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Can't have Robson on my mind. Kvitova handed her that win the other day and yet Robson still did her best to lose it.
Stephens a huge bet for me
Stephens a huge bet for me
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Difference is between nationality and national identity.
Nationality in Sport is often a matter of choice. If I had a French passport (which I would have, having been there for 35 years) then yeah, my nationality would be French.
My sister was born in australia and lives in australia, married an australian and has two kids who quite rightly consider themselves australian. But she is English. And knows it. Was brought up in England, cut her teeth inEngland, you dont forget that.
Your childhood is very important to establishing nationality. Many of my strongest memories come from the years between 5 and 15.
You are both right, Srichaphan from a technical perspective, Lordbobbin alludes to a more fluid, subjective form of national (individual) identity, influenced by environment.
Point taken. I'm sitting down to watch this tennis match. Well, what's left of it!!
I wasnt aware of nationality or blind patriotism until at least 8 years old. I was born in england and always lived here, no question where my allegiance lies. Patriotism is pretty much totally irrational imo, but I cant help the fact I love being English.
FFS! Laura thrown in the towel mentally. Couldn't resist a patriotic bet on Robson, wish i hadn't now!
She seems to be a slow starter. Listening on the radio (a cr@p sport for radio imo, football passable, cricket brilliant but tennis is awful by ear). Is the whole game live, cricket on five live extra and now according to the tv guide some, presumably, godawful "weekend breakfast" show starting.
She did just impressively win the last game Green. Not exactly throwing in the towel mentally. Not yet, in any case.
She does take her time. Never mind the Australian/English thing. She needs to get something changed over her sex so that she gets an extra set or two. Any chance she was born a boy??
They are just making sure that Lauras head is on properly
That MTO is to me a sign of throwing in the towel. Could be wrong, often am.
Well if she's going to do this she should just quit now so that British backers get their money back!!!
If I was Robson I would milk the Aussie born/parents thing for all it was worth at this time of year.
Then for the other 11 months of the year she can revert to being a more sponsor friendly UK citizen again
Then for the other 11 months of the year she can revert to being a more sponsor friendly UK citizen again
Robson really needs to work on the serve (unless of course it is all in the head)... she has all the attribute for it to be a weapon.
I think she and her coach are working pretty hard on that Areyoutalkin. She's still pretty young.
Cheers bobbin, seems they are playing it live, thought it was gonna be some godawful football phone in show
has anyone actually seem robson grimace after a groundstroke yet?
Interesting SS is still 1.27 in the market. Laura's been the superior player for three games now.
Stephens cannot deal with the brutality of Robson's shots.
it's not the brutality that's the problem. it's the mix of spins that's working for her so well.
is trying to produce too much off laura's heavy top spin ball.
This is really impressive. Convinced yet GreenFortune?
1. I don't think she's injured
2. She's done her homework here and understands what's working (or maybe that's carried through from Hobart)
may still lose, but i don't think the bias that's developed on stephens is i.
2. She's done her homework here and understands what's working (or maybe that's carried through from Hobart)
may still lose, but i don't think the bias that's developed on stephens is i.
At eighteen years old she is surely going to improve by the month, she has real potential and power. Regardless of the resultof this match I hope she has the will and the hard work attitude.
I think she's going to be super little player by the time she's 23 or so.
Ot a tennis scholar here, are breaks not as crucial in the womens game or is it just Robson games?
She needs to work really hard on getting her ranking up so that she isn't having to face the likes of Kvitova, Clijsters and Li in the early rounds. An easier ride through would do her the world of good. She's done well again here though.
Anyone else listening on the radio? Surely the worst sport to listen to on the radio.
Breaks don't mean anything like as much in the women's game Rob
Don't you find their descriptions rather poetic, Rob??? 
it's the case with all power players in the women's game that it comes down not to how good they are when they're playing at their top level, but how consistently they can maintain that level.
it's a bit of an unknown, but robson's consistency does seem to be improving. she's also got three slam winners scalps under her belt at 18, which confirms how good her top level is and that she's got a set of cojones. she's also showing real smarts here today too.
it's promising, but there are no guarantees she'll ever be spectacular.
it's a bit of an unknown, but robson's consistency does seem to be improving. she's also got three slam winners scalps under her belt at 18, which confirms how good her top level is and that she's got a set of cojones. she's also showing real smarts here today too.
it's promising, but there are no guarantees she'll ever be spectacular.
Stephens is 10 months older too. At this age, that can make a lot of difference.
It ai t cricket bobbin! I love the descriptions on TMS. I love listening to TMS
Big cojones alone can take you far in the women's game!
I'm sure that this tennis betting is not good for the heart.....
Yes Dstyle, certainly no guarantees, but she IS young which is the big thing. Other than todays opponent what youngsters are up there?
