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How much and how it influences them will be the question.
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You need to read the criteria again Stu
If you think Humphries has had a bigger impact on darts than littler then you're probably the only 1 in the country |
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The same criteria work well for cav, whereas the same logic as yours doesn't
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And broad last year, he did bugger all
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cricket a team sport though? Cycling no WC tournament?
Not disagreeing with that bear, still don't think we can claim a sitting WC who beat him won't come up in their discussions when deciding what to do. I still think the obv solution is giving him Young Persons, to recognise his impact (despite not being the WC in his sport) |
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Cav won spoty when he was world champion lol. Road race
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Maybe I missed this in the 100,000 posts but Young SPOTY is nominated by representatives from BBC, Youth sport trust, a blue Peter presenter a young blue Peter guest judge. The pick 10 people and then reconvene to choose top 3 and decide winner by secret ballot.
Someone just mentioned it earlier to me and I had no idea. So no vote on day. Littler could already selected and winner before the final nominations for main SPOTY are made. Is this right or Wikipedia wrong ? |
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The young Spoty award bollox is just that,, it's a tinpot award decided by the likes of Blue Peter presenters and blue Peter badge winners and a few more irrelevants..
Tom Daley and Gadirova both made both lists in the same year If you don't think Littler is a bigger draw than Gadirova then i give up |
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TBH I'm unsure about whether he'll be listed for the main, or not. That's why I'm not laying him T3.
But it's a fair danger in backing him currently in any markets. |
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The or price fully accounts for this danger, watch what happens if he's listed
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If he's listed, yes it will be interesting to see how much he shortens. I've always kept his +/- onside while having Keely my big green, so not too worried if he gets listed - would decide then if to let it ride or take an even green. That might depend on whether there's much real sign he will get a mass vote, or not, in SPOTY.
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That wasn’t what I meant. I thought you voted on the day for both awards not one was selected maybe weeks before.
Can’t remember order of show but if Young Spoty award is presented after say 30 mins then people could ignore him and vote for others in the final 6. Just thinking outside the box. |
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I think we'd all be hammering the price, not sure if you'd get a flip flop but fairly close
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Be just like giggs
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GB you are the next to have been assimilated by the 'army'
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It's like the Borg, just with more swearing boozing and slot machines
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Hibore 08 Nov 24 17:22
That wasn’t what I meant. I thought you voted on the day for both awards not one was selected maybe weeks before. Can’t remember order of show but if Young Spoty award is presented after say 30 mins then people could ignore him and vote for others in the final 6. Just thinking outside the box. My guess is he has become way too big for young SPOTY anyway, in recent times its been given to someone no one really knows. The last time it was won by someone as well knows as Littler was back in 2010 when Tom Daley won it and was already talk of the town. Depends when its decided i suppose, again my guess is, if they already know he's not the main list they might well give it to some other kid who has done well. Instead of wasting on Littler, again this is another unknown the organisers will have to sort out. |
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if they already know he's on* the main list
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Its basically so rare to get generation talent this good at 17 years of age, which is why were discussing it lol
but the facts are quite clear, he's been smashing adults all year and beating world champions all year |
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I think you'll find i was miles ahead of army on this one stu.
And bear was ahead of me tbf |
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The other big factor you have to take into consideration is, the 9 members of the panel are all seriously into sport. I mean ordinary non sport folk, a fair amount have heard of Littler...but im guessing the ones that are involved in sport day in day out like they are will know exactly who he is and how much of an impact he has had this year. So its not like only 3 of them know him well and only them 3 will fight his corner, all 9 will know him well which gives him a much better chance a couple or a few will fight hard to convince the rest.
Take Jessica Gadirova for example, how many of the panel knew what she achieved before sitting down at the table...most probably googled her the minute they knew they'd be on the panel. |
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Its called playing Devils Advocate brushy
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It seemed more like chasing a useless lycra bird down a toilet of doom
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We know its far more likely he gets listed than not, 80/20 in his favour i'd say which means backing him is pure value..but you have to give the other side hope lol
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I can't even imagine the mega meltdown that would happen on SM on Dec15th if he wasn't on the shortlist, the BBC will know the world championship starts that day. Will they want all those darts fans tuning in to give them boosted ratings ?
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Trump winning presidency would be nothing compared to Littler not being in final nominations. Starter would have riots on his hands.
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Starmer *
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Considering the 2nd fav has always made the list, you or no-one has any idea what the reaction would be. There is no historical occurrences to this possible outcome.
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My guess is society would rapidly decline into a state pre industrial
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I'd also add, the uproar it would cause as it stands is immaterial. The documentary will undoubtedly raise his profile further and given what is shown including any jovial/emotional bits could well end up causing real grief if he's not listed.
So lets all sit back and watch it with much enthusiasm |
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Might be easier for Keely, Cav and Lando to withdraw from SPOTY before civilisation ceases post Litter not winning ?
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Will the market panic if Keely doesn't win the Sunday Times award ?
Excellent cases for a few, Emma, Sarah and Bryony all have strong claims...not sure Keely is that popular after fecking off on holiday. Bryony was a flag bearer |
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Bryony is current european, world and olympic champion...as well as being the 1st female gymnast to win a gold medal.
Now thats something really special, as well as sticking around to bear the flag |
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Georgia Bell (Athletics)
Laura Collett (Eventing) Emma Finucane (Cycling) Keely Hodgkinson (Athletics) Katarina Johnson-Thompson (Athletics) Bryony Page (Trampolining) Amber Rutter (Shooting) Sarah Storey (Para-Cycling) |
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I'd back Bryony for this all day long, and a few quid on my Emma
 why is Bryony not on exchange for SPOTY, she could be a short price  |
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I think you'll find i was miles ahead of army on this one stu.
And bear was ahead of me tbf Yes, was more meaning the 'smash the prices in' predictions really - that's an army copywrite  |
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Might happen, but I won't be joining in that for Luke, even if he's on the list personally.
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I'm wondering, why is Cav being backed shorter than Luke in T3 market, but far longer on the win market - he also has fair danger of being left off the main comp, maybe even more than Luke...?
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Fairly simply, people want to lay luke t3 and back the win
No such interest in cav, nobody thinks he'll win |
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Unless Littler discovers a cure for all cancer in the next 56 days he can’t win. Full stop.
BBC aren’t going to have VT with his 3 dart average. |