Rebecca Marino retires from tennis aged 22

Its exactly what you expect from aaronh, he is very bitter.



and a bit of a hypocrite.



pot, kettle, black

Let's all forget about the past for at least a moment and just

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAIwU5i3euI

On a somewhat related note: I made my very own nut butter recently. That means I'm finally independent from the evil, imperialistic food industry that tries to poison us all and make us sick with their masses of sugar, additives and hydrogenated fats, baby!!

Those earthdance hippies would be so very proud of me.

did you put any horse in it?

I heard Diego wanted to organize one in Dubai just so he could grope Woz some more.

phew. and what kind of nuts?

i'm being serious edy i would really like to know what particular nuts you used in the butter. may be tomorrow

Are you taking the piss? I didn't want anybody to be interested in that when I said it.

Anyway, as a first try I used almonds with a bit of sunflower oil It's piss easy to do, has no transfats, no evil added sugars, no undeclared horse meat either as you already know.

Next I'm gonna do cashews or walnuts Or if I'm in rebel mood.....maybe a mix

sorry not a nuts  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V58yjbsA2iY

bloody finally

I knew about cashews and peanuts, but even almonds and walnuts are nuts?

Wikipedia tells me a walnut is very much a nut, even in botanical sense. That singing cat is a wannabe no-nothing!

yes but you wasn't using walnuts now were you. slandering off the industry that out of the kindness of it's heart fattened us all these years while you are selling us half truths about your product huh

In a culinary sense an almond is a nut too! We're talking about food so the culinary definition is the one that really counts, isn't it?

Still, thank you for always driving me to educate myself. I even still remember the Virgin Mary sightings in Lourdes you sneakily taught me about through a joke the other week

You so smart sexy bbs!

excuses excuses. never thought i could educate you on such simple subject matter   pretty cool though, you making this yourself. i am actually interested   the unwholy supermarkets around here, due to demand of wholesome products or anything that justifies a "bio" label (blame people from san fransisco i suppose) are now selling organic peanutbutter. still loads of things in there that don't belong there but at least without the binders and not being ground down to babyfood, the "nut" separates from the oil in it and everything and you have to stir it before you eat like i remember from early childhood. pretty darn tasty, haven't eaten this much peanutbutter in ages

by blame i mean thank, for the first time in forever you can now get tomatoes in local supermarkt that actually resemble tomatoes for instance
road to poorhouse bying veggies but progress is progress
i can cook up a mean tomato soup btw if i say so myself, Italians would be proud, shame you can't taste trough internet

Entirely disagree. If you bet on someone who doesnt seem bothered to put in any effort, or gives up on the match, or cheats, or does something that could be counted as unprofessional, why should you not tell them what you think? Why should they, as a professional athlete be allowed to escape the fact that what they do on the court does not just influence themselves, that it does affect people who gamble, it does spoil the match for the crowd that has paid to see it. If these players want to avoid criticism, go out there on the court each and every match and play as if you want to win. Do that, which is what is expected from a professional athlete, and you won't get nasty comments on social media sites. If you aren't prepared to act as a professional sportsperson, then don't use social media sites because you are guaranteed to get comments that are not nice.

this is one of the most disgraceful posts i have ever read on here.

the irony is that it comes from a pompous fool who constantly threatens to report people for cyber bullying if they bring up the iranian shirtless men incident.

what sort of crazy deluded world does this idiot live in to believe that sportsmen should put in an unwavering amount of effort so that gamblers' lives are made easier? variable effort and intensity are attributes of a player in the same way their forehand and serve are. you cannot ignore them and then claim it's the player's fault when you did.

but worse still, so much more worse, is what sort of wicked, vindicative coward believes that intimidating harassment on social media sites is an appropriate and condonable response to their own misjudgement?

passing off such vile nonsense under the pathetic construct of a justified argument is reprehensible in the extreme.

excellent post Dstyle

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/12/english-boxer-curtis-woodhouse-twitter-troll

When sports stars get their revenge against trolls

I can't stand twitter, but those tweets at the bottom detailing how it all went down are hilarious.

and smb, I'd be careful about saying rude things about Wozniacki, such as 9 year old girl hitting more winners in 3 minutes than Woz in her whole career, from now on:
http://static.tvazteca.com/imagenes/2011/25/Wozniacki-Boxing-915277.jpg

She is below my weight category, I'll be fine

Srichaphan or Ancic?     03 May 13 02:30
May 3, 2013 -- 12:58AM, hollywood85 wrote:

A. Pavlyuchenkova ‏@NastiaPav 7 hGetting treatment, trying to recover after our 2h45 match thanks 2 my frnd Elena! Uff but happy to win 76 in the 3rd! Great match!

