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Now I understand there has been a few player's who've claimed it's slow and what not however I am for one not believing it, not as of yet anyway.
My suspicion is they expected a lightening fast surface and were a little shocked it wasn't that and have made knee-jerk responses claiming they're as slow as the courts in Valencia.
Anderson disposing of Belluci in effortless fashion and Kohlschreiber losing to a one trick pony tells you everything. If you also look @ how the ball speeds up after it makes contact with the surface, you'll also see it's fastness. Ofcourse Berloqc beat Istomin, but we all know Istomin can throw in those performances now and again.
Edy and a few others on this forum disagree with me ofcourse so I've made this thread so we can debate this and aid us in betting for the tournament.
As the tournament progresses we will see jus how fast these surfaces are....
My suspicion is they expected a lightening fast surface and were a little shocked it wasn't that and have made knee-jerk responses claiming they're as slow as the courts in Valencia.
Anderson disposing of Belluci in effortless fashion and Kohlschreiber losing to a one trick pony tells you everything. If you also look @ how the ball speeds up after it makes contact with the surface, you'll also see it's fastness. Ofcourse Berloqc beat Istomin, but we all know Istomin can throw in those performances now and again.
Edy and a few others on this forum disagree with me ofcourse so I've made this thread so we can debate this and aid us in betting for the tournament.
As the tournament progresses we will see jus how fast these surfaces are....
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Coincidentally, I'd say it's ever so slightly faster than last year because of the balls, but still not fast at all.
Or the resin? Or because Rotweiler changed his name again?
slow off the raquet, bit quicker off the ground
weird conditions
weird conditions
lets vote
i vote slow
tbh i would like to withdraw my vote, i watched only one match ,jj ,and cant say nothing, janovicz serve looks huge everywhere. tbh those cours look quite fast to me what i see now on mayer match
Paris is the fastest hardcourt on tour by quite a margin, it is also the only HC tournament considered fast according to the ITF court pace ratings. It's court pace rating last tournament was 45, 45pts. and above is considered fast.
The rest of the HC tournaments are medium to slow.
In comparison the US Open surface plays between 37-40
I would rate the US Open series of tournaments, Cincinnati and Rogers Cup both very close to the speed at the US Open, the major difference is more related to using different tennis balls at these venues.
The AO surface is rated between 34-38 , IW and Miami are just as slow as the AO.
Shanghai is the slowest HC according to Federer.
"Shanghai was brutally slow, Toronto was very slow and Miami and Indian Wells have been slowed drastically," says Federer. "Paris was fast. But that's okay. Otherwise, things can get boring." Roger Federer
Here is the article which talks about the Paris masters as the fastest hardcourt, some comparison ratings, and Federer's Quote about the HC speeds.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/ten...ory?id=6150794
i vote slow
tbh i would like to withdraw my vote, i watched only one match ,jj ,and cant say nothing, janovicz serve looks huge everywhere. tbh those cours look quite fast to me what i see now on mayer match
Paris is the fastest hardcourt on tour by quite a margin, it is also the only HC tournament considered fast according to the ITF court pace ratings. It's court pace rating last tournament was 45, 45pts. and above is considered fast.
The rest of the HC tournaments are medium to slow.
In comparison the US Open surface plays between 37-40
I would rate the US Open series of tournaments, Cincinnati and Rogers Cup both very close to the speed at the US Open, the major difference is more related to using different tennis balls at these venues.
The AO surface is rated between 34-38 , IW and Miami are just as slow as the AO.
Shanghai is the slowest HC according to Federer.
"Shanghai was brutally slow, Toronto was very slow and Miami and Indian Wells have been slowed drastically," says Federer. "Paris was fast. But that's okay. Otherwise, things can get boring." Roger Federer
Here is the article which talks about the Paris masters as the fastest hardcourt, some comparison ratings, and Federer's Quote about the HC speeds.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/ten...ory?id=6150794
The Masters:
1.Cincinnati
2.Paris
3.Toronto
4.Shanghai
5.Miami
6.Indian Wells
From fastest to slowest.
1.Cincinnati
2.Paris
3.Toronto
4.Shanghai
5.Miami
6.Indian Wells
From fastest to slowest.
according to this discussion,but i would tend to agree
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=373328
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=373328
these courts are INCREDIBLY SLOW THIS YEAR ... apologies and credit to edy
paris was slow last year as well.
it was fast in 2010 when llodra did so well, but the tournament director admitted deliberately slowing them down last year as an easier preparation for london.
it was fast in 2010 when llodra did so well, but the tournament director admitted deliberately slowing them down last year as an easier preparation for london.
I just started another thread on this. I also think they are REALLY SLOW.
2010 was a different story, they were super quick, and Llodra made the semis....
2010 was a different story, they were super quick, and Llodra made the semis....
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