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By:
crmicu
When: 23 Feb 12 19:37
Thanks for the reply
What I don't understand how can you get a better odd at the bookies than the platform given that they usually charge a spread to the platforms.
As for the timing between the two trades it can easily be solved with the betfair smartphone app.
What about arbing between platforms. I guess if you write a good code there are arb opportunities every day to be exploited. Have you tried?
By:
bb66
When: 23 Feb 12 20:22
I've got arbs on 7 of the 15 Euroleague matches today, I'm happy with what I'm doing.
By:
bb66
When: 23 Feb 12 22:37
only 1 bet today on Fish, greened out after 2nd set:

Tennis / Olivetti - Fish : Wettquoten 23-Feb-12 19:45  23-Feb-12 23:17  107,74
By:
bb66
When: 25 Feb 12 00:22
3 more wins with 379 profit

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Ferrer - F Gonzalez : Wettquoten 24-Feb-12 23:30  25-Feb-12 01:04  104,86
Tennis / Del Potro - Gasquet : Wettquoten 24-Feb-12 18:30  24-Feb-12 20:39  202,07
Tennis / Tsonga - Roger Vasselin : Wettquoten 24-Feb-12 14:00  24-Feb-12 15:45  71,88
By:
bb66
When: 26 Feb 12 00:33
Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Raonic - Becker : Wettquoten 25-Feb-12 22:00  25-Feb-12 23:56  94,18
Tennis / Jaziri v Al Nabhani : Wettquoten 25-Feb-12 08:00  25-Feb-12 09:08  11,71
By:
aliboy3
When: 26 Feb 12 12:04
thanks ricky
By:
bb66
When: 26 Feb 12 22:42
one bet in play today only:

Tennis / Ferrer - Almagro : Wettquoten 26-Feb-12 20:00  26-Feb-12 22:13  38,84
By:
bb66
When: 27 Feb 12 09:05
statistics update: 171-7 is a strike rate of 96.07%, P/L=+8,865€
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 27 Feb 12 12:03
This thread is pretty pointless unless you post your selections before the game starts.
By:
gaekwon
When: 27 Feb 12 12:25
bb66, can you pick a match and give us an in-depth analysis?
I'm really interested in what triggers you to place a bet pre/in-play trading and so on
By:
bb66
When: 27 Feb 12 22:49
For sure I can't give you an analysis of my in play bets, and for the match bets, well, it may sound crazy, but its rather an intuitive exclusion of the matches where I feel there is no value in the odds, primarily because the favs are too unreliable for me, as was Fish today. I don't care if I miss such wins, as it pays off when there is only 1 loser in about 8 - 10 matches I decide to let go.

Today's wins:

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / N Djokovic - Stebe : Wettquoten 27-Feb-12 16:00  27-Feb-12 17:45  58,26
Tennis / Golubev - M Djokovic : Wettquoten 27-Feb-12 11:00  27-Feb-12 12:26  23,99

Besides, it's not guaranteed that my placed bets are matched, e.g. I have some unmatched bets for this week's 1st rd matches on ARad, Berdych, Ferrer and Murray.

Explicit no pre match bets in 1st rd are JJ, Peng, Tipsa and Fed, WTA Acapulco I will probably skip completely, as even the top seeds are either mugs or mentally extremely weak.
By:
bb66
When: 27 Feb 12 22:51
1st sentence should be ... and for the *pre match bets ...
By:
volker
When: 27 Feb 12 23:47
I done a bit of betting on tennis and try and only do matches i can watch so can do frequent bets.

I have tried to bet on matches following scores on the WTA and ATP score boards, but there seem to be 20-30 seconds sometimes behind actual play.

What the best way of getting the latest tennis scores. So being able make better bets.

Good luck. I like your thread.
By:
Frozendog
When: 28 Feb 12 03:00
BBB can't you just post a picture of your betting history?  I just joined from bet365, but they have a history section.  I've been betting on tennis for years and it hard to believe you could predict so many women's matches correctly.  They're far too erratic and unpredictable to call consistently.

I'm new, but I think you have to use a combo of favorite betting, parlay, and the high risk when the opportunity arises.  I don't think you can be successful otherwise.  And once has to be very selective and patient, wait for the right opportunity.

And, the only way you can learn how to make money betting is by LOTS of experience.  Experience will make you understand your system and how important it is to adhere to DISCIPLINE.  The number one reason we will all fail is because of emotional betting, trying to reclaim a recent loss.

