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By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 17:59
Djokovic had a gluten intolerance the others did not.Where Djokovic is concerned it was a chronic condition not a fad.
By:
John_Cherry
When: 10 Jun 12 18:00
very good post helmut, you seem clued up Grin
By:
rn-betfair
When: 10 Jun 12 18:02
Sponsor's won't like the Betfair mention... :-)
By:
rn-betfair
When: 10 Jun 12 18:03
Sorry, posted on wrong thread.
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 19:18
That's not smokin gun proof of illicit drug use.
It merely proves you've been smokin illicit drugs.
By:
John_Cherry
When: 10 Jun 12 19:19
Pretending to be tired could be a mind game.To affect the other player.
Do you really think Djoko is on court and thinking at some point 'hold on, i better put a little act on to try and dispel any rumours that I'm on drugs.I'd better act tired.'
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 19:23
Andy Murray recievin a massage on court is the smokin gun proof  needed to suggest he is the Lockerbie bomber.
WTF.
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 19:24
Exactly Herr Cherry.
By:
Journeyman
When: 10 Jun 12 19:25
Do you really think Djoko is on court and thinking at some point 'hold on, i better put a little act on to try and dispel any rumours that I'm on drugs.I'd better act tired.'


Yes I do.
Essentially he was feeling euphoric about realising he now had an edge on the competition, then tempered it with misdirection.
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 19:35
So to summarise then. You knpw the power capability and stamina limits of an elite professional Tennis player at the absolute pinnacle of his ability. You know when such an individual can expend no more. You know when the adrenaline levels are empty. This is a gift of which many would invest many a guinea in.
You are truly gifted.
By:
Journeyman
When: 10 Jun 12 19:37
Thank you
By:
A_T
When: 10 Jun 12 19:42
Djokovic has always huffed and puffed like he's about to die - Murray does something similar it's just the way they are.
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 20:42
I mean ffs i've seen players huf and puff before a ball is struck.
nerves,pressure many factors can affect the body until an equilibrium or nirvana if you will when body and mind conjoin.
This can last for a significant time or fleetingly whatever the case these signs are not proof of conspiracy to cheat.
The mind is powerful,enigmatic and unpredictable.
By:
helmutschon
When: 10 Jun 12 20:43
everyones mind that is except journeymans' of course. Who believes 3+3=7
By:
DStyle
When: 10 Jun 12 21:14
Do you really think Djoko is on court and thinking at some point 'hold on, i better put a little act on to try and dispel any rumours that I'm on drugs.I'd better act tired.'

This is EXACTLY what he did in melbourne.

I've said it before. Go and get some highlights from his matches in Doha 2010 to see how he plays when he's really tired.

As for the Coeliac disease, i would want to have seen his tTG results before i could confidently ascribe his miraculous improvement to a gluten free diet .
By:
DStyle
When: 10 Jun 12 21:20
firstly the point is that it's unlikely any of us can claim definitively to know either way.

however, we know this much:

i. tennis is not clean. the image of Puerta today should do enough to remind you of that.

ii. in other sports, novel doping methods have evaded detection. testing is by no means flawless. you cannot be 100% confident that there are no tennis players doping who are evading detection.

iii. Djokovic's stamina has improved markedly with little noticeable transition.

this is by no means the territory of wild conspiracy theory. i, myself, was extremely sceptical until Melbourne this year.
By:
seahawk
When: 10 Jun 12 21:54
DStyle
10 Jun 12 21:14 Joined: 20 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 12,241 | Blogger: DStyle's blog
Do you really think Djoko is on court and thinking at some point 'hold on, i better put a little act on to try and dispel any rumours that I'm on drugs.I'd better act tired.'

This is EXACTLY what he did in melbourne.

I've said it before. Go and get some highlights from his matches in Doha 2010 to see how he plays when he's really tired.

As for the Coeliac disease, i would want to have seen his tTG results before i could confidently ascribe his miraculous improvement to a gluten free diet .

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DStyle , you don't even have to believe that coeliac BS .

According to Djokovic , and that is something that we all were able to see , he started working with Dr Cetajovic in July 2010 , Cetajovic signed for a 1 year tour , and that is what he was with Djokovic team .

Now , according to Novak , Dr Cetajovic diagnosed Coeliac disease immediately , and always according to Novak , that was a life changer .

Curiously , from July all the way down to December (before Davis Cup Final) there was no improvement whatsoever in Novak's conditioning .

Right before the Davis cup final , he played the Masters cup , losing to Nadal and to Federer .

During the Davis , he didn't do anything special , Troicky was more or less the hero .

Then , after a month break , just a frigging month , he became the fittest tennis player ever!!!

It is so unbelievable  , that I don't believe it .

There is another telltale , Djokovic doesn't sweat anymore .

You can see him toweling off , but it is all acting . His face is always dry . Before , he used to sweat , not anymore .

You can see , basically all players , that after 1 hour of playing , the hair at the nape is always damp , Novak's is always dry .

Novak is a doper , that is not to say that he is the only one . But his case is blatant .
By:
farki
When: 10 Jun 12 22:26
Djokovic loves his body more than anybody else and would never
use something destroying it.For Nadal I am not sure and even less for Roger.
If we compare Roger's same age mates Roddic and Hewitt how they behave on court
the most suspicous is Roger. Knowing his ego to regain no. 1 makes it even more obvious...
By:
Randle
When: 10 Jun 12 23:01
hard work, a concept lost on a lot of people these days
By:
John_Cherry
When: 10 Jun 12 23:07
yep, that's why they take drugs
By:
John_Cherry
When: 10 Jun 12 23:07
short cut city
By:
John_Cherry
When: 10 Jun 12 23:10
Novak is a doper , that is not to say that he is the only one . But his case is blatant .

utter utter bowloks

what we have here is a line that anyone who improves must be 'on drugs'.
I am telling you now that gluten allergy exists
you should be thanking this bloke for not lying down against a roid boy in nadal
dimwits
By:
yyyy
When: 11 Jun 12 00:08
So what if they dope??

Why you really care? We want to watch excellent superhuman tennis...enjoy true battle, out of earth shots, long rallies (like today's one of 44 shots!!!)...
Cool

If they want to dope, let them dope. As long as THEY DO not dope MY body, I don't care. And do not see why YOU care???!

Doping won't do any help to Zeballos, Almagros, Cilics, Granollers, Llodras, Querrys, ...etc. Cry

Now STFU about irrelevant subject. DevilDevil
This is a bet exchange forum. Other concerns are second door left! LOL

Laugh
By:
yyyy
When: 11 Jun 12 00:09
LaughLaugh
By:
Journeyman
When: 11 Jun 12 00:24
We want to watch excellent superhuman tennis...enjoy true battle, out of earth shots, long rallies (like today's one of 44 shots!!!)...

No we want to watch a fantastic sport that is supposed to be a true gladiatorial contest between two men or women
the 'Rolls royce' of one-on-one sports that was born and raised in the greatest country the planet has ever seen, Great Britain.

Part of the fascination of the sport is watching one player's weaknesses and strength match up against another's.

This element of the combat of wills, the essential human struggle of desire versus personal limitations, all this is dying in front of your face in the sequence of freakshow Robot Wars finals that Nadal and Nole are serving up for the imminent future.
By:
Journeyman
When: 11 Jun 12 00:25
I promise you this. One day you will hate them for it.
By:
yyyy
When: 11 Jun 12 00:54
one-on-one sports that was born and raised in the greatest country the planet has ever seen, Great Britain.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

I suggest you to travel little bit.

Till then, second door left, please!
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