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18 Jun 12
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-probe-assault-allegation-after-tennis-pro-nalbandians-queens-club-outburst-7857803.html
"Scotland Yard has launched a criminal probe after David Nalbandian injured a line judge during Wimbledon’s main warm-up event at Queen’s Club.
Detectives mounted an investigation after the Argentine tennis player accidentally hurt Andrew McDougall after losing a point in the final of the AEGON championships in Baron’s Court.
In a petulant action reminiscent of the sport’s original enfant terrible John McEnroe, the 30-year-old booted a wooden advertising hoarding which then smashed into the shin of Andrew McDougall, causing a deep gash and forcing tennis chiefs to disqualify Nalbandian for “unsporting behaviour”.
The Metropolitan Police today revealed it was now investigating an allegation of assault made by a member of the public.
“We are aware of an incident at the AEGON championships yesterday,” said a spokesman.
“A complaint has been made and the Metropolitan Police Service is now investigating. The allegation is of assault.”"
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-probe-assault-allegation-after-tennis-pro-nalbandians-queens-club-outburst-7857803.html
"Scotland Yard has launched a criminal probe after David Nalbandian injured a line judge during Wimbledon’s main warm-up event at Queen’s Club.
Detectives mounted an investigation after the Argentine tennis player accidentally hurt Andrew McDougall after losing a point in the final of the AEGON championships in Baron’s Court.
In a petulant action reminiscent of the sport’s original enfant terrible John McEnroe, the 30-year-old booted a wooden advertising hoarding which then smashed into the shin of Andrew McDougall, causing a deep gash and forcing tennis chiefs to disqualify Nalbandian for “unsporting behaviour”.
The Metropolitan Police today revealed it was now investigating an allegation of assault made by a member of the public.
“We are aware of an incident at the AEGON championships yesterday,” said a spokesman.
“A complaint has been made and the Metropolitan Police Service is now investigating. The allegation is of assault.”"
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Feel sorry for plod being dragged into this. What a waste of their time.
As it is his second behavioural offence this year, he is likely to be banned by the ATP for two months. Although I think it will be longer.
No im not an imbecile. saw you ranting and raving yesterday that it was assault and that he should be arrested, so i thought it may have been
A lot of people are referring to it as assault. Go check the BBC comments.
no thanks i have a mind of my own.
anyone who suggests this is assault is a moron.
anyone who suggests this is assault is a moron.
as one of the comments said, if they were watching England's match in a pub, and the opponents scored, causing them to become angry and smash a pint glass on the wall, which shattered over someone, injuring them, it would be assault. Why is this any different?
Why didn't the police man not just laugh at whoever made that allegation? The guy who went to the police for this should take a deep long look into the mirror and ask himself if he really wants to utterly waste the time and resources of the law enforcement entities of his country in this way.Not a good civilian if you ask me.
S & A is right on this one
By common sense no further action should be taken, but technically and by the law he can be charged with reckless assault
By common sense no further action should be taken, but technically and by the law he can be charged with reckless assault
I would prefer the police to be investigating this type of thing rather than studying videotapes to check whether a racist comment has been made from one football player to another.
it's just sad
it obviously wasn't intentional, but it was obviously stupid. he probably deserved to be disqualified but a fine will be enough.
why anyone would even want further action to be taken, whether it is legal or just a ban is baffling. why?
as edy said, that man needs to take a long look at himself in the mirror.
it obviously wasn't intentional, but it was obviously stupid. he probably deserved to be disqualified but a fine will be enough.
why anyone would even want further action to be taken, whether it is legal or just a ban is baffling. why?
as edy said, that man needs to take a long look at himself in the mirror.
I would prefer the police to be investigating this type of thing rather than studying videotapes to check whether a racist comment has been made from one football player to another.
Jun 18, 2012 -- 11:17AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
I would prefer the police to be investigating this type of thing rather than studying videotapes to check whether a racist comment has been made from one football player to another.
Why?