Liposuction?

Showing your class again

that was bad

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Let him know what you think.. https://twitter.com/andy_murray

Srichaphan or Ancic at it again, yet is the very first one to cry to betfair when an infamous google search is brought up

"let him know what you think". Oh dear how will Murray cope

infamous google search? whats this ive only really been postng this year what have i missed

http://wtabetting.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/iranian-shirtless-men.html

Article on cyber bullying:
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/06/tennis_
gambling_why_sports_bettors_target_tennis_players_on_twitter.html

SorA coming along to justify it in 3,2,1...

appalling quotes from sad people as per usual

but this bit made me smile
"I've had to try my best to kind of bite my tongue a couple times, because I've gotten messages after Challenger doubles matches," says Smyczek, laughing. "And what kind of—who bets on that sort of thing?"

I also liked the bit where some player said he took it as a compliment that someone would bet on him.

Jun 5, 2013 -- 7:26PM, nofx wrote:

appalling quotes from sad people as per usualbut this bit made me smile"I've had to try my best to kind of bite my tongue a couple times, because I've gotten messages after Challenger doubles matches," says Smyczek, laughing. "And what kind of—who bets on that sort of thing?"

I had an argument with that guy

was some argentine mug

Diego?

  good collection of thugs diego has on his twiter photo page. chavez.., maduro.., the pope.., cristiano ronaldo...

remember how he's send his lookalike to some soccerbal match, clear proof he has one there. pretty rude that he send him to meet messi!

real diego
https://twitter.com/Cristiano/status/308195474924507136/photo/1
https://twitter.com/DiegoAMaradona/status/307038472739381248/photo/1

hired diego
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BF7AtXWCAAA5aPr.jpg

Seeing two great sports. @ RafaelNadal and Roger. I ask the crack of @ DjokerNole who will win.
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    Diego Maradona Diego Maradona @ DiegoAMaradona 15 May

Look everyone has issues growing up, even the best of them today like pova and williamses, how often do we see them use a press conference twice in 8 months to tell everyone about it?
This girl annoying to say the least, doesnt she have anyone talking to her, you know advice and stuff???
She WILL be back in a year or so playing challengers and futures again, and then another press conference about how she is not happy with her life, well who does not have those feelings every other month sometimes??? f**k sake!
If u cant stand what strangers who will mean nothing to you or your life post online, get off line!
If u cant handle comments directed at you (like they are at everyone by the way) after poor results, then dont frigging go looking at them!

She just needs to piss off and shut up hopefully, sick of all this shyte she comes with...

well who does not have those feelings every other month sometimes???

yes, everyone suffers from depression

If u cant stand what strangers who will mean nothing to you or your life post online, get off line!
If u cant handle comments directed at you (like they are at everyone by the way) after poor results, then dont frigging go looking at them!

It's crazy that the solution to all this is just don't go online or don't read them rather than addressing the problem from those actually doing the abuse. Heaven forbid a sports player (and not really a big name one) wants to live life like a normal person and communicate with her fans and such

Can the forum send you abusive messages every week and say we want you to kill you or break your leg and see how you feel

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from what I've read the role these messages played in Marino's case has been overplayed. These just added to it rather than being the contributing factor

Heaven forbid a sports player (and not really a big name one) wants to live life like a normal person and communicate with her fans and such

I realise this kinda sounds stupid now but I mean why can't they use social media like any normal person does. she isn't going to have her own PR person that will screen tweets before they are read

a lot of these men and women are neurotic and insecure and want to hear what people think of them, thats why they re on Twitter. why would somebody like Tim Smyczek have a account?? he doesnt need that to talk to his mates

depressions every other months?!? WTF?!?

Jun 6, 2013 -- 2:37PM, freddiek wrote:

a lot of these men and women are neurotic and insecure and want to hear what people think of them, thats why they re on Twitter. why would somebody like Tim Smyczek have a account?? he doesnt need that to talk to his mates

why do you or I have an account

is it only for celebrities and "normal" people?

