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I had to do all the bloody checks just for paying in 5k a while back
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Try winning a bit, you wont need to top up so regular...
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Not surprised lol get warnings as well if you deposit too much over a month period say
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Was that your Harris plunge
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Hark at all these successful gamblers!! :)
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The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award returns next month, with some of the biggest names in UK sport vying to join names such as Lewis Hamilton, Andy Murray and Jonny Wilkinson as winners.
The prestigious prize, which is judged via a public vote, is given to the sportsperson who is seen to have been the most successful in the last year, though several other factors, such as the general impact of the athlete, are also taken into account. In 2023, Lionesses goalkeeper Mary Earps won the award off the back of her performances in the 2023 Women’s World Cup, which included a now-famous penalty save in the final against Spain. The official nominees for the award will be announced around a week before the ceremony, though there are some indications as to the early contenders. Luke Littler is another early contender, with the now-17 year old enjoying a breakout year in the darts world after becoming the youngest ever player to reach the PDC World Darts Championship final (which he later lost to Luke Humphries). What are the other awards on the night? There is an award for the Young Sports Personality of the Year, which is awarded to a sportsperson who is aged 17 or under as of 1 January 2024. Again, the nominees are not yet known, though previous winners include Tom Daley, Phil Foden and Wayne Rooney. Littler yet again mentioned as a leading contender for the MAIN award and not referenced in any way to getting young SPOTY in accordance with every other article written this year. full article here . https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/when-sports-personality-spoty-december-2024-b2649926.html People saying no uproar if not listed are ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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lol brushy
im either getting FOTY or MOTY |
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Or TWOTTY
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more like TOTTY with my potential winnings
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12 experts on a panel put forward a shortlist of 6 the last few years. 3 of which are from the BBC. How much influence do they have? Are they like Obama and Pelosi in the DNC where they have too much influence and can sway the panel to put Littler in the YSPOTY. If they all voted independently and with no BBC influence you would think Littler was a shoe in for the big show, but with their influence it adds a cloud to it for sure. The market seems quite adamant that the 3 BBC panelists will sway the other 9.
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Horsesh1t, every fact and bit of evidence we have thats been posted on here mostly by me, says he is far more likely to get on the list than not.
The market indicates the thoughts of the majority of punters who post on this forum and DS |
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Guessing how the panel works is not fact or evidence AR
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BBC articles this year
Keely 10-15 Jan-Aug Littler Jan-now 100+ Keely Sep-now ZERO Littler Sep-now 17 or so |
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The only evidence i see is Keely has done something to p1ss the BBC off
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If the punters don't want to believe this or accept this, so be it. But there is no proof they will leave him off so Keely benefits.
Unless you want to play conspiracy theorist and say this is the BBC's way of not making obvious they are planning just that |
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BBC sport last tweeted about Keely on 21st Aug to say she will miss the rest of the season and not tweeted anything since.
She has had loads of stories since then about her across other media channels, she does not have to be competing to have articles written about her. The BBC for whatever reason has disowned her, this has never happened before with other potential winners. Has she not done anything in the community like other sports people have done since the games ? or has she just done fashion shoots and promotions ? maybe the BBC are not willing to write articles or promote her in this way, im finding it rather bizarre myself. Every media outlet copy cats good stories or articles, especially about superstar athletes |
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https://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/sport/21112024-keely-hodgkinson-coach-opens-up-on-what-makes-an-athlete-a-prospect-for-an-olympic-medal/ . https://www.skysports.com/more-sports/athletics/news/12028/13253283/keely-hodgkinson-britains-paris-olympics-800m-gold-medallist-on-path-to-more-success-in-2025 . https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/keely-hodgkinson-uka-diamond-league-grand-slam-b2646023.html . https://athleticsweekly.com/interviews/keely-hodgkinson-the-making-of-a-champion-1039992785/ . https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2024/11/12/keely-hodgkinson-london-diamond-league-silverstone/ . https://www.thetimes.com/sport/athletics/article/trevor-painter-jenny-meadows-keely-hodgkinson-interview-athletics-80qn5q0x2 . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13930251/Olympic-champion-Keely-Hodgkinson-running-horrible.html . https://www.skysports.com/more-sports/athletics/video/30964/13253197/exclusive-how-keely-hodgkinson-plans-to-break-world-800m-record . https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/olympic-gold-medallist-keely-hodgkinson-interview-with-man-utd . https://www.wonderlandmagazine.com/2024/09/26/keely-hodgkinson/ . https://athleticsweekly.com/blog/why-keely-hodgkinsons-beach-sessions-could-work-for-you-1039992713/ . https://athleticsweekly.com/featured/keely-hodgkinson-and-phoebe-gill-shortlisted-for-european-athletics-awards-1039993495/ . https://www.teamgb.com/article/paris-2024-athletes-awarded-at-the-sja-british-sports-awards/2A1s23eOHtTuPBjxK3Uwz5 |
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All of them are positive news stories written from September
Why is the BBC not writing any ???????????? |
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Market has totally stalled since yesterday when Keely and Yee winning women’s and men’s SJA best sportsperson. Keely was obvious but Yee was bit of a shock winner. Winner of Breakthrough ATHLETE (surely that could be a trades description problem in the future) was Littler.
