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brazilian Footy
18 Mar 12 18:58
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Just wondered if anyone with a good knowledge of sub top 100 tennis could advise if theres any value here (my hope is that bookies are much more prone to pricing a tournament like this compared to an ATP event). The reason i ask is i live local so looking for some interest. Cheers, Here's the prices:

Beck, Andreas     3/1
Berrer, Michael     5/1
Brands, Daniel     9/1
Ignatik, Uladzimir     9/1
Janowicz, Jerzy     10/1
Grigelis, Laurynas     12/1
Huta Galung, Jesse     12/1
Copil, Marius     14/1
Brown, Dustin     16/1
Jouan, Romain     22/1
Lajovic, Dusan     25/1
De Bakker, Thiemo     25/1   ?? (not seeded but in as first alternate, used to be top 40, mispriced?)
Fischer, Martin     25/1
Hernych, Jan     28/1
Torebko, Peter     28/1
De Schepper, Kenny     33/1
Burquier, Gregoire     40/1
Mertens, Yannick     40/1
Mertl, Jan     40/1
Capkovic, Kamil     40/1
Albot, Radu     66/1
Smethurst, Daniel     80/1
Baker, Jamie     80/1
Navarro, Ivan     80/1
Golding, Oliver     100/1
Goodall, Josh     100/1
Oswald, Philipp     100/1
Broady, Liam     200/1
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Report jsimpson67. March 18, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
Anything can happen in challengers surely, but I'd always take Berrer in that field, though he has a very tough opener with Huta-Galung. Very very quick low bouncing courts in Bath, didn't Tsonga win this 5 years ago Shocked.

Where's Dan Evans Confused, I'd have liked him in a home event on such courts in such a field, not that I'd bet on this myself.
Report jimmy69 March 18, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Dustin served 71 aces in 4 matches last week in Sarajevo...didn't drop serve once...lost to the eventual winner Hernych. He'll give you a good run for your money though 16/1 is a bit skinny...An outsider Peter Torebko...he's just won a futures event in Bath...not sure if it was on the same courts.
Report jcy March 18, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
when does bath challenger begin? thanks
Report jimmy69 March 18, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
Tomorrow...here's the OOP...http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6246/op.pdf
Report aaronh March 18, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
Berrer got knocked out in Sarajevo last week first round by a mug, was seethingShocked

Mertl and Hernych made the final today and are big prices here I guess
Report MoneyBagger March 18, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
The courts aren't so fast for indoor hard. The surface is quite abrasive and balls don't seem to travel through the air as quickly there.
Report jsimpson67. March 18, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
Well I've played on them numerous times and thought they were very fast, compared to other indoor hard courts. Mainly because they've been down a longer than most and not been resurfaced as far as I can remember, so naturally they get quicker and quicker. Lower bouncing than most too.
Report petr cech March 18, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
Brands
Report MoneyBagger March 18, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
I've not played there for about 3 years now, but they were slow compared to Queens/Lougborough indoor hard. Balls seem to travel slower through the air too (maybe air is cooler?). They are defo acrylic courts, but don't think they are plexicushion/rebound ace.

There have been a number of futures tournaments there - might be worth looking to see who did well in them.
Report jimmy69 March 18, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
Dan Evans is in Miami JSimpson.
Report aaronh March 19, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
Liam Broady turned down a Miami qualies WC for this Cry
Report MoneyBagger March 19, 2012 9:03 AM GMT
Why was he offered a wildcard?
Report aaronh March 19, 2012 1:18 PM GMT
who knows but apparently he was...

from  The Times earlier this week

"It helps to have friends in influential places. Liam and Naomi Broady, the brother-and-sister pair trying to climb the ranking ladder, have been granted a shove in the right direction, with the awarding of wild cards into a five-star tournament in the United States.