Was the member of public that has taken it to police the line judge or some other random person?
because in this situation, someone was physically injured.
So alleged racism is less serious than a scratch on someone's shin?
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it's just sad
it obviously wasn't intentional, but it was obviously stupid. he probably deserved to be disqualified but a fine will be enough.
why anyone would even want further action to be taken, whether it is legal or just a ban is baffling. why? Crazy
Agree, if he whacked a tennis ball into the crowd with full force or chucked his racket in etc, knowing there was a chance someone could have got injured I could understand it maybe
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it's just sad
it obviously wasn't intentional, but it was obviously stupid. he probably deserved to be disqualified but a fine will be enough.
why anyone would even want further action to be taken, whether it is legal or just a ban is baffling. why? Crazy
Agree, if he whacked a tennis ball into the crowd with full force or chucked his racket in etc, knowing there was a chance someone could have got injured I could understand it maybe
If the line judge had said "I'm fine don't worry about it, I'm sure it was an accident",
it may have been ok!
it may have been ok!
Nalbandian kicking that advertisement board was a hate crime against a pice of equipment, with the linesman having the reaction of a slouch in not getting his legs up and hence being accidentally injured.
A football player throwing racial slurs towards someone else is a hate crime towards people, i.e the target is a person. As you have complained about bullying on this forum plenty of times in the past I thought you would be able to emphasize with words being hurtful, mean and full of hate at times.
Now what's more serious? A scratch that's gonna heal completely or an eventual long-lasting emotional scar from constant slurs that are only directed at you because you either love the same sex, are part of another ethnic group, another religion etc. ?
A football player throwing racial slurs towards someone else is a hate crime towards people, i.e the target is a person. As you have complained about bullying on this forum plenty of times in the past I thought you would be able to emphasize with words being hurtful, mean and full of hate at times.
Now what's more serious? A scratch that's gonna heal completely or an eventual long-lasting emotional scar from constant slurs that are only directed at you because you either love the same sex, are part of another ethnic group, another religion etc. ?
so direct racism is worse than a silly accident/mistake where someone gets a cut on their shin
ok..
but then i suppose having seen your comments regarding foreign players and some foreign tournaments on here over the months/years, that comment isn't really too surprising.
says a lot about you.
ok..
but then i suppose having seen your comments regarding foreign players and some foreign tournaments on here over the months/years, that comment isn't really too surprising.
says a lot about you.
So the line judge has decided to sue him or take it further to the police??
Think about it. A racist comment annoys someone. They get affected mentally. Physically assaulting them hurts them physically and mentally.
They havent said who reported it, and they won't.
Must be the line judge i guess lol surely no one else? He didnt attack anybody else did he?
edy, don't try to turn this onto me. You know as well as I do, that I am referring to a single comment in a football match, not repeated racism, or racist preaching.
i mean sorry he didnt get into any problems with anybody else**
Think about it. A racist comment annoys someone. They get affected mentally. Physically assaulting them hurts them physically and mentally.
must be on a wind-up or something
must be on a wind-up or something
Would they refer to him as "a member of the public" as opposed to "an official"?
If someone damaged your leg physically, or someone shouted something at you as you are walking along the street, which of those things would still be on your mind days later?
so basically what you're trying to say is that nalbandians actions yesterday were worse than luis suarez' words to patrice evra. interesting
It wasn't some random dude shouting at him on the streets, was it? It was a direct assault, meaning to hurt a person, opposed to accidentally hurting someone.
Accidentally hurting someone can happen. Shit happens....
Not prosecuting hate crimes that are directly targeting other humans sends all the wrong signals to the young ones and general public.
If someone damaged my leg I might laugh about it as an incident a few days later. I certainly wouldn't take it personally. Why should I? Again, unlike the slur into my face, it wasn't directed me at all.
Accidentally hurting someone can happen. Shit happens....
Not prosecuting hate crimes that are directly targeting other humans sends all the wrong signals to the young ones and general public.
