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By:
Java
When: 04 Jul 12 15:15
Eh?  Isner v Mahut was awesome!?
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 15:15
the novelty wore off after about 20-20
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 15:16
Awesome? Laugh The 5 set was absolute dross, time to switch off the tennis and put on neighbours for you
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 15:18
I hate Nadal but i'd rather watch him in a 3-0 thrashing in the early rounds of RG than two average ATP players slugging it out in a 5 setter of average quality
By:
Java
When: 04 Jul 12 15:21
I bet you love watching Barcelona winning 6-0 as well.

Would you rather watch Spurs v Liverpool and Man City at home to Wolves?  Obviously Man City are better than Spurs and Liverpool so I assume you want to watch Man City?  Laugh

Do you understand the appeal of sport is COMPETITION?
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 15:27
I do actually, Barcelona play the best football in the world.  Ever wondered why they are on Saturday/Sunday evenings every week and don't play when the lower down teams do typically?

Spurs Liverpool would be like watching Tsonga Berdych compared to Djok-Lopez, so the 1st.

Djok - Lopez or some non league football? Djok-Lopez obviously
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 15:28
Wolves would be more like Donald Young I think
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 15:31
'Do you understand the appeal of sport is COMPETITION?'


Part of it is, absolute quality is a bigger appeal
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 15:32
I would rather watch this Murray match now than either of the 2 already been on
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 15:35
is this like Arsenal vs Spurs or something on now Laugh
By:
asparagus
When: 04 Jul 12 15:38
Tennis and sport in general is effectively the entertainment business. Therefore pay shouldn't be decided on the amount of time spent on a court but on what people are prepared to pay for the product. Therefore I've no issue with women getting equal pay for best of 3 sets rather than best of 5.

However, for women to deserve equal pay they clearly should attract the same amount of spectators/viewers etc. If the womens and mens tournaments were held separately the courts would be empty for so many of the women's matches. The men's tournament would continue to get full houses. You've only got to compare what tickets are going for on viagogo for the men's semi's and final compared to women's semi's and final to see where the demand is.

Interestingly i also noticed that the same seats bought through official channels cost more on men's quarter finals day than they do on women's quarter finals day which shows that even Wimbledon itself is well aware that men's tennis is much more popular.

Let's face it, equal pay for mae and female players is a total nonsense but in the days of political correctness gone mad it's unlikely to change.
By:
Java
When: 04 Jul 12 15:55
"I do actually, Barcelona play the best football in the world.  Ever wondered why they are on Saturday/Sunday evenings every week and don't play when the lower down teams do typically?"

Don't be silly.  If Barcelona played long ball and game 4th in La Liga they would still be on primetime due to their global fanbase.
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 16:09
How do you think they built such a global fanbase and continue to maintain it Plain
By:
alun2005
When: 04 Jul 12 16:39
Dunno. Sending out lots of emails and leaflets in the newspapers?
By:
DonNo1
When: 04 Jul 12 16:44
Perhaps Stoke should do that and watch their fanbase explode Plain
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 12 18:30
Just out of interest, do people think women's money should be decreased, or men's increased ConfusedConfused
By:
jsimpson67.
When: 05 Jul 12 20:02
'even though it was womens semi final day, all the talk and focus today was on the mens semis and andy murray tomorrow' (Inverdale, 2012) Shocked
By:
Smiley1979
When: 05 Jul 12 20:46
Surely the real question here is should womens tennis and womens sport in general even exist? Why is a woman earning millions to run 100M 3/4 of a second slower than the 100th best man?? Why is a woman tennis player earning millions to play tennis infinately worse than the 1000th best man?? Its purely because she is a woman and they are actually telling us its a handicap

Also the levels of fitness of a Matt Le Tissier or even a Federer never mind a Phil Taylor surely aren't beyond a woman. Why arent we segregating on fat or short or even a white 100M where they earn the same as their quicker black rivals??
By:
;[p
When: 05 Jul 12 21:07
i like watch women competing , not only because of proverbial  tits

but the softness ,delicacy,subtlety of women its quite nice to watch,totally different proposition than watching men

t
hats why women sport exist and doing quite well
By:
;[p
When: 05 Jul 12 21:14
aaronh

Just out of interest, do people think women's money should be decreased, or men's increased


they want to shift money from women to men within same lot 


question is for me,as nobody want o watch simon and other  mugs maybe better to divide money between entertainers and dull mofos,as i am concerned right know its EQUAL

maybe in the future simon will have to fight for his equality over nadal sharapova fedex or raonic  like a woman,no Confused Laugh
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 12 22:51

Jul 5, 2012 -- 8:46PM, Smiley1979 wrote:


Surely the real question here is should womens tennis and womens sport in general even exist? Why is a woman earning millions to run 100M 3/4 of a second slower than the 100th best man?? Why is a woman tennis player earning millions to play tennis infinately worse than the 1000th best man?? Its purely because she is a woman and they are actually telling us its a handicapAlso the levels of fitness of a Matt Le Tissier or even a Federer never mind a Phil Taylor surely aren't beyond a woman. Why arent we segregating on fat or short or even a white 100M where they earn the same as their quicker black rivals??


thinly veiled "i hate women post"

By:
Howler78
When: 05 Jul 12 22:52
When I hear this argument it's always people saying the women should play best of 5 if they want the same cash. At the slams though the men playing 5 sets is the main contributor to making their games less interesting and it always seems like the women are getting more TV coverage in the early rounds, because as least if it is one sided it'll be over quick.

