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Rafa - The Greatest Tennis Player of All Time!!!
Rafa - The Greatest Tennis Player of All Time!!!
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Pretty good logic. But there's something missing in it. No1e has fans worldwide.
 He is the best player on Planet for last 3 years already! And at least another 3 ones to come. Are you from Serbia? |
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I am from the Australian desert ffs
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though Nadull worshippers knew he was way off his best they expected him to ease through early rounds and smash Fed, what an insult
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 taht's right. Not everyone can be a GOAT. There's only one. Certainly he did not LOSE today!  A GOAT never loses to a noname in teh first round of the Majors! |
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yeah goat only loses to nadal
darcis was defo far more trouble for nadal today fed would be  |
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kubot will own steve next round
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i'm backing Mugbot
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On clay he is the GOAT by miles. On other surfaces, just in the top 10
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Rafa did not defend the 10 points from last year. Can Nadal finish the year number 1 uncle Toni ?
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bb66 24 Jun 13 19:17
bye bye, pls retire so we get rid of this pathetic topic, he's just a 1 surface player like Errani Dear oh dear |
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I love some Nadal bashing as much as the next person but I think bb takes it a bit too far
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I have had a change of heart, I got it wrong with fed. the GOAT is Nadal,if he doesn't catch feds record he will only be short by 1 or 2...
6/1 us open with slybet was just damn right silly |
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there are many more records from Fed Nadull won't come even Close, but it's not only the records that make Fed the GOAT
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nadal is the greatest modern player of all time.
the slam count is close enough now, for the other factors to swing the balance in nadal's favour. 1. Nadal's H2H against Federer. 2. Nadal beating Federer on grass to Wimbledon; Federer never beating Nadal in RG. 3. As a corollary, Nadal's constant development. Dirtball, to hard court, to grass, always adding a little bit here and there. Even at the US this year, Nadal going to djokovic's fh so much more, to counter the edge novak got when he dominated him on clay in 2011 mainly through hitting Nadal's xcourt fh early with his bh. Nadal has been beating Federer in exactly the same manner for almost a decade and Federer has done NOTHING to adapt. 4. Nadal's big point play and ability to raise his intensity at will. Federer will always remain easier on the eye, and his maulings more beautifully destructive, but Nadal is, for me, unquestionably the greatest player of the modern era. |
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Federer will always remain easier on the eye, and his maulings more beautifully destructive..
Yes I like that analysis,says it all about the fed. When you look at novak he hates the wind,his smash volley is mediocre, compare that with Nadal,not sure he has any weakness, he has the lot. |
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On clay he is the GOAT by miles. On other surfaces, just in the top 10 Completly agree with that, only on clay |
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"and his maulings more beautifully destructive".....yes, his maulings of Philippoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Roddick, Gonzalez, an ageing Agassi, etc. Federer was so superior to everyone else during his period of dominance (2003-2007)that he was able to hoover up the majors with relative ease. If he had been an exact contemporary of Nadal and Djokovic he would never have passed Sampras's total of 14. The most talented player I've ever seen without question, but the GOAT?
Head-to-head stats don't lie, and Nadal's superiority over his closest rivals (21-10 Federer, 22-15 Djokovic, 13-5 Murray) surely entitle him to be considered the GOAT. |
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Rafa fan here but im not biased.
Right now Federer is the goat period. But Rafa is closing in. Ive read all posts here and some people have their blinders on they dont care about facts or choose some facts to prove they are right. I like the post about rafa needs to win more HC. Why? Sampras was the goat before Federer and he sucked on clay, so he got to be that goar without a carrer slam, hummm. So it must of been by numbers. So rafa needs 17 to equal Federer and nulify that category. With this unexpected US Open and baring any injury this number is within reach. 2016 or 2017 he may reach this. |
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Instead of discusting facts and numbers, why dont we post here a Top10 categories of what should be consider for GOATS.
1- GRANDSLAM TITLES. ( No brainer) 2- Weeks nº1 ( i wanted to put career grandslam 2nd because i feel feds 300 while impressive didnt have the names its does now, its not feds fault for lack competion, but rafa and noles 100 in a big 4 era is more important them feds 1st 100 weeks. 3- Carrer Golden Slam ( Agassi and Rafa own this) 4- Gold Medal 5- H2H (because we are comparing these 2 it should factor in) 6-Atp Masters1000 ( rafa onws this and Fed might have 1 or 2 tops. Dont see nole or Murray anywhere close) 7- World tour finals( Fed rules here but always indor and hc or carpet plus look at the finalist, grosjea, davydenko, blake ferrer) 8- Davis cup ( rafa rules this one) 9- Finished year nº1 Fed leads this one I didnt put titles, money, wins because they are still active, so comparing those is pointless until the end their carrers. I would like to read you guys top10 and why. |
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H2H comes above a gold medal.fed has a gold medal
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Yes he does, but its a doubles gold medal, not taking anything from Fed, mas singles is one thing and doubles is another story.
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just another mug, struggling with Giraldo
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10 - Having a cow donated from tournament organizers.
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backed @ 1.001
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Head-to-head stats don't lie, and Nadal's superiority over his closest rivals (21-10 Federer, 22-15 Djokovic, 13-5 Murray) surely entitle him to be considered the GOAT. 5-0 h2h v giraldo just confirms the GOAT tag even more.
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there are two requirements for the GOAT
1. career slam 2. most grand slam wins at the moment fed is the GOAT its as simple as that. what annoys me about the rafa doubters is their bias against him for being so successful on clay. every discussion is like this "clay goat, no doubt but not goat".........if he had 8 wimbledons, 2 french, 2 USO and 1 AUS they would not say "grass goat yes, but......."............. fed is not as good on grass as nadal is on clay. |
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Rafael Nadal, the only man in history to win a grand slam in 9 consecutive years.
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what a piss poor record
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Just waiting for his next sudden loss and exit...?!? Only matter of time.
He is the MOAT (Misterious of all time). |
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In Fact Number of years occupying World #1 place is the most important achievement in tennis. GS were not as important before Federer's era. Then some media driven by powerful sponsors started counting them...
The same media discounted Years as Number one and implemented Weeks as Number one??  Q: Since when a week is greater than Year? A: since Roger Federer had more weeks as #1 than Sampras! (Sampras has more years as #1...but who cares about Years!!... ). |
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"GS were not as important before Federer's era"
one of the dumbest statements i have ever heard. you can come second in 20 tournaments a year and be ranked no 1. it means nothing. winning titles is what matters. ask darina safin. |
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walking advert for doping
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is he a better player than borg? or sampras? you can`t compare times, so who knows who the best player is.
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he is certainly a better player than sampras.
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still some Lance Armstrong fans out there nice maybe the best ever was someone playing with a wooden racket in the 1880s - who knows what borg or however could have done with todays rackets/strings/shoes/doping/medicine whatever
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