has so little time to correct itself.
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:30 AM BST
It shouldnt SoA but sometimes it happens and there is a reason for that.
I just mean that you cant trade the market based 100% on maths and you all know it, especially in tennis which is a game between two individuals.

Starting odds mean a lot more in team games like basketball, cricket etc
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:31 AM BST
Starting odds mean very little in cricket. In tennis, the profit line almost exactly matches the probability line on a graph of odds v results, so I would say that tennis is the most accurately priced sport.
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:32 AM BST
Happy
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:36 AM BST
I really hope you are joking saying that tennis is the most accurately priced sport.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:38 AM BST
Nadal going to take this set?
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:41 AM BST
Stepping it up.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:43 AM BST
15-30 point was too defensive.
Report shiraz August 17, 2013 1:43 AM BST
I don't know about other sports, but pre match ATP H2H markets are extremely accurate.
Report caramba August 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
set point!
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
now take it
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:45 AM BST
yawn
Report Sank August 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
sweeeet
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 1:46 AM BST
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
I did warn you about Nadal's record.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:47 AM BST
Evens was pretty big at set point given 1.35 starting prices.
Report teo813 August 17, 2013 1:48 AM BST
caramba • August 17, 2013 12:34 AM BST
Fed often starts well against Rafa, only to fall apart eventually.


Love
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:51 AM BST
Nadal's nervousness is gone; Fed's is about to ramp up...
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 1:58 AM BST
...and multiple errors later, it's Nadal 3-0.
Report CaliforniaHereWeCome. August 17, 2013 2:00 AM BST
just unlucky on that 30-30 fed on 2nd set, 4all, but today's roger is far the better of last months, and competitive as he's been ever against rafa (10-20H2H)
Report caramba August 17, 2013 2:00 AM BST
These Cincinnati people hate kissing.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 2:02 AM BST
Wow, brilliant from both.
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:04 AM BST
got my money back that mugray cost me
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:04 AM BST
federer`s cincy run is over soon
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 2:05 AM BST
The line judges here are amazing.
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:06 AM BST
thanks to rafa i got my money back im green 336£ both ways hehehehe
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:06 AM BST
lost 310£ to mugray
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 2:11 AM BST
Rafa Grin
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 2:14 AM BST
A little muggish from Nadal. Bad challenge/play stoppage, then two points he should have put away...
Report sexycystever August 17, 2013 2:24 AM BST
??
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:27 AM BST
well done nadal u supreme money machine for me hehehehe
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? August 17, 2013 2:29 AM BST
Now for Wozniacki v Screamy Banshee
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:31 AM BST
if azarenka plays to potential wozniacki does not have the fire power to compete.
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:31 AM BST
isner vs delpo my guess is isner will prevail, berdych vs rafa rafa will win. final rafa vs isner.
Report GWB_III August 17, 2013 2:33 AM BST
That's a brave call, Delpo matched at 1.5-1.6.
Report vector_99 August 17, 2013 2:36 AM BST
there will be a bit of crowd pleasing too people want to see their own guy in finals, milos reached montreal finals while isner will reach cincy finals but will lose to rafa like milos did.
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