You'd have to be the biggest Federer fan ever to really want to watch a procession against Ramos and similar matches involving Djokovic. Best of 3 should be fine until maybe round 4 then, best of 5 sets therein. Yes, you'd get some different winners, but why does that matter? By that token you might as well play best of 7 to give the favourite even more chance to progress. It's already made easy enough for the big guns to progress with the 32 seeds system. The fact that the men have to play best of 5 even in the final qualifying round when hardly anyone is watching is ridiculous and no tie break decider in any of the 3 qualifying rounds. The Roddick v Federer final 3 years ago was boring, long duration doesn't necessary mean good, it needed a final set breaker separately!

I enjoy watching the masters events more than the slams I think, to watch a mens best of five you can be devoting half a day to it. I wouldn't mind having 5 sets back for a few of the masters finals like Miami, Indian Wells and London, if the ATP trimmed down the slams to best of 3 for the first few rounds you could do this, would give better value for those buying final tickets.

Remember the women aren't getting equal cash all year, it's only for the four main events!
By:
Howler78
When: 05 Jul 12 23:11
I think they do actually get the same for WTA events that are at the same venues as the ATP masters events, but generally you can see the top women are making a lot less still
By:
;[p
When: 05 Jul 12 23:12
good point about those 3 setters  i like masters too



and what about doubles best of fiveCrazyCrazyCrazy

totally ridiculous, macca made good point today that top players would like to play some doubles but this format its just off putting
By:
edy
When: 05 Jul 12 23:19
I don't see the top players going far  in doubles or even playing to begin with at the other majors. All except Wimbledon are best of 3 with final set tiebreak in doubles.
By:
edy
When: 05 Jul 12 23:25
So best of 5, no tie break is hardly to blame for missing top players in the doubles draw.
By:
;[p
When: 05 Jul 12 23:51
i think actually wimbledon doubles would be most  popular for top players  of all slams regarded as a competitive training session of serving volleying  etc, due to nature of grass event where season is very short and grass practice is needed for players. playing on grass is probably most pleasurable as its soft nice must feel relaxing if u have no pressure to win, just hit some serves play some voleys on the net without much running
nice

only if matches would be short i think
By:
aston
When: 06 Jul 12 00:01
Why not make the matches longer in the final when there is only 1 match for spectators to watch and the players dont have to save their energy for the next match? Best of 5 womens and best of 7 mens with tie break in final set
By:
edy
When: 06 Jul 12 00:09
yeah maybe ;[p. This year it could've been slightly more popular to get some olympic doubles training in, but in other years I still don't see a lot of top20 players signing up for doubles at Wimbledon. Even if it's best of 3.

Aston....are you kidding me? Best of 7 for matches that are likely to have at least one of Nadal or Djokovic? Wimbledon is not allowed to play long past 11pm.
By:
aaronh
When: 06 Jul 12 00:11
best of 5 doubles is ridiculous anyway, if they have to then it should be no advantage
By:
judorick
When: 06 Jul 12 00:11
best of 7? ffs, Djoko-Nadal could be on court for 8 hours
By:
;[p
When: 06 Jul 12 00:18
murray playing with jamie... tsonga and monfils... ehh daydreaming

i think maybe nadal or djok wouldnt play but much more players from around 30
By:
Dragon32
When: 07 Jul 12 14:35
Yep, women deserve the same prize money as men and i'm sure all the fans watching today agree they are getting good value for their money  Laugh
By:
jsimpson67.
When: 07 Jul 12 14:36
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By:
leefee
When: 07 Jul 12 14:41
Wonder how much those poor saps paid to watch this utter pile of used tampons....
By:
Has this ever happened before?
When: 07 Jul 12 14:42
120 i think

i reckon my 110 yesterday was better value for money
By:
jsimpson67.
When: 07 Jul 12 14:42
they have jonny marray to look forward to at least
By:
Has this ever happened before?
When: 07 Jul 12 14:43
they won't give a damn about him

the centre court crowd is simply a disgrace
By:
jsimpson67.
When: 07 Jul 12 14:46
Surprised
By:
aaronh
When: 07 Jul 12 14:47
Sad
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