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Wurstkoffer
25 Apr 12 18:41
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WOZ won the last 4 meetings with JAN if i remember right - 2 beeing on clay. Hopeing for a nice match Happy
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Report haileselassie April 25, 2012 6:44 PM BST
Great username!
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 6:45 PM BST
Thanks Cool
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 6:49 PM BST
wozniacki is not the same player. The price is ludicras. Lay Wozniacki
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 6:51 PM BST
JJ is not the same player either, so what exactly is your point? Do you even have one?
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 6:53 PM BST
yes. JJ has neither improved or decresed her level, she is just inconsistent. On her day shye can beat anyone but we dont no when she has her day. Wozzi has gone down to a top 10-20 player  not at top ten player. She has had the worst year ever and is distracted by off field commitments such as her boyfriend. She hasnt won a tourney this year and is in decline. LAY WOZZI
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 6:54 PM BST
pre-match price graph looks interesting on WOZ
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 6:56 PM BST
That is more like it.

I disagree about JJ not decreasing her level. There are a lot of players who can beat anyone on their day (the UE machine players, who sometimes just hit every low % shot they try).

Agree about Woz being out of it a bit but she is still a fighter when on court, and still better than JJ.

The price looks pretty much correct to me, it started low but then went to around correct level (few ticks off maybe).
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 6:58 PM BST
I would price this at around 1.42-1.48, probably 1.45 and it seems we will kick off about there.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 6:59 PM BST
if this was last year then i would say the price would be correct but if we are basing it on current form then she has to be between 1.6 and 1.7. if i remember correctly she already lost to saforova at short odds? lost to kerber at short odds? was so close to losing against aviderson in three sets. im sure there has been more but those stand out to me
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:01 PM BST
Kerber is a big hitter, the type of player she always had trouble with. Safarova, well, she can really play well and I didn't see that match.

Woz was always big on comebacks, meaning she was no stranger to falling behind in a match before grinding it out.

It seems we disagree on JJ mainly.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:03 PM BST
i dont disagree that Woz should be favourite and i hate backing janko at the best of times because u dont no what you will get. But i just disgagree at the price but i think wozzi has been dreadful all year.
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:04 PM BST
The form has to change sometimes, and this matchup is good for Woz.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:05 PM BST
who did janko beat in the fed cup?
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:07 PM BST
Pavly and Kuzzy.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:08 PM BST
oh two more bunch of nobodies. Irrelevant.
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:10 PM BST
You are kidding, right? Pavly can't move and Kuzzy is a shadow of her former self (resigned today vs. Begu too). If JJ keeps the ball in play, those are trivial wins on clay.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:11 PM BST
yes, that is what i meant. Two nobodies, irrelevant wins for JJ. I thought she beat someone good.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:13 PM BST
straight away you can see, JJ is in the mood here. Nice hitting, clean on the lines. This is no gimmie at all of Wozzi.
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:17 PM BST
I thought you were sarcastic Silly I am a huge Kuzzy fan though, hope she can make a few last hurrahs before she fades.

Too early to tell, meanwhile I am amazed Peer is getting ready to lose to Johansson.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:19 PM BST
peer is another one, you just cannot do anything with. Loses to complete and utter nobodies but has the odd surprise in her aswell. Cant be backing Wozzi here at this price, seen enough. On clay wozzi wont be able to defend JJ's winners as well as she does on hard. Can already see gaps in that defence of hers and we know she wont be hitting any winners here today so it all depends on JJ
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:20 PM BST
All she has to do is call JJ to the net, those are automatic points.

As for PEer, she is the UE machine type.
Report 4Isaac April 25, 2012 7:22 PM BST
'On clay wozzi wont be able to defend JJ's winners as well as she does on hard' Please explain?
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:22 PM BST
Wozzi on Clay just doesnt work for me, or anyone this year to be honest. Ive seen nothing here from wozniacki to suggest she will win let alone win comfortably. Break point JJ as we speak. No weapons from Wozzi to hurt janko
Report mayburydrr April 25, 2012 7:22 PM BST
yeah didnt get that either
Report mayburydrr April 25, 2012 7:23 PM BST
break JJ
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:24 PM BST
Well this is going exactly as predicted. I have told everyone to keep laying wozniacki at these silly prices this year. She is not a top ten player and 1.5 against JJ was just a joke. I dont understand why the market keeps pricing wozzi at these silly prices. 1.4 against kerber the other day!
Report mayburydrr April 25, 2012 7:26 PM BST
break back coming here i sense
Report mayburydrr April 25, 2012 7:26 PM BST
although JJ looks good in rally
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:26 PM BST
JJ just hitting these winners for fun
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:26 PM BST
Early days still. Meanwhile, 3-2 Johansson. I watch the SB with perverse fascination.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:27 PM BST
when will the market ever learn with these prices from wozniacki. win or lose, its just wrong
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:28 PM BST
one thing about wozzi backers, her serve! Expect it to be broken at least two or three times
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:29 PM BST
per set that is
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:30 PM BST
wozzi is just not on her game in terms of defence. She just looks so uncomfortable out there
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:31 PM BST
JJ should really be at least 4-1 up
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:32 PM BST
and it looks like she just will be
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:32 PM BST
only one player playing tennis here
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:33 PM BST
Watching JJ come to the net is pretty damn funny Laugh

Peer will lose from being 1.05 vs. freaking Mathilda Johansson. If that is not cause for retirement, then I really don't know what is Plain
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:34 PM BST
the worst gubbing this year i seen was murray against GL. 1.02 he started, lost in straight sets. I cant remember what the 2-0 set betting price was
Report 4Isaac April 25, 2012 7:35 PM BST
A good price now for those who can keep the faith in the Danish. I backed at 1.96.