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Feelgood winner = Keely or Luke would achieve this
The big question for the future of the show is whether it wants to go in a new direction or keep it as its stagnated self, viewing figs and voting figs have dropped off a cliff were led to believe. Luke Littler gives the BBC a chance to freshen up the show in a very big way, with a fresh audience consisting of all age groups. Which could see the biggest ratings they've had in years resulting in bigger voting figures. Do they want it ? |
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SJA just went with best performances with nod to possible future. Nothing wrong with that.
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SJA get premium sports right nearly all the time regarding winner of SPOTY.
They are also a bunch of stuck up snobby pr1cks like the hardcore SPOTY audience, to scared to promote or vote for darts as an equal. They completely ignored Taylor in 2010. The wider public middle and lower classes will enter the arena in a massive way if Littler gets on the list and turn the vote into more of a RTV event, instead of the historical premium vote its always been. The closest SPOTY has ever been to this before was actually the Taylor year when McCoy beat him, horse punters/dart punters/pub people. So its been done before and will be done again if he gets on the list. If he don't the whole night will be one massive borefest all about the games |
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10 min Young Spoty feature. The 17 year old who might win the world championship one day if not in 2 weeks time.
Can’t have riots after that ? |
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Needs to sort his hair out. Looks like he’s just got out of bed every time I see him.
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Every Keely backer who has not greened out will be preying for that, good luck to em coz if he gets on the list he p1sses home
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Max struggling in vegas, wouldn't be a surprise for lando to take quite a chunk here
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The best result possible for lando is 36 points adrift with 2 races left
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Lets put some clarity on the SJA results and see why premium sports rule the roost over our nations 'pub' sports.
1981 Steve Davis 2nd SPOTY - SJA nowhere 1982 Alex Higgans 2nd SPOTY - SJA nowhere 1984 Steve Davis 3rd SPOTY - SJA 3rd 1987 Steve Davis 2nd SPOTY - SJA nowhere 1988 Steve Davis won SPOTY - SJA nowhere 1989 Steve Davis 3rd SPOTY - SJA nowhere 1990 Stephen Hendry 2nd SPOTY - SJA nowhere 2010 Phil Taylor 2nd SPOTY - SJA nowhere Only once did the SJA recognise a pub game in there lists and only once since 1981 has a pub game won SPOTY, Time for change !! |
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Ive took out some insurance and reversed my top 3 bet, now 1000 green if they shaft him for list.
Back (Bet For) Odds Stake Profit Luke Littler 3.47 £712.32 £1,756.02 Lay (Bet Against) Backer's odds Backer's stake Payout Liability Luke Littler 2.01 £1,734.42 £1,755.32 |
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Littler and Humphries progress at Players Championship
Luke Littler continued his stunning form as he beat Danny Noppert 10-3 to reach the Players Championship quarter-finals in Minehead, where he was joined by world number one Luke Humphries. Seventeen-year-old sensation Littler beat Ritchie Edhouse 6-2 in the second round in Saturday's afternoon session, before returning to comfortably see off Noppert. Littler, who hit seven 180s, averaged 104.70 and had a highest checkout of 129 against Noppert, will play Mike de Decker in the next round. "When I go on these little bursts, I feel like nobody can touch me," said Littler. Humphries beat Raymond van Barneveld 6-3 in the afternoon session before a 10-6 win against Damon Heta. The defending champion was not on his best form in beating Heta as he averaged 96.98 and had a highest checkout of 104. "There were so many visits where I felt I had so much more to give," said Humphries, who will play Ryan Joyce in the quarter-finals. "So many 140s and not enough 180s. I'm trying to keep up with Luke and try to put in a good level. "At the end of the day I've won and that's all that matters. It takes me into Sunday and I can go again." Littler and Humphries will meet in the final if they continue to progress. "Luke is playing some absolutely phenomenal darts right now," said Humphries. "He's probably the best player in the world at the moment, but I know I've got a level to match that." And there is the SPOTY endorsement from the world number 1 . https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/articles/c93q493q5g9o |
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Not sure this will air in time for SPOTY, same as Bullseye won't !
