yeah and how he destroyed agassi in the final

i had to laugh at some of the comments on here when murray was down, so pathetic u hate him so much, glad he won

I don't hate him at all

I'm just very disappointed with how he had developed, how mentally fragile he is, how he plays compared to the cavalier, imaginative stuff he played in his early days

I want him to 'click' mentally, to come on court bristling with intent and to have his opponents defeated before a ball is hit, like Federer did at his peak, to serve very well all the time, to step in and take the ball early, approach the net for put away vollies far more often when his opponent does a defensive retrieval shot and to raise his game above the mundane ball bashing and scrambling

I want him to take his chances, to not get broken back after breaking, to put matches away easily when leading by heer mental will and domination. How many times has he lost when he had match point, do you know? 18 times in his pro career. That is bollox

But I'm frustrated because he won't do any of that

It's true he is a slow starter and he has to work on that, but for the 18 match points he has had, can you list every match, I bet most were in his early career, and what are the stats for the other top 3 throughout their careers, lets see how they match up.
Although the %'s on his service game needs improving his return stats are v good

in 2013

murray is 3rd on the  'break points converted' list ahead of the other big 3
murray is joing 4th with nadal on return games won
murray is joint 3rd on 'Points won returning first serve'

Today's match had many breaks because Ferrer is the best returner in the game, murray probably actually returns more balls over the net, but ferrer is more clinical, it was not a great shock.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to mental fragility, that's an over exaggeration he's got a lot of bottle, like at last years aussie open final. 
I think lendal has had a good effect on him, he no longer loses his rage on court half as much as he used to exuding negative energy plus he doesn't look up to he team as much for help, he can be better but this was a masters against ferrer, all he cares about are slams against the big three and if you look at his recent slam record - finalist, winner, finalist, quarters, finalist, semi, semi, semi, fianlist, it's not to shabby by anyone's standard.

most English people hate him because they think he is anti English and miserable dour scot, but anyone that follows tennis knows he is not like that and probably only tune in to tennis two weeks a a year when its fashionable, that whole Paraguayan shirt thing was an obvious joke.

By the way that cavalier attitude didn't win him slams in his early career

I take it that was to Janowicz in Paris where he tanked like all the other top players did in prep for London.

To Raonic in Tokyo - the very best server in the game

And to Djokovic

All on their serve no doubt.


You have a point though he needs to start matches better, that's his weakness.

Yes he was very lucky to take 3 sets of the world number 1, and beat federer in 3 straight sets at the olympics, come on now.

Compare with Nadal for example - hard as nails mentally

yes the same nadal that lost 7 finals in a row to djokovic where he took the first set 3 times and lost the next two, it happens.

what a weird final

murray can only play 3 sets of tennis these days? he was acting like he can die any moment

what was that ffs?

i thought that it was something like +25c

what was the temp?

think it could be a case of not getting enough rest between points, now that the 25 second tennis is being enforced. I can't find any other explanation for how a guy a like Ferrer, who are perhaps the fittest guy on tour, could barely stand up in the end.
As has been pointed out 2 hrs 45 min doesn't sound that long, especially when we consider the 5-6 hr battles in GS finals we've seen the past years, but getting the opportunity to rest between helps the body to recover and if players don't get that rest, we end up with situations like the one yesterday for longer matches with lots of long rallies.

No, but one of the more physical ones. In a match with shorter rallies, the rule probably doesn't make much difference, but in a match like yesterday I'd think it's more important for players to have more time to recover between points.
I'm not saying this is the case for sure since I don't really know, but I'm trying to find an explanation for what we saw yesterday. And it was both players who were completely exhausted. I've never seen Ferrer like this and Murray has played 4-5 hr long matches without being this tired.

Britain rules the waves...

Well done Andy Murray..

British bulldog...