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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:09

Qualifiers really have it better here and Miami than anywhere else. I mean they can't play anyone in the top 32 in the world. So they have a decent chance round 1. Look at some of the players the qualifiers play, mainly mugs or out of form players. In somewhere like Dubai, qualifiers face mission impossible from the off most likely.

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Darlo Bantam When: 05 Mar 13 01:09

Maybe it's just the matches I've seen, but Misaki Doi and Coco both out, Alexa Glatch out to a wildcard and Vogele struggled against another unknown.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:09

That Tomljanovic is a fighter. I noticed a match of hers a few days ago where she came back from the dead I think.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:10

9/2013 WTA Acapulco (MEX) Clay Irina-Camelia Begu Ajla Tomljanovic 6-2 3-6 7-5

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:10

the pack is quite tight ,market making someone fav doesnt mean there is actually that big gap between players, and also new tournamnet first match.... many factors,matches usually decided on details

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swedsill When: 05 Mar 13 01:11

Dolonc to win now from 1-6 1-4* 3040

couldnt lay 1.13 on bp there, amazing, really.

betfair need to do something to get some punters over here, now.

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:11

Coco did not surprise me at all. She has been garbage all year, has a terrible attitude, and can lose to anyone etc. Glatch wasn't even favourite to win her match. Doi vs MLDB always looked pretty much 50:50. Voegele yes.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:11

I_Hard Ajla Tomljanovic Mallory Burdette 7-5 6-0
I_Hard Ajla Tomljanovic Olga Puchkova 6-1 6-4

Got the tools to beat Glatch

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Darlo Bantam When: 05 Mar 13 01:11

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:10AM, ;[p wrote:

the pack is quite tight ,market making someone fav doesnt mean there is actually that big gap between players, and also new tournamnet first match.... many factors,matches usually decided on details

If I had the time, energy and enthusiasm for it, I'd input matches to create some sort of ELO ratings for tennis. Think you might be right about the tight packing and I'm sure it could throw up some real discrepancies in the true odds and odds on offer.

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:12

voegle played fairly unknown but young talented player i knew it wont be easy like marked thought it be

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Srichaphan or Ancic? When: 05 Mar 13 01:12

Darlo Bantam, that's what my tennis scheme is sort of based on.

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jin_kazz When: 05 Mar 13 01:12

now burdette is a toast my friends

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jin_kazz When: 05 Mar 13 01:12

hope you didn't miss jana's train

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:13

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:12AM, ;[p wrote:

voegle played fairly unknown but young talented player i knew it wont be easy like marked thought it be

and i for example know this player as i saw her at wimbledon junirs and she catched my eye

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:13

There is also as ;]p says. The odds are pretty much solely on ranking and form. If you know something others don't - say have seen some unknown play lots before you may have a big edge.

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Birchola When: 05 Mar 13 01:13

How long have the scoreboards been 2 points behind. Were never this bad a few years ago.

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:14

*;[p

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Darlo Bantam When: 05 Mar 13 01:14

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:12AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:

Darlo Bantam, that's what my tennis scheme is sort of based on.

To me, it's an obvious system, though may have to be tailored for surfaces. But while my current strategy makes money, I don't have the energy to carry out what is surely a huge undertaking.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:15

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:13AM, n88uk wrote:

There is also as ;]p says. The odds are pretty much solely on ranking and form. If you know something others don't - say have seen some unknown play lots before you may have a big edge.

You don't even have to see a lot of an unknown sometimes. When Kerber went on her meteoric rise a little over a year ago the markets took a very long time to stop pricing her up like an average #50 ranked player when she was playing top 10 tennis.

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:15

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:13AM, n88uk wrote:

There is also as ;]p says. The odds are pretty much solely on ranking and form. If you know something others don't - say have seen some unknown play lots before you may have a big edge.

thats why i will be staying at wimbers whole juniors week this year, so many players i spotted and now they do well, quite profitable as market usually clueless, and for a reason

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Darlo Bantam When: 05 Mar 13 01:15

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:15AM, smb360 wrote:

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:13AM, n88uk wrote:There is also as ;]p says. The odds are pretty much solely on ranking and form. If you know something others don't - say have seen some unknown play lots before you may have a big edge.You don't even have to see a lot of an unknown sometimes. When Kerber went on her meteoric rise a little over a year ago the markets took a very long time to stop pricing her up like an average #50 ranked player when she was playing top 10 tennis.

It was incredible. And the same markets seem to be taking just as long now to work out she's in a rut at the moment.

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Birchola When: 05 Mar 13 01:16

Mug Dolonc market well and truly punished.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:16

3/1 against Woz in Copenhagen iirc - and that was after she had been playing brilliantly for months and battering people like Bartoli

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:16

well its always like that if you know player quite well and can recognize their potential anfd form you will have succes

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:17

chink

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:17

For example in Brazil last week. There was 16 year old Brazilian vs some other no-name, like 200 and something vs 400 and something in the world. The higher ranked was priced around 1.25, but got thoroughly outplayed and lost easily. If you'd ever seen them play, or knew what there level was like you would have been on to a gold mine.

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smb360 When: 05 Mar 13 01:17

Bartoli in Paris final no less

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Darlo Bantam When: 05 Mar 13 01:17

Dolonc market would and should really be licking its wounds right now, but with only £250,000 matched, that is one really punishment slightly avoided.

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Srichaphan or Ancic? When: 05 Mar 13 01:18

Cepelova throwing it now.

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:19

take set czink

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Srichaphan or Ancic? When: 05 Mar 13 01:19

she's had her two games on the trot, thats enough for the day.

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jin_kazz When: 05 Mar 13 01:19

Mar 5, 2013 -- 1:17AM, n88uk wrote:

For example in Brazil last week. There was 16 year old Brazilian vs some other no-name, like 200 and something vs 400 and something in the world. The higher ranked was priced around 1.25, but got thoroughly outplayed and lost easily. If you'd ever seen them play, or knew what there level was like you would have been on to a gold mine.

haddad maia played great tennis and she deserved to win

she's an upcoming top100

if you see her playing then you'd back her in those matches

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:19

i did

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:19

Yer jumping on peoples rises and declines is also the way. You were able to lay Wozniacki at all sorts of crazy prices vs various players last year.

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swedsill When: 05 Mar 13 01:20

right, and the courtsider took both 1.16 5k and most of the 3k someone left on 1.29. Im not even sure he s red on this, thanx to that and som 2.0ish he steel

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;[p When: 05 Mar 13 01:20

melinda ffs finish it

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Birchola When: 05 Mar 13 01:21

Danilidou a huge price.

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aaronh When: 05 Mar 13 01:21

Not Before 4:00 PM
Qualifying - K Pliskova (CZE) vs O Puchkova (RUS) - WTA - TBA

it like 5.20PM and Zheng/Forest finish ages ago. ffs

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Charlesaf When: 05 Mar 13 01:21

Czink

Probably getting moonball'd to death.

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n88uk When: 05 Mar 13 01:21

Yes that was my point jin_kazz exactly. I had never seen her play before though, and the market clearly hadn't either, and was just guessing a price based on ranking. If you'd known there levels you could have made a lot on that match.