Jun 6, 2013 -- 10:46AM, VonWafer wrote:

Look everyone has issues growing up, even the best of them today like pova and williamses, how often do we see them use a press conference twice in 8 months to tell everyone about it?This girl annoying to say the least, doesnt she have anyone talking to her, you know advice and stuff???She WILL be back in a year or so playing challengers and futures again, and then another press conference about how she is not happy with her life, well who does not have those feelings every other month sometimes??? f**k sake!If u cant stand what strangers who will mean nothing to you or your life post online, get off line!If u cant handle comments directed at you (like they are at everyone by the way) after poor results, then dont frigging go looking at them!She just needs to piss off and shut up hopefully, sick of all this shyte she comes with...

feck me what a collection of idiots this subject matter attracts again

Jun 6, 2013 -- 2:37PM, freddiek wrote:

a lot of these men and women are neurotic and insecure and want to hear what people think of them, thats why they re on Twitter. why would somebody like Tim Smyczek have a account?? he doesnt need that to talk to his mates

contrary to what people will claim, and regardless of weather one should, most people care what others think of them

not that it has one iota to do with how people reasonably should behave to one another

players that  use  Twitter is  because for the ego maniacs wanting to know how many followeres they will have, probably get depressed when they compare their follower numbers to rival players except the top players, the smart ones stay off or use it infreqently, federer has only recently joined it at the back end of his career, the top players have their accounts'mamaged' and murray played alot better after he stopped using it for ages,

you have to be very mentally weak if you are offended by what some mug sitting in a bedsit in some backwater has to say about you whilst you're travelling then world plying tennis

yes it's clearly your own egomaniac fault if you are so called mentally weak and want to socialize on internet. internet you know this place shittloads of today's teenagers spend the majority of their waking day on

i know what you mean, there are some spotty teenagers on the internet all day clocking up 10,000 posts a year,

if you're weak, get off and stop whinging would be my advice to her, the sad trolls probably forget what they've typed as soon as they've posted it

as i said before..

from what I've read the role these messages played in Marino's case has been overplayed. These just added to it rather than being the contributing factor


^^ she was already depressed, and these messages amplified it

mentally weak =/= depressed

but it's not something I'm going to get in to

why was she depressed? has somebody she knew died? any reason?

Why can't a player use a social media site in the way a normal person would?

Smyczek, Alex Kuz, Marino and so on, these aren't mega stars

they are normal people who are on the fringes of a popular sport

it's not just some spotty teenagers any more, it's a big part of what (young) people see as the world around them

again, apparently necessary to spell out the utterly fcking obvious, the girl's 22 and not an entirely happy soul. but yeah she has no one but herself to blame wanting to mingle with others

If you;re depressed get off the interent, it's a playground for nutcases who think they have license to hand out vitriol

they are normal people who are on the fringes of a popular sport

Because of trolls / unhappy gamblers betting on their mug matches - and they do

^^ don't get what you mean by the last bit

schools too,
local sports club,

outside...

people who bet on their matches who lose, then go on twitter and cite fixes, call them crap players etc, do professionals really need that bs,

There is no need to get to the bottom of why she was depressed. It doesn't matter why.

I get the sense from posts on this thread that too many people think depression (of which there are many forms) is the same as 'feeling a bit sad'.

I get the sense from posts on this thread that too many people think depression (of which there are many forms) is the same as 'feeling a bit sad'.


I was going to post the same thing

She doesn't even keep complaining about it. She retired, gave people her story (as aaronh stated she had depressive tendencies anyway for one reason or another) to make others aware of the complete bullshit that is going on from pathetic, desperate gamblers and has been silent and minding her own business since then. Everyone who says she needs to finally stop whinging needs to get a grip, seriously.

That whole "go offline" if you don't like it is the worst logic ever anyway. It's the shit people that need to get called out on their bullshit and not the good ones that should succumb to the ****s and stop using a social media platform like twitter.

Jun 6, 2013 -- 3:19PM, AyersRock wrote:

people who bet on their matches who lose, then go on twitter and cite fixes, call them crap players etc, do professionals really need that bs,

of course not.

but fans like to talk to players they like and some players will like interacting with fans

what's wrong with wanting to have a social media site to do that?

Being depressed is a mental illness that if not brought about by tragic circumstances, is a mental health issue - if she was depressed it's true reading **** about her would perpetuate it more so, common sense depressed or not would make anyone realise that not using social network sites for time being is a good idea, twitter posters are the biggest mugs in the world for the abise they come out with, but youtube is the worse

ffs what has her personality or problems to do with it?  problem here that ones feeling sad/ are clinically depressed/ take offence on a (extreme) personal level/ aren't too particularly strong in defending themselves/ (/ are mentally weak ffs) are argued they should run away from whatever place they are being offended in

I'll tell you why, for every 9 friendly comments they get from fans - that one bad comment they get is the one that determines the way they feel when they log off, the one they remember

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/
publications/depression/what-causes-depression.shtml

can;t tell me about depression, never had it but seen it first hand,

then it would be reasonable for us to expect you to be more sympathetic to the issue

aaronh said it in a calm and mannered fashion

i was going to say wtf
and a whole lot of other stuff because it is still me beyond me how this thing got turned around 180

the rich and famous as well as the poor working class can suffer from depression at any point

