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Could be doggy here.The player who is double bagelled in WTA should be banned from my backinglist
wasn't that like a double footfault? she was halfway up the court
Polona not much interested at all. Cirstea at least looks like she wants to win
1 something wrong
2something wrong set 1
3something wrong set 1 & 2
4everythink ok
5 other?
2something wrong set 1
3something wrong set 1 & 2
4everythink ok
5 other?
she will wait for everyone to win money and then retire
Always a tank after a good tournament.2nd set is a bagel.
nothing to lol, look at my thread "Cirstea" looks good to beat her sock.
Champion. Lumped on at 1.26 to check back after reading this and seeing the trainer. Then a lovely retirement.
I DIDNT BET ON THIS BUT I DO HONESTLY THINK THAT THESE MATCHES NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AS THIS WAS CLEARLY A FIX AND NOT FAIR ON THE BACKERS!!
interesting that there was nothing wrong with her and she just decided to play the first set..
everyone doesnt win as im sure there are backers on here that have lost, just doesnt seem fair thats all
thats reason why she was so high,but why not retire directly,greened out 1,28
yep from her first service game it was clear hercog had no intention of winning this
incredible.
let's play 1set and then give up.
what a fix.. somebody made a furtune...somebody close to hercog
let's play 1set and then give up.
what a fix.. somebody made a furtune...somebody close to hercog
If these tennis players retire during a match they should not be allowed to enter another tournament for 28 days and until they pass a WTA/ATP medical.
market had hercog 1.65 at 4-4 bp so i guess
1. there was nothing wrong with her at all
2. there are no courtsiders
what a strange match this was...
1. there was nothing wrong with her at all
2. there are no courtsiders
what a strange match this was...
This is called tank not phix hope this helps.Not every match is a phix when u lose your money
matty i take it you were a backer,WTA is very volatile massive market swings at times,i should know backed wozi a few months back at 1.07 3-0 up in final set and she lost ,i lost £600,just one of those things
If u guys are looking for a phix.Dolgopolov will lose to Cipolla that match is a phix
agree.
When you give up you will be suspended for 4 weeks.
let's see how many players will retire???!!
When you give up you will be suspended for 4 weeks.
let's see how many players will retire???!!
i didnt have any money on it buddy, just feel sorry for people that loast when its like that. im looking to have a bet but not sure who to back!!
players ain't robots, suck it up. If she's not feeling well, she's not feeling well. Nobody forced you to bet on her, nor did any "dirty evil people with connections to the Polona Hercog betting mafia" offer ridiculously high odds at any time during the match to lure punters into betting on her.
and everybody could've gotten out at basically pre-match odds long after swebih and others said that Hercog looks fatigued/jetlagged.
Yeah matty - it's the punters fault if they put money on her. End of. The punter should make certain that they are making a decent bet, which in this case it wasn't and they deserve to lose.
and bollox I am all in on Barthel and didn't get on Cirstea 
really don´t see the problem here
you could just watch the match and not bet on the one looking worn and disinterested..
you could just watch the match and not bet on the one looking worn and disinterested..
players ain't robots, suck it up. If she's not feeling well, she's not feeling well. Nobody forced you to bet on her, nor did any "dirty evil people with connections to the Polona Hercog betting mafia" offer ridiculously high odds at any time during the match to lure punters into betting on her.
No bet for me,however a 28 day break and medical would be good for the players too,ensuring their fitness and well being before playing again.
No bet for me,however a 28 day break and medical would be good for the players too,ensuring their fitness and well being before playing again.
ctrl-z agree
She warned market on time and i have to thank her. Feel sorry for her.
She warned market on time and i have to thank her. Feel sorry for her.
fast money.
she was looking bad from the start.
why do they come playing if they don't feel good.
I won but I still think that they are a$$holes and should be fined heavily for this!!!!
don't play if you're not ok. and you KNOW when you're not ok.
she was looking bad from the start.
why do they come playing if they don't feel good.
I won but I still think that they are a$$holes and should be fined heavily for this!!!!
don't play if you're not ok. and you KNOW when you're not ok.
What would that help in this case "4thjulykid"? Do you think Hercog would've been up to competing another two sets here and slug out a win?
As jinkazz just said again she looked shit from basically the beginning, all your 28 day rule would do is the player dragging herself around court for another set because she's scared to retire. As she clearly will be fit enough to play again before the 28 days are over.
Not all medical conditions need 28 days to heal up. Imagine a player retiring with cramps, like Jamie Hampton against Radwanska recently. Should she not have been allowed to compete again within 4 weeks? Would you have wanted her to stay on court for another ...what was it?...3 games in agony, lying on the ground without receiving treatment? Again, because she's scared of being punished for being in pain?
Serioualy mate...
As jinkazz just said again she looked shit from basically the beginning, all your 28 day rule would do is the player dragging herself around court for another set because she's scared to retire. As she clearly will be fit enough to play again before the 28 days are over.