If someone damaged my leg I might laugh about it as an incident a few days later. I certainly wouldn't take it personally. Why should I? Again, unlike the slur into my face, it wasn't directed me at all.
if i was at work for example and someone accidentally, but foolishly dropped a heavy book or something on my foot which sprained it, compared to if i was walking down the street and someone intentionally racially abused me, i think i'd know which one affected me more
Yes, which is why assault has a larger punishment in English law - I think it is a min. six months for non-serious assault, whereas racism is two months is it not?
LOL.. Bandy gets the book thrown at him for what he did but Serena gets a slap on the wrist even tho what she did was much much worse.
What a backwards world we live in
What a backwards world we live in
Srichaphan or Ancic?
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Yes, which is why assault has a larger punishment in English law - I think it is a min. six months for non-serious assault, whereas racism is two months is it not?
Think you will find a maximum 6 months, not minimum, and you would have to have plenty of previous to get that
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Yes, which is why assault has a larger punishment in English law - I think it is a min. six months for non-serious assault, whereas racism is two months is it not?
Think you will find a maximum 6 months, not minimum, and you would have to have plenty of previous to get that
There was that student from Wales who posted a load of racist crap on Twitter about the Bolton footballer - what did he get, two months?
although I did see that, and it was really quite offensive.
I think its funny people call this "accidentally"... I mean look at the video, the guy was standing right in front of him FFS, I dont call this an accident
Yes. It was stupid. To kick a board in front of the official's legs in the first instance, he must have known it would freak him out, if not injure him.
where are the comments on the bbc website? link please?
They seem have been removed. Probably because it is a police thing now, so they have to prevent any prejudice. Either that or I just cant find the web page.
Just been in touch with David's people to offer my legal services. I'm not sure I'll be called upon though as this is a ridiculous situation. The police will 'investigate' as a complaint has been received, presumably from one A.Castle, but it won't go any further.
I just saw Nalby in Heathrow, he is leaving the country before they arrest him 
I know this is like comparing apples and pears, but here goes anyway. Yes, Nalbandian didn't mean the injure the line judge, but that doesn't mean it isn't assault. There are lots of legally different types of assault under British law. If you don't mean to kill someone, you can still get charged with manslaughter even if it was an accident.
While, I agree it's a bit of a waste of time, unfortunately that's not up to the law. If it's the line judge who has complained then he'd have been better just taking civil action. If it's someone else, then they're stepping into something they shouldn't be.
While, I agree it's a bit of a waste of time, unfortunately that's not up to the law. If it's the line judge who has complained then he'd have been better just taking civil action. If it's someone else, then they're stepping into something they shouldn't be.
Jun 18, 2012 -- 12:22PM, kingpauliothefirst wrote:
Just been in touch with David's people to offer my legal services.
stupid betfair forum get the quoting system right for once
The line judge was doing his job when an unprovoked attack occured... If you watch the incident, it clearly shows that the raving lunatic Nalbandian kicked the old guy in the leg, if i did that in the street to an old guy sat having a corn beef sandwich while sat on a bench no doubt i would be arrested, to top it off Nalbandian didnt seem that bothered, more bothered that he had defaulted on the match! 100 hours of community service should suffice
If you watch the incident from a distance as it happens it does look like he is kicking the lino, and he would know that iut will make some impact on him. but maybe he just lost the plt. as i say, i dont think there was anything in backplay tht had occurred to make him have it in for thge lino.
more bothered that he had defaulted on the match! ..... why would he PRETEND to care about accidentally rearranging the few remaining hairs on some fossil's balding shin, when he's just potentially blown "who knows what amount" of prize money? (or was it a friendly?)
he has cost himself prize money but not expenses. So effectively he has paid to play in a tournament and got nothing from it.
so he had won "some money" up until the incident, then forfeited it, correct?
Only on this head-cripple convention that is the Bf forum, can this descend into a 'Racism vs Assault' contest.
Well done, spastics.
