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DStyle
03 Jun 13 20:56
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2-4 h2h for kuz, with both wins on the clay.

williams is even money against good kuz on clay.

in fact i'd go as far to say that she's the only person realistically between serena and the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen.

good kuz, the double slam winning good kuz, is between 5 and 6 to 1 to turn up.

prematch serena is about right. a tick or two short.

however if you can guage it quickly enough tomorrow, there's a big big prize on offer.

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By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:03
isnt h2h 6-2 for williams and 1-1 on clay Confused
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:04
serena won in rome 2004 and kuzzy won in stutgart2007 being indoor hard court
By:
aaronh
When: 03 Jun 13 21:05
DStyle probably fooled by that muggy WTA site
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:06
43/2009 WTA Doha (QAT)    Hard    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    7-6(6) 7-5    [Stats]     Robin    1.56    -    2.4   
21/2009 WTA French Open (FRA)    Clay    Svetlana Kuznetsova    Serena Williams    7-6(3) 5-7 7-5    [Stats]     1/4    1.99    -    1.8   
3/2009 WTA Australian Open (AUS)    Hard    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    5-7 7-5 6-1    [Stats]     1/4    1.31    -    3.41   
13/2008 WTA Miami (USA)    Hard    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    3-6 7-5 6-3    [Stats]     1/2    1.5    -    2.55   
41/2007 WTA Moscow (RUS)    I_Hard    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    7-6(2) 6-1    [Stats]     1/2    1.99    -    1.8   
40/2007 WTA Stuttgart (GER)    I_Hard    Svetlana Kuznetsova    Serena Williams    6-3 6-3    [Stats]     1/4    2.42    -    1.55   
38/2004 WTA Beijing (CHN)    Hard    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    4-6 7-5 6-4         Final                  
19/2004 WTA Rome (ITA)    Clay    Serena Williams    Svetlana Kuznetsova    7-5 6-0         1/4
By:
aaronh
When: 03 Jun 13 21:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVmHmLhTlCs
By:
wasu
When: 03 Jun 13 21:06
failed his homework assignment Wink
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:07
It could be a train but who the f is backing the current price.
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:07
this kuzzy is not the one kuzzy thou and serena seems to be playing smarter than ever
By:
aaronh
When: 03 Jun 13 21:08
Sveta can still play excellent on the odd occasion. She went 4-1 up on Vika in Melbourne before Vika fought back Cool
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:08
Yer but 1.06 is a joke whatever way you look at it. Serena will be probably double that vs Aga/Errani. Who has more chance Kuznetsova or Aga/Errani?
By:
wasu
When: 03 Jun 13 21:09
still 1.06 is no price to back Serena.

problem is that Serena looks like she's on a mission (or just in love?)
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:09
but i hope it will be as  close as they used to play in past, maybe seing serena there she will automaticly get the level form the 200x
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:10
Nadal was 1.06 today ffs. This price is madness.
By:
noadis
When: 03 Jun 13 21:10
Dstyle wot you up to, normally infallible?
By:
jin_kazz
When: 03 Jun 13 21:11
1.06 is a lay for me
By:
jin_kazz
When: 03 Jun 13 21:11
sveta gonna fight good tomorrow
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:12
1.06 is suggesting it's going to be like 6-1, 6-2 job. I think it will be close than that. Market has bought too much into the no-one can stop Serena imo.
By:
aaronh
When: 03 Jun 13 21:12
wasn't watching when this match happened

Sveta got took to a 3rd from set and 4-1 ffs Surprised
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:15
just watching clip arong posted and what strikes me straight away that kuzzy was much quicker back then
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:17
Kuznetsova is one of the few players who when on (a big if I know) is very tactically astute and can tactically outsmart Serena especially on this court.
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Jun 13 21:17
oopsadonks.

i'd filtered out stuff before 2006 and joined in stuttgart as a clay court, as it is now rather than what it was.

my point still stands though.

she's the only girl left in the draw who can conceivably beat her if she's playing well and i maintain that if the signs are there, it's a lay on serena to run to the end of the match rather than one to trade.

it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if she beat her and then played like a clown against rad (who will beat errani i suspect) going down 1 and 2.
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Jun 13 21:19
n88uk 03 Jun 13 21:17 
Kuznetsova is one of the few players who when on (a big if I know) is very tactically astute and can tactically outsmart Serena especially on this court.