Liam, 18, may only be ranked No 26 in Britain, but he has been invited into the qualifying tournament for the Sony Ericsson Open, that starts in Miami next week. The same is true for big sister Naomi, 21, the fifth-ranked British player at No 192 in the world. These are great opportunities to gain experience and possibly take a shot at a star in the main draw."
Report edy March 19, 2012 1:29 PM GMT
He's probably represented by IMG, which more or less runs the Miami tournament. IMG/Bollettieri players usually get a few main draw and qualie wild cards there over players that the general public might consider more deserving.
Report aaronh March 19, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
This is being streamed too if anyone is interested
Report aaronh March 19, 2012 1:49 PM GMT
Umpire saw that a serve went long but didn't overrule it  CrazyCrazy
Report MoneyBagger March 19, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
I saw a similar thing on a clay challenger, serve a good 5 inches long, both players thought it was long, ball mark showed it was long but chair umpire refused to overrule it. Tournament referee was called and told the player it was up to the chair umpire whether to look at the mark.
Report aaronh March 19, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
Mertens should now win here, he was the much better player before he went walkies and then had a strop in the 1st
Report aaronh March 20, 2012 11:01 AM GMT
Oswald seems a nice price, Navarro is a clay mug
Report jimmy69 March 20, 2012 11:05 AM GMT
Navvaro is just a MUG...
Report youaintseenmeright March 20, 2012 11:08 AM GMT
Ivan Navarro Pastor. How can you call him a mug jimmy? You obviously dont remember his epic 5 setter with karlovic at the uso a few years back.
Report jimmy69 March 20, 2012 11:20 AM GMT
I only remember a 3 setter...Excited
Report youaintseenmeright March 20, 2012 11:22 AM GMT
ah yes your right, the five setter was next.. and he lost.
Report jimmy69 March 20, 2012 11:23 AM GMT
Navarro is one of very few players who have never retired in a match...
Report youaintseenmeright March 20, 2012 11:26 AM GMT
I always liked watching him play, crazy style.
Report jimmy69 March 20, 2012 11:28 AM GMT
Yeah...very un Spanish like
Report youaintseenmeright March 20, 2012 11:33 AM GMT
gave murray the run around at queens for a set aswell, was funny viewing. Murray looking in disbelief at ivan's mint volleys behind monster balls out second serves
Report aaronh March 20, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
wtf happened to Copil Cry
Report aaronh March 21, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
Hernych once got to an ATP tour final ShockedShocked

beat Djokovic on the way CrazyCrazy
Report aaronh March 21, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
big serbia fix in Bath

Lajovic 5-3 -> 5-7 Shocked
Report MoneyBagger March 21, 2012 6:28 PM GMT
This girl commentating loves to over pronounce every word she says.
Report aaronh March 21, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
pretty much most of the British players on Twitter have said how bad she is commentating Laugh

Baker has the 3rd win for a Brit on challenger tour all year, his 2 this week and Alex Bogdanovic a while back
Report aaronh March 23, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
Berrer, Michael     5/1
Grigelis, Laurynas     12/1
Brown, Dustin     16/1
Jouan, Romain     22/1
Mertens, Yannick     40/1
Mertl, Jan     40/1
Baker, Jamie     80/1

remaining players
Report aaronh March 23, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
80/1 shot still in it Devil
Report jimmy69 March 25, 2012 2:53 PM BST
jimmy69 • March 18, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Dustin served 71 aces in 4 matches last week in Sarajevo...didn't drop serve once...lost to the eventual winner Hernych. He'll give you a good run for your money though 16/1 is a bit skinny    Laugh
Report brazilian Footy March 25, 2012 11:06 PM BST
Nice call sir, thats why youre one of the few who stand the test of time on here! I had a few quid on him to beat Beck on Thursday but none on the outright.
Report jsimpson67. March 25, 2012 11:11 PM BST
Shocked
Report brazilian Footy March 25, 2012 11:16 PM BST
(Basically because any trace of outright betting seemed to disappear after the opening matches).
Report youaintseenmeright March 26, 2012 2:32 PM BST
nice Jimmy, did you back him?
Report jimmy69 March 26, 2012 2:36 PM BST
Might have done...Wink
Report youaintseenmeright March 26, 2012 2:42 PM BST
i'll take that as a yes then.. wd.
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