I made 300 pounds into 4600 pounds this Australian Open.  Swear to god.  Then lost quite a bit in the Djocko Murray final by betting on both, first on Djocko then ALOT on Murray.  Then lost A LOT trying to reclaim it by betting on some random tennis match, and extremely stupid risky bet I knew nothing about.  I was left with 400 pounds.  Unfortunately, the emotional desire to regain your peak is the downfall of most gambler.  But I'm more disciplined than ever, and patient.
By:
noovae1
When: 28 Feb 12 06:15
I still don't get why this pointless thread is going on.
And the name of this thread is also wrong, because noone learns here how to make money and this is more like:

How to brag about my winnings after the matches are finished.
By:
gaekwon
When: 28 Feb 12 07:27
well, stop bashing the guy and let him continue
this is at least exciting to an extent
By:
ShaneESP
When: 28 Feb 12 07:37
I'll email betfair and see if I can get them to introduce a feature whereby you don't have to open a thread repeatedly if you don't want to read it. Seems it would be useful.

CrazyWhoops
By:
bb66
When: 28 Feb 12 17:15
FFS, Aggi delayed till tomorrow, and my 1.05 on Ferrer only matched for peanutsCry

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Becker - Berdych : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 13:00  28-Feb-12 16:32  172,85
Tennis / Kunitsyn - Tipsarevic : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 12:15  28-Feb-12 15:10  16,17
Tennis / A Murray - Berrer : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 11:00  28-Feb-12 13:22  98,51
Tennis / Meusburger - Peng : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 08:30  28-Feb-12 12:51  93,90
Tennis / Stakhovsky - Awadhy : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 11:00  28-Feb-12 11:48  48,62
Tennis / Bagnis - F Mayer : Wettquoten 27-Feb-12 23:15  28-Feb-12 01:38  48,55
By:
Gibbo99
When: 28 Feb 12 17:32
Rewards to low for outlay in my opinion. If it works for you then best of luck and may it continue.
By:
bb66
When: 29 Feb 12 03:08
some more bets were successful: Errani was started with a pre match lay @1.08, partially traded out pre match up to 1.16 already.

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)
Tennis / Ferrer - S Gonzalez : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 00:30  29-Feb-12 04:04  23,88
Tennis / Abdala - Duque Marino : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 00:15  29-Feb-12 03:40  10,79
Tennis / Verdasco - Volandri : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 21:45  29-Feb-12 01:12  40,47
Tennis / Errani - Falconi : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 19:15  28-Feb-12 22:14  2,72
Tennis / Kubot - Garza : Wettquoten 28-Feb-12 19:15  28-Feb-12 22:00  10,78
By:
bb66
When: 29 Feb 12 19:50
even without Aggi this was a perfect day so far, 725€ profit:

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Rosol - Tsonga : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 17:15  29-Feb-12 19:01  130,67
Tennis / F Lopez - Federer : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 16:00  29-Feb-12 17:32  117,69
Tennis / Del Potro - Golubev : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 13:30  29-Feb-12 16:29  74,77
Tennis / Lacko - Berdych : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 12:15  29-Feb-12 15:26  137,69
Tennis / N Djokovic - Stakhovsky : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 13:00  29-Feb-12 14:41  119,13
Tennis / Martic - Nara : Wettquoten 29-Feb-12 06:00  29-Feb-12 10:35  145,15
By:
smithy91
When: 29 Feb 12 22:44
unreal profits bb66. i waited two days for a pre match trade on england 2.92-3.2 for £100 profit and you've done £725 in a day. need to learn how to trade tennisLaugh
By:
deejay10
When: 29 Feb 12 23:28
Tennis: £803.04  Total P&L:  £803.04

Tennis     Showing 1 - 9 of 9 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Rosol v Tsonga : Match Odds     29-Feb-12 16:15     29-Feb-12 18:01     85.59
Tennis / F Lopez v Federer : Set Betting     29-Feb-12 15:00     29-Feb-12 16:33     113.73
Tennis / F Lopez v Federer : Match Odds     29-Feb-12 15:00     29-Feb-12 16:32     66.57
Tennis / Del Potro v Golubev : Set Betting     29-Feb-12 12:30     29-Feb-12 15:30     147.40
Tennis / N Djokovic v Stakhovsky : Set Betting     29-Feb-12 12:00     29-Feb-12 13:41     138.60
Tennis / A Murray v Chiudinelli : Set Betting     29-Feb-12 10:00     29-Feb-12 11:41     198.66
Tennis / Martic v Nara : Match Odds     29-Feb-12 05:00     29-Feb-12 09:35     27.70
Tennis / Riba v Almagro : Match Odds     29-Feb-12 03:00     29-Feb-12 04:51     10.39
Tennis / Montanes v Nishikori : Match Odds     28-Feb-12 22:00     29-Feb-12 01:26     14.40

This was my day with a £1k bank. Tennis can be very profitable and great to trade.
By:
bb66
When: 01 Mar 12 05:10
I can't remember having ever experienced such a great day, the only one a hab won more on tennis within a day was last year when Nadal lost do Ferrer at the AO.