and she's completely untroubled by the weight of shot as well.
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:21
I honestly think Kuznetsova has far more chances of winning than Kirilenko does. Yet Serena is 1.06 and Azarenka is 1.2 (a price I think is value).
By:
noadis
When: 03 Jun 13 21:22
Serena will probably do her but 1.07 you gotta be nuts to back that, surely?
By:
;[p
When: 03 Jun 13 21:23
kuzzy advantage is that she is not being intimidated by serena and thats huge factor as well
By:
n88uk
When: 03 Jun 13 21:24
Kuznetsova also doesn't have a serve which is just batting practice for Serena.
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Jun 13 21:27
always been kuz and aza who are the only two capable of giving serena a good game if she's playing well (along with the two belgians when they were still active).

masha doesn't move well enough, everyone else is overpowered.
By:
lurka
When: 03 Jun 13 21:39
their matches seem to have very tight sets, hope that continues. SW has only dropped 10 games in 4 rounds, so i'll wait to see how it starts. Hopefully we'll see 1.01 gubbed!
By:
jin_kazz
When: 03 Jun 13 21:39
what a match it was @ garros 2009

wow
By:
VonWafer
When: 04 Jun 13 09:33
Yeah remember that one, also remember tipping Kuz for the upset, even tho the majority crowd back then thought I was nuts....

Anyway, Kuz of then isn't the one now, the one now is just too mentally frail and thinks shes lucky to be here as opposed to "this is where i should always be"....

But this is not a 6-2 6-2 affair so 1.07 is an automatic lay for me, Predict Serena to hit the 1.7's/ evens mark...
By:
lurka
When: 04 Jun 13 10:42
you can get a better price backing kuz. drifted to 17/17.5 currently
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jun 13 11:02
I would guess my lay @ 1.06 has been matched then now. Of course I can't check to see right now Plain.
By:
DStyle
When: 04 Jun 13 11:29
some recent serena prices:

18/5 Halep 1.07
17/5 Fred West 1.07
16/5 Cibulkova 1.08
14/5 Laura Facking Robson 1.12 Laugh
12/5 Sharapova 1.53(who is 0-13 against her since 2005) Shocked
10/5 Errani 1.22
09/5 Kirilenko 1.09
07/4 Jankovic 1.09
05/4 Safarova 1.12
30/3 Sharapova 1.37
29/03 Rad 1.24
26/03 Li 1.30
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jun 13 11:43
Is there anyone who is actually just backing this, because everyone on here seems to say it's too short, yet the price isn't moving upwards, so that can't be the general consensus.

And yer my 1.06 lay got matched. Serena now 1.05 ffs. That is a disgrace. I thought I'd be lucky to get my 1.06 lay matched, and I could have held out for better.
By:
madverassocks
When: 04 Jun 13 11:47
Prob could wait until Serena is 2-0 ahead then lay at 1.03. I would love to see Kuzzy trouble her and maybe even win a set but unfortunately Serena has looked unstoppable for a fair while and this will prob just be another demolition job.
By:
DStyle
When: 04 Jun 13 11:48
i'm now waiting to be matched....
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jun 13 11:49
I would have moved my money, but by the time I spotted the downward trend of course Betfair had gone down.
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jun 13 11:50

Jun 4, 2013 -- 11:47AM, madverassocks wrote:


Prob could wait until Serena is 2-0 ahead then lay at 1.03. I would love to see Kuzzy trouble her and maybe even win a set but unfortunately Serena has looked unstoppable for a fair while and this will prob just be another demolition job.


But what if Serena doesn't go 2-0 ahead?

By:
madverassocks
When: 04 Jun 13 11:55

Jun 4, 2013 -- 11:50AM, n88uk wrote:


Jun  4, 2013 -- 11:47AM, madverassocks wrote:Prob could wait until Serena is 2-0 ahead then lay at 1.03. I would love to see Kuzzy trouble her and maybe even win a set but unfortunately Serena has looked unstoppable for a fair while and this will prob just be another demolition job.But what if Serena doesn't go 2-0 ahead?


Then it will be great as we could just have a match on our hands

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