The thing is, when JJ's winner:UE ratio starts to fall, Danish will still be there putting the ball back over the net, machine like!
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:37 PM BST
whoopsie
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:37 PM BST
danish doesnt look good in defence to me. JJ hitting the winners with ease so far. If wozzi breaks it will be a fluke, two doubles gifted her the point
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:37 PM BST
market still has no faith in wozzi! 1.65 now from 1.48 pre match
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:38 PM BST
Laugh net again!
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:38 PM BST
that is more realistic, should have been SP price
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:38 PM BST
still confident in JJ here. Wozzi just got herself lucky by getting herself back in this match so far. JJ has been doing all the running
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:40 PM BST
good game there by Wozzi. First time in the match shes played a good game there
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:40 PM BST
1.4???
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:41 PM BST
Market thinks JJ will collapse, which doesn't usually happen before the set is finished.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:41 PM BST
Trainer on!
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:41 PM BST
1.33
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 7:41 PM BST
i got 1.33 matched Crazy
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:41 PM BST
Fake medical as per standard procedure.
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:42 PM BST
why would anyone back this price? If she retires it will be void before first set, if she doesnt retire then she will be well enough to carry on the match. 1.33! oh dear
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:42 PM BST
1.26! WTF
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:42 PM BST
jj clearly just trying to buy some time here, get rid of the momentum with wozzi
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:43 PM BST
Had to lay 1.26 out of general principle.
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:43 PM BST
Even managed 1.23 LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:43 PM BST
it happens so many times, market panic, price goes down because they see a MTO and 10 mins later the price rockets back up. Anyway, on that note im off to watch footie. Ile keep checking on this match
Report Mystery_Man007 April 25, 2012 7:44 PM BST
im leaving my lay in
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 7:44 PM BST
10 minutes ago this was 2.4x
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 7:48 PM BST
pee time out ? Laugh
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:49 PM BST
lol
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:50 PM BST
2 ue, rude miss JJ
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:50 PM BST
will try if -2
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:50 PM BST
-1 -ue!
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:50 PM BST
-2 will try
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:51 PM BST
haha
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:51 PM BST
-1 will lose
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:51 PM BST
YEA! you Are easy! JJ
Report nofx April 25, 2012 7:52 PM BST
thnaks for mummy JJ
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:53 PM BST
Cooll WOZ co
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:53 PM BST
do
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:53 PM BST
YEAAA
Report nofx April 25, 2012 7:53 PM BST
market no moving...
Report Wurstkoffer April 25, 2012 7:54 PM BST
ffs
Report nofx April 25, 2012 7:56 PM BST
gsm
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:56 PM BST
JJ to give up now.
Report Marin1977 April 25, 2012 7:56 PM BST
resignation talk
Report Andrewww April 25, 2012 7:56 PM BST
hahaha 0-40 waisted:D only JJ can do such thing:D
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 7:56 PM BST
from 07 to 1,1? after 1 set for?
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:00 PM BST
ok shE play
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:00 PM BST
1,17! lool 1,07 >1,17 1 serv
Report farki April 25, 2012 8:02 PM BST
All in Caro ! JJ will retire !
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:03 PM BST
will not atack, attack - risk -> misake, lose bad way, so UE's
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:05 PM BST
5 l rally 5 ue's
Report parrys April 25, 2012 8:05 PM BST
40-0 to broken, that should finish her off
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:05 PM BST
what will now? hold? after hold, break then?
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:06 PM BST
2-2, then 4-5 break, lose 2-1?
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:06 PM BST
or is just 1 set play? 2 set - 6-'0'?
Report doridoru April 25, 2012 8:07 PM BST
HappyScaredSurprisedWhoops
Report nofx April 25, 2012 8:07 PM BST
3-0 is retiriied
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:07 PM BST
is just retire :-))
Report doridoru April 25, 2012 8:07 PM BST
CrySadCrySadCry
Report qqqqqw April 25, 2012 8:07 PM BST
1set play was
Report doridoru April 25, 2012 8:08 PM BST
CrySadWhoops
Report doridoru April 25, 2012 8:08 PM BST
SadCryPlainScaredSurprisedWhoops
Report doridoru April 25, 2012 8:08 PM BST
SadCryPlainScaredSurprisedWhoops
Report parrys April 25, 2012 8:10 PM BST
why fee paying spectators put up with jjs nonsense is beyond me
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