Not all medical conditions need 28 days to heal up. Imagine a player retiring with cramps, like Jamie Hampton against Radwanska recently. Should she not have been allowed to compete again within 4 weeks? Would you have wanted her to stay on court for another ...what was it?...3 games in agony, lying on the ground without receiving treatment? Again, because she's scared of being punished for being in pain?
Serioualy mate...
tanks, retirements and phixs are the best part of betfair and people want to quit that? OMFG...
How do you guys post fancy pictures? Not just the URL, but directly embedding a picture
you have to upload the pic to your forum profile account..
ah ok, thanks. I thought I could just use some tag, copy&paste a URL between the tags and that's that. I tried [ img] but as you can see that just resulted in an empty post.
What a hassle...and I just wanted to post a happy picture of an easter bunny mug to lighten up the mood and atmosphere.
So now I have a perfect, royalty/copyright free picture in my Gallery, but I still see no button to add it to a post. Is it now time for the img tag? Lemme try...
or maybe image tag
[image]http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/edy/47f7f5acf7a34c240a52809a12ea92d6.jpg?v=137250[/image]
Surely if I just copy the URL standalone it won't show as an image, will it?
http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/edy/47f7f5acf7a34c240a52809a12ea92d6.jpg?v=137250
What a hassle...and I just wanted to post a happy picture of an easter bunny mug to lighten up the mood and atmosphere.
So now I have a perfect, royalty/copyright free picture in my Gallery, but I still see no button to add it to a post. Is it now time for the img tag? Lemme try...
or maybe image tag
[image]http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/edy/47f7f5acf7a34c240a52809a12ea92d6.jpg?v=137250[/image]
Surely if I just copy the URL standalone it won't show as an image, will it?
http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/edy/47f7f5acf7a34c240a52809a12ea92d6.jpg?v=137250
picutres even have to be aproved by betfair..
they ban me one of chakvetadze with 16 years...
they ban me one of chakvetadze with 16 years...
edy
So she was 'fit' to play game 10, but completely not fit 5 minutes later. That is not really possibly unless she pulled a muscle or strained something in the last game (10)and that did not happen.
If she looked not right during the first set why didn't she retire then, what incentive was there for her to play on and possibly hurt herself even more ? Something needs to be done about retirements whilst in play at strategic times in tennis. They retire hurt more than boxers.
So she was 'fit' to play game 10, but completely not fit 5 minutes later. That is not really possibly unless she pulled a muscle or strained something in the last game (10)and that did not happen.
If she looked not right during the first set why didn't she retire then, what incentive was there for her to play on and possibly hurt herself even more ? Something needs to be done about retirements whilst in play at strategic times in tennis. They retire hurt more than boxers.
You're failing to address my points about your 28 day rule suggestion completely.
Anyway, players that don't feel well, often see out the first set, maybe trying to win it and then see if they can finish it in a second set. If they don't win it they throw in the towel because they don't see any chance of playing and winning the match in three sets. Possibly after reflecting about the the set they just lost a moment ago. Simply due to the scoring system a set is naturally somewhat of a milestone in every tennis match. Players can simply give up and retire because of what I just said, find a fresh start after a desastrous previous set, be deflated after a highly contested, but lost set, be pumped after winning a tiebreak 24-22 etc. etc.
Hardly rocket science, is it?
There's nothing corrupt or bad about that at all and it's not about retiring at "strategic times" (are you suggesting there's a financial gain from betting involved?). I know some people will make you want to believe otherwise, but the vast majority of players don't plan their matches in accordance to betfair or the betting world. In the rare case someone wants to be corrupt however he flat out loses a match, especially if a ridiculous rule like your suggestion was in place. So in the end your rule, as would any rule I can think of spontaneously to be honest, would only punish the fair, genuine players and do absolutely nothing to eradicate anything unfair.
Anyway, players that don't feel well, often see out the first set, maybe trying to win it and then see if they can finish it in a second set. If they don't win it they throw in the towel because they don't see any chance of playing and winning the match in three sets. Possibly after reflecting about the the set they just lost a moment ago. Simply due to the scoring system a set is naturally somewhat of a milestone in every tennis match. Players can simply give up and retire because of what I just said, find a fresh start after a desastrous previous set, be deflated after a highly contested, but lost set, be pumped after winning a tiebreak 24-22 etc. etc.
Hardly rocket science, is it?
There's nothing corrupt or bad about that at all and it's not about retiring at "strategic times" (are you suggesting there's a financial gain from betting involved?). I know some people will make you want to believe otherwise, but the vast majority of players don't plan their matches in accordance to betfair or the betting world. In the rare case someone wants to be corrupt however he flat out loses a match, especially if a ridiculous rule like your suggestion was in place. So in the end your rule, as would any rule I can think of spontaneously to be honest, would only punish the fair, genuine players and do absolutely nothing to eradicate anything unfair.
or they simply go out to play a complete set to give the spectators/fans at least a bit of tennis.
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