Well done, spastics.
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If the line judge had said "I'm fine don't worry about it, I'm sure it was an accident",
it may have been ok!
I was thinking about it last night and as pissed off as I would have been I think I would have done my best to put a brave face on and allow the match to continue in the interest of the tournament and fans. May have kicked off after though and tried to get something out of him.
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If the line judge had said "I'm fine don't worry about it, I'm sure it was an accident",
it may have been ok!
I was thinking about it last night and as pissed off as I would have been I think I would have done my best to put a brave face on and allow the match to continue in the interest of the tournament and fans. May have kicked off after though and tried to get something out of him.
Perhaps they're will fork out for some boarding next year and not something that seemed like it was stuck together in a primary school DT class
nobody investigate without report from injured, SY said they are on the push
its was accident, bad maded structure for protection, if ball will hit that structure, will same result
lawyer ill said : injured man was old to react in sutiation, he saw as DN slow walk in his side and should remove his legs from this :cats toilet"
what this box is for? for made injure to player ? its annoy player, what will if player will run by ball and fall down by face on it?
Scotland yard is located in uk police, DN is not citizen, nobody in DN team scared about SY
court is the battlefield, made well structures there, employ not about dead referees
bye, no sportsmen's only fans, what will if foreign police will investigate every accident maded by UK fanat?
PS: ball 200k/h , if its will hit that older, its will kill him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=555MZkZoqLU
they shoul investigate this first
they shoul investigate this first
can't believe anyone is trying to defend bandy.If it was a footballer behaving it such a manner they'd be calling for "the rope". If it was you or I we'd be looking at bird.
I agree with singsing. I cannot for the life of me workout what he thought kicking the piece of wood (which was positioned about two inches away from the official as it was) was going to achieve?!? Even if it hadn't have given way, I still think he'd have ended up following through into him. It was beyond idiotic, completely defied logic and was an unprovoked attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCvL0nONMcg&feature=related
i for one am hoping he is charged with assault, but dont honestly see it happening.
If the line judge is the one who has complained he would have to be really, as its fairly clear it has happened, albeit recklessly rather than malicious
Nalbandian will be told to plead guilty by a lawyer and he will get a caution, end of story
If it is a busybody member of the public that has complained I doubt he will be charged
Nalbandian will be told to plead guilty by a lawyer and he will get a caution, end of story
If it is a busybody member of the public that has complained I doubt he will be charged
try to discus from height of that: your the part why l paid for this babel around incendent
linesman should have worn shin guards. next bandy match linesmen should be in hockey goalie gear
kingpauliothefirst 18 Jun 12 12:22
Just been in touch with David's people to offer my legal services. I'm not sure I'll be called upon though as this is a ridiculous situation. The police will 'investigate' as a complaint has been received, presumably from one A.Castle, but it won't go any further.
i suspect you're too late. the complaint will have come from the linesjudge after Castle put him in contact with First 4 Lawyers (grabbing the much needed referral fee since his breakfast time work dried up).
Just been in touch with David's people to offer my legal services. I'm not sure I'll be called upon though as this is a ridiculous situation. The police will 'investigate' as a complaint has been received, presumably from one A.Castle, but it won't go any further.
i suspect you're too late. the complaint will have come from the linesjudge after Castle put him in contact with First 4 Lawyers (grabbing the much needed referral fee since his breakfast time work dried up).
just out of interest, if you guys saw someone mugged on the street, would you walk on by, intervene, or call the police?
apparently Bandy has been offered a job with P Power kicking Tiddles out of the ground whilst wearing a blindfold
apparently Bandy has been offered a job with P Power kicking Tiddles out of the ground whilst wearing a blindfold
Jun 18, 2012 -- 11:17PM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
just out of interest, if you guys saw someone mugged on the street, would you walk on by, intervene, or call the police?
Easy. Intervene, tie the mugger up, beat him in self-defense, call the police.
The same treatment for Nalbandian of course. What a mugging piece of ****
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