ROB & ROMESH VS RETURNS TO SKY WITH DARTS SPECIAL FEATURING LUKE LITTLER Sky have announced that Rob & Romesh Vs will return to screens this December with a Darts special. The nation tuned in night-after-night to watch Luke 'The Nuke' Littler's festive fairytale, as he rewrote history to become the youngest ever player to reach the World Championship Final. And with a record audience of 4.8 million, (beyond football) the match was the most watched sports event ever on Sky too. Following his heroic debut, the PDC have granted Rob and Romesh special access to the teenage star — alongside other top players — as he prepares for his redemption run. Not only will the boys learn what it takes to come within touching distance of the crown, they'll need to sharpen up their own skills for a special head-to-head challenge the PDC have arranged, in front of a sold-out Alexandra Palace at this year’s World Championship. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- St Helens Darts Academy welcome Luke Littler for 'Rob & Romesh Vs' COMEDIANS, TV cameras, and a very special darts player arrived in St Helens last night to film a one-off television episode. With demand for darts growing exponentially since Luke Littler reached the final of the World Championship earlier this year, a huge amount of attention has also been shown to his former darts academy in St Helens. With TV cameras previously heading to the St Helens Darts Academy for the screening of Littler's World Championship final in January, another production team came to the town this week to film an episode of 'Rob & Romesh Vs' First broadcast in 2019, 'Rob & Romesh Vs' is a Sky television production that features comedians Rob Beckett and Romesh Ranganathan meeting people from the worlds of sports and entertainment. With five previous series, the pair have filmed with heavyweight boxer Anthony Joshua, the world record holder for the 100m sprint Usain Bolt, Wimbledon winner Andy Murray, and the England national football team. Filming for series six - which is planned to air towards the end of the year - Rob, Romesh, and the Sky team visited Sidac Social Club on Wheatsheaf Avenue on Monday, May 20, for a special episode of darts taking on the Warrington-based Littler. After an interview with Littler around the Social Club, Rob and Romesh took on the young darts star in a handful of games on the Academy boards, with 12 lucky members of the Academy invited along to the filming and committee member Matthew Pearson announcing the scoring. Karl Holden, who launched the St Helens Darts Academy 11 years ago, said: "It was a great night at the Academy, and we're really happy that Rob and Romesh chose us as a place to film. "Luke is always so down to earth so it was great to see him again, and he took the time to speak to the young lads and sign some equipment. "Rob had played a little bit of darts before but Romesh had never played at all - so they both needed a bit of tips from myself!" With an "unbelievable" amount of kids wanting to play darts since Littler's rise to fame, the Academy has been offering additional sessions on a Wednesday and supporting new venues in Warrington, Runcorn, and Bolton to cope with the demand. While Karl admitted that it has been tough to cope with this demand at times, he said it is great that the sport is receiving so much attention. With a "great committee" at the Academy, Karl also said the club is always looking for further sponsors and funds to help fund players compete in championships across the country. . https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/24334749.st-helens-darts-academy-welcome-luke-littler-rob-romesh-vs/ |
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I don't think they can leave littler off list having named him
in their preamble the other day. Of course they "can" but surely he's in A good show this week and the wagon picks up yet more momentum. |
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I'm certainly a lot more confident of shortlisting now, found form exactly at the right time to seal the deal. Definitely helped
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I hope you both enjoyed by even money give away, i was making up for in the outright the last week or so. grabbing as much 5.4+ as i could so not the end the of world, when he goes 1.10 for top 3 lol
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If he gets on the list he absolutely hoses in, Keely is a star but Luke is a superstar with mega celebrity status that dwarfs Keely's
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Problem with that is if he gets 2nd or 3rd though army - then both markets are losers. Tricky one.
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Nah, not really stu. Once he gets on the list and the market realises his momentum and his polling, he goes odds on 100%. If at that point i need to take some stake money back i can think about it.
Its all gravy from here |
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It might even take till the 15th for him to go fav, if the show is on that night when the worlds start. SM will absolutely only be talking about one thing that night, and it won't be the worlds are starting. It will be vote for Litter
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Getting the darts fans refocused via world championships would
be a huge boost to his voting. Getting folk to register on bbc to vote might prove biggest problem to his chances,... |
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The online vote only is no more yhtl, you can still vote online and by phone on the night.
No probs whatsoever there |