It's never been proven that Serena has actual, physical cojones attached to her body.
And still Sloane's 1.48. Should be around evens I think.
Quite a few very talented youngsters around, actually Rob. We've seen several big prospects parading at this championship alone.
Jan 19, 2013 -- 1:34AM, edy wrote:
It's never been proven that Serena has actual, physical cojones attached to her body.
they said the same thing about lance armstrong and drug abuse! 
not watchng the game atm, shouldnt the odds be closer? or is robson findong it really hard to hold serve?
Think the market just thinks Stephens has a bit more experience and smarts Razz. Laura's poor start has left her with a bit of a mountain to climb too, although she's doing very well.
keys looked good.
not sure about vekic - could easily be another safarova.
disappointed to have missed the garcia match
not sure about vekic - could easily be another safarova.
disappointed to have missed the garcia match
Rob, watch out for Donna Vekic. Very young, but she has plenty of potential. And she's been training in England for some time, so the Wimbledon crowd will be sure to brand her an almost-Brit!
Sorry. I hadn't noticed Dstyle's message. Ignore me.
She left herself just a bit too much to do there. Tough to sustain it when you've had to fight your way back from four down. (Just ask Bartoli!!) Still very much in this though.
That is disappointing having won 4 games in a row from 4-0 down.
Surprising how often somebody fights their way back and then still ends up losing, just after they've got level. Seems to take it out of you. (You probably know this, having played tennis!)
Garcia needs grow some of the mentioned cojones, then she might just fulfill the potential your very own Andrew Murray has predicted for her on twitter during the RG match against Maria Sharapova.
As for now she has some of the worst brain freezes in winning positions you'll find.
As for now she has some of the worst brain freezes in winning positions you'll find.
She's almost there, but not quite doing it at the mo.
with so many UE in her game ... not sure she can break Stephens
It'll certainly help if Stephens starts to tense up. Laura needs to hold here though, or it's over
easy money. Can't believe the amount of mugs on here who fancied Robson before the game
Tantalisingly close on a number of occasions, but Stephens was just ten months further down the road, I think...
Should have been 4-5 in that second set. She had an excellent chance at 40:30..
haddock_pastie • January 19, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
Unless she's been bummed senseless the last 24 hours, 3 hours on a tennis court is NOTHING. you guys need seriously re-condider the 'fitness' card. These are highly paid full time athletes. She is 18 ffs. Fitness is no issue, only claa, of which Robson is far superior to Stephens ( no disrespect - a fantstic player) but not in Robsons league when it comes to a real match.... English / Stamina haters.... Do One..Vamos (paella)
haddock_pastie • January 19, 2013 12:11 AM GMT
oh and by the way... Robson was a similar price v Petra, and we all know what happened there...MUGS...today is a much easier match up for Laura...It can only be the same mugs,,,,,hope you have lots of funds in reserve you clueless tennis wasters
Don't think we'll be seeing him again
Unless she's been bummed senseless the last 24 hours, 3 hours on a tennis court is NOTHING. you guys need seriously re-condider the 'fitness' card. These are highly paid full time athletes. She is 18 ffs. Fitness is no issue, only claa, of which Robson is far superior to Stephens ( no disrespect - a fantstic player) but not in Robsons league when it comes to a real match.... English / Stamina haters.... Do One..Vamos (paella)
haddock_pastie • January 19, 2013 12:11 AM GMT
oh and by the way... Robson was a similar price v Petra, and we all know what happened there...MUGS...today is a much easier match up for Laura...It can only be the same mugs,,,,,hope you have lots of funds in reserve you clueless tennis wasters
Don't think we'll be seeing him again
had a c0ck
about 2% can speak real english on here, so withe the anti-english mentality (f off you haters) Robson is massively underrated on this peasantry forum. Robson still hugemongous value in a match where the odds should be 50-50. PS. F Off her racist English hater gyppos
about 2% can speak real english on here, so withe the anti-english mentality (f off you haters) Robson is massively underrated on this peasantry forum. Robson still hugemongous value in a match where the odds should be 50-50. PS. F Off her racist English hater gyppos
Marcce
18 Jan 13 23:57
Lol a bit stronger than I'd have put it but I agree with the setimenet.
Looking at this thread and the match thread for the Kvitova match some people need to wise up to how good she is at the moment and will be or there'll be some seriously burnt fingers in the coming months.
That said I think the 3 hours she spent on court the other night tips the balance to Stephens in this one.
18 Jan 13 23:57
Lol a bit stronger than I'd have put it but I agree with the setimenet.
Looking at this thread and the match thread for the Kvitova match some people need to wise up to how good she is at the moment and will be or there'll be some seriously burnt fingers in the coming months.
That said I think the 3 hours she spent on court the other night tips the balance to Stephens in this one.
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