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Early days, but max fastest in baku. Likely they have taken upgrades off that he didn't like
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Max also a lot slower than mercedes on the straight but much faster in corners. If he can get pole he'll take some wing off to counter that straight line speed
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I think Lando winning enough of the remaining races or getting enough point swings will need incredible luck tbh, cost me a fair whack covering him but thats life.
Luke against 5/6 olympians on the night gives us big hope, especially as i see sarah and emma making the list, plus i see one of the other female para's making it like poppy. The female para's was far more successful than the men by the looks of it. All eats into the favs voting the more women on the list but if Luke is the only non Olympian he has a really big pond to fish in. |
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Brushy and army having a mass debate with each other.
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Too late, your presence has already been felt
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I turned over a new leaf this morning.............went in the garden with the blower
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That's not a very nice name for your missus
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lol just watching P2, this circuit looks a right nightmare
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Must admit I never really follow F1 these days - the sport usually bores the tits off me, as it's more about cars than drivers. Change all the cars and we'd get opposite results every year. That's not really a sport is it?
But, I do understand some groups of petrol heads will support their people in votes such as SPOTY - not convinced how many though these days...? |
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It's errr, probably double the popularity now due to netflix. All the kids into it
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Bounced back from some lows and now probably more popular than the 80s
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Poss so, in that case - though whether any of those kids are sat watching SPOTY in debateable....
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*is debateable
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If the very unlikable hamilton can manage over 200k votes i wouldn't debate that for a second
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Pre netflix
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Looks like lando just did the long runs in fp2. Red bull still looking better
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Ah, norris was held up on his fast run
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yeah he was, was just entering sector 3 and was ahead..would of been fastest probably or very close
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Might sound a bit of a claim GB, but I personally believe SPOTY has changed, even since that Hamilton win. The ladies have taken over in voting power.
Though that is somewhat of a debate I recognise. |
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Plus Hamilton did more than win one F1 season to be fair to his voters...
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Norris winning would be closer to Murray winning the US open in comparison
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stu
you knocking the petrol head vote is like me knocking the athletics vote both are extremely strong as history has proven. If and a big if lando does pull off this greatest comeback stuff, his vote is going to be seriously watered down by fans of darts and F1 plus neutrals, as will Keely's by general fans of the Olympics.Luke's best chance - no lando and many female olympians (with the unknown of pub goers watching) keely's best chance - both luke and lando, a split of male/female olympians lando's best chance - no luke and many female olympians Thats pretty much where i see it |
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Luke and Lando are close sharing sm posts about each other, so will share fans and if only one made the shortlist would get a massive push off the other
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tbf even though i think ive wasted dough covering Lando, i think he has the toughest task coz Luke makes the list as far as im concerned.
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Still don't see a sole win (if it happens) in F1 is same as multiple season wins which Hamilton had...
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Its the manor of the achievement, you seem to miss this point...its not just Luke you casually ignore regarding this fact is it lol
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So norris wouldn't be popular with ladies Stu?
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your logic is all tunnel vision, what they won. Not the journey
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or what they didn't win in Luke's case lol
F1 has now a huge female following, google it |
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Not saying he can't win it, but I wouldn't back at short prices just because he won F1, if up against a women's gold olympian.
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The comparison to Hamilton is just as GB mentioned him as example army
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Tunnel vision is also your own speciality, as you well know!
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your overplaying Keely's hand stu, the recent shift in women voting is all down to the national ladies footy team..they won't be turning up en masse this year.
Denise Lewis 2nd 2000 single gold Jess Ennis 2nd 2012 single gold Kelly won in 2004 with DOUBLE GOLD history not on your side |
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old votes those army, before the voters and voting population changed...
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lol voting has dropped off a cliff, Jess got 372,000 votes
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The only reason 3 women have won the last 3 awards is coz of the impact they had, not down to this new women voting power you've dreamt up in ya head
emma rad did something amazing, not losing a set at young age beth was part of a championship winning team mary won an extremely poor year of sport and had a shirt story im not getting this total shift in voting down to its now 90% women voting ![]() ![]() |
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woman watch footy
woman watch F1 woman watch darts if there has been a shift i'd say more women now watch a lot more different sport than they did when womens athletics had its spoty heydey from 2000-2012. if there has been a shift, its the fact older ladies probably don't watch the above sports and stick with athletics mostly, whereas the new younger generation are growing up with these sports coz of there tv growth and growth in general. its a proven fact all the 3 sports above are now being watched by more women since 2000, i'd be gobsmacked if more women are watching athletics now than in 2000. it all points to athletics getting fewer votes from this younger generation of females, its really not rocket science |
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Men still dominate tv voting
spoty since 2000 18 men 6 women strictly 12 men 9 women iac 13 men 10 women going by your logic especially concerning the latter two there, where we all know its probably way more women vote than men coz we can't be arsed. why is it that men win more than women ?? |
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jill scott won iac, and two other members of the womens footy team won spoty in the last two years.
keely is best friends with lioness Ella Toone, does that mean all those female footy voters will all vote for her ? i guess it all depends whether they watch athletics/F1/darts as well as footy lol tbf the Ella Toone connection is a plus but end of the day keely is an athlete not an england footy player |