My simple point is this: if you are depressed and sensitive to boot, stay away from 'anti' social networking sites until the clouds lifts and you can cope better, and it does because depression can be managed

or stay indoors

clearly alot of sensitive women on this thread - either that or you two have both suffered badly from depression, because you taking what i;m saying the wrong way and making it seem like i'm attacking her

it's like if you've got a headache - you don't start banging your head on a wall to make it better, if you;re depressed, you don't make it worse by going out of your way to read **** about yourself because whether you like it or not that;s what happens on tinternet

and no don't be saying im comparing it to a headache,

if you're weak, get off and stop whinging

clearly alot of sensitive women on this thread

Not painting a very positive picture of yourself on this thread, Ayers.

calling us women (some really offensive shit) or labelling us depressives is just amplifying your case and making it worse. this is what you don't seem to be understanding

crist almighty you actually making me laugh out loud

AyersRock is spot on

yes that does not surprise me

Jun 6, 2013 -- 3:33PM, nofx wrote:

or stay indoors

yes, don't go outside. people may shout abuse at you too

lol too many sensitive flowers, i feel like I've logged onto mums.net

relax i don't particular care whether pro tennis stars are on them or not, but imo they shouldn;t be - jumping on me doesnt make you all look good either but I can handle a few highly strung posters like ctrl_z

okay see you

did you tell your friend/family member whoever it was to stop being weak and stop whinging

can you give us his/her email

aaron i must have touched a nerve becuase you're very defensive with the whole depression issue, i'm not trying to wind anyone up, it's pure common sense

if i knew someone aaron that was suffering from depression i wouldn't  be tell them to stay indoors beucase when they go outdoors random people dont come up to them and start telling them "you're mug, you're ****" etc etc - but that's what happens online to pro sports starts so you point is not relevant there

sending abuse, either in person or over the internet is not normal behaviour though

Do I really have to spell this out

Random people have never come up to me or anyone I know on a consistent daily basis dishing out abuse, and that doesn't happen to anyone on a daily basis

Random people every single day abuse people online

Theses are simple facts,

And that is exactly why Rebecca Marino made her story public. Not because she's an egomaniac, nor because she liked the attention, or the "oooooooh, you poor, poor girl", but to hopefully help people like her in the future.

Make the general public aware of what kinda bullshit is going on, and change the thinking from "oh how stupid of you. Why were you online if you suffer from depression?" to something more...pleasant. Change it from giving the victims the fault for freaking wanting to use a social media platform like the vast majority of people their age do to actually blaming the assholes that are to blame.

Jun 6, 2013 -- 3:49PM, AyersRock wrote:

aaron i must have touched a nerve becuase you're very defensive with the whole depression issue, i'm not trying to wind anyone up, it's pure common senseif i knew someone aaron that was suffering from depression i wouldn't  be tell them to stay indoors beucase when they go outdoors random people dont come up to them and start telling them "you're mug, you're ****" etc etc - but that's what happens online to pro sports starts so you point is not relevant there

you are. you seem to label sensitivity/ weak mindedness/ clinical depression/ being female and a bunch of other stuff all as one thing. bad shameful things too. more importantly as something one should take responsibility for and reason to avoid social situation

no one is jumping on you, you chose to voice your delusional opinion

ctrl_z i've explained clearly, have you own opinion, nobody can change it

and maybe also make the assholes that would send such messages think about themselves

Clearly, reading vitriolic messages would not be a good thing for someone in a depressed state. No-one is disputing that.

But on this thread, Ayers, you have said that a genuine mental health condition is a sign of being weak, and said that sufferers of that condition should stop 'whinging'. You've claimed that you don't need to be told about depression because you knew someone that had it, but you are nevertheless showing next to zero capacity for empathy with those suffering from the condition. Then, in response to people suggesting that you should perhaps be a little more understanding about mental health issues, you've proceeded to demonstrate total misogyny in laughing at posters on this thread for being 'women'.

Pretty vile all round.

If you are depressed, you mental state is weak - those that should stop whinging are those that whinge about twitter users because they know what is out there, not stop whinging about being unwellv ffs

calling you all women is light hearted joke far from being vile, why you're all getting bent out of shape and taking things well out of context is beyond me

She didn't "whinge" (she never really whingedI because she likes to complain or because she's a whiny little bitch. Do you not understand that?

Cry me a fookin River

call people with mental illnesses "weak" certainly seems the right way to go about things

are you still going, i can go to google translator and try 50 different languages if you want? your mental state is weak you are depressed, what part of that don't you understand

Someone lost big on Kerber:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-
2350953/Angelique-Kerber-receives-death-threats-
Facebook-shock-second-round-Wimbledon-loss.html

not sure they were death threats

more i hope you die

so death wishes