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Ferrer - Kubot : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 04:00  01-Mrz-12 06:00  38,84
Tennis / A Radwanska - Amanmuradova : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 05:00  01-Mrz-12 05:22  102,44
Tennis / Smyczek - Tomic : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 03:00  01-Mrz-12 04:31  275,74
Tennis / Isner - Sweeting : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 01:15  01-Mrz-12 02:35  54,34

I dont want to lose my profit now, so probably the only bet for Kuala Lumpur and Dubai will be Radwanska, a least pre match.
By:
bb66
When: 01 Mar 12 09:30
Aggi in with a gifted price of 1.5 topped up in play, Ferrer the 2nd pre match bet of the day.
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 08:45
the in play bets on Djoker and JMDP had been a bit of chasing of loss I took in Biathlon.

Markt Startzeit Letztes Abrechnungsdatum Gewinn/Verlust (€)

Tennis / Ferrer - Andujar : Wettquoten 02-Mrz-12 02:00  02-Mrz-12 03:28  138,14
Tennis / Del Potro - Tsonga : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 17:15  01-Mrz-12 19:45  90,94
Tennis / Djokovic - Tipsarevic : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 16:00  01-Mrz-12 17:49  234,64
Tennis / Youzhny - Federer : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 14:00  01-Mrz-12 15:21  15,54
Tennis / Craybas - Jankovic : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 11:00  01-Mrz-12 14:13  75,51
Tennis / A Radwanska v Ka Pliskova : Wettquoten 01-Mrz-12 07:30  01-Mrz-12 09:05  202,62
By:
rickysomas1
When: 02 Mar 12 09:41
it woulsd be nice to see what's you strategy before the matches end....are your bets prematch or what?
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 10:39
as announced yesterday only ARad and Ferrer were pre match, today it's only Ferrer (ARad would have been too, glad she didn't play with an injury, could have cost me), not sure if I shall take JJ. Mainly the pre match bets are those were I expect a straight forward win, so eg I skipped Fed yesterday, coz I thought he could get in troubles.
By:
rickysomas1
When: 02 Mar 12 10:43
so you just back them when serving for the match... or for example Del Potro yesterday: you must have backed him around 76 10 0 40 or somthing like that...isn't it?
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 10:52
I took DP in 2nd set @3-0 *0-15 @1.03
By:
rickysomas1
When: 02 Mar 12 11:00
WOW you take big amounts then...what if it gets into an unbelievable but "never say nver" comeback? do yuo trade out for red or let it run and hope in a win in the end?
By:
noovae1
When: 02 Mar 12 12:06
It's only 3k if you have 300k you don't really care and just wait it out.
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 12:42
I don't have a 300k bank, sometimes 10% of it, depending how much money is tied up in my arbs.

If that match would have turned (Tsonga getting both breaks back) I probably would have risked about 500 more at better odds if I still believed in my fav, or sat it out hoping and praying. If Djoker had lost 2nd set I would have topped up for sure, at my loss on Kuzzy, where that happened I switched (redded out) - it depends on how I see the match developing.
By:
rickysomas1
When: 02 Mar 12 12:49
oh ok looks tricky but it's working for you.... Gl for the future Happy
By:
bwinnnn
When: 02 Mar 12 14:49
how much did you won today with djokovic lose? or just no bet on this match?
By:
rickysomas1
When: 02 Mar 12 14:55
bwinnnn if I understand his strategy he didn't bet on this one...
By:
bwinnnn
When: 02 Mar 12 15:09
aham.. then he always win! I must learn his technic
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 15:12
not always winning, as the posted results show, but in most cases. I always said that careful selection is the key to success.
By:
bb66
When: 02 Mar 12 17:13
this 2nd set tb between Fed and DP is the best explanation to explain, why I don't bet on such top clashes, and not betting on matches between 2 mugs is a foregone conclusion
By:
bb66
When: 03 Mar 12 05:12
started with 1,500 on Ferrer from 1.07 to 1.09 pre match, the rest was made with trades during the match. Unfortunarely JJ cancelled, would have started with 400 on her.

Tennis / Ferrer - Giraldo : Wettquoten 03-Mrz-12 04:00  03-Mrz-12 06:04  205,45
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