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Max just always delivers
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Stu and army will need to send him a Christmas card
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If you didn't watch he had his first lap binned, massive pressure, very few fast laps the whole weekend.....
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Good old Max yes
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There will be shenanigans at turn 1.... 200mph by the time they get there, fastest of the season
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Thanks Jim for the Phil data, not actually sure he was overly popular with dart fans, no doubt respected him but many were just as fed up he was winning everything. Luke's vote will have a lot more goodwill involved in it.
Humphries looks nailed on for anther title, yeah Mr nice guy but my god he's dull. You can already see the feisty attitude part of Littler that the greats had...but it will cause some friction for the panel with Humphries playing so well. If they stick to the criteria, then Littler has achieved both parts. A nation includes people outside of the sport they partake in so everyday people. Littler has definitely done this, whereas Humphries would of hardly impacted anyone outside of darts. Criteria include a person's sporting achievements in the past year, plus their impact across the nation I also firmly believe the panel have one eye on the betting market, it has to be a massive indicator to both parts of the criteria and the panel would want to keep the public happy. Market favs just don't get left off the list |
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Turn 1 is gonna be crazy, but Lando can't afford to attack that hard and will certainly not want to be anywhere near Max at that 1st corner.
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Being timid can often land you in more trouble than aggression
Though there's been a lot of talk from lando on how he was outmuscled, i think he might go gung ho. |
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Pressure is on him to be aggressive, he's just not very good at it lol
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Yeah, and obviously any abject failure and max is wc
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One crash and he's done yes.
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Too much to take in there, but 20 seconds seemed very harsh on max
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Fool to himself really, Lando was always gonna get past him so should of played damage limitation. After getting away with last weekend he pushed his luck.
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10 points not enough though, av gone up to 12 points per weekend
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Yeah, a bit chumpy from max, no need and cost himself 2 points.
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Cost himself 4 points i think brushy, without the 20 second pen he would of finished +39 seconds and slotted into 4th for 12 points. Instead of 6th for 8 points. Max needs to take a breath and do his maths ffs, 4th place from here virtually guarantees the title coz Lando won't win all the races.
Mclaren's race pace is by far the best especially on that hard tyre but its the qualy times that feck em and without getting on pole that advantage disappears down the road. Actually think the 2nd incident, the dive bomb was intended to take Lando out the race lol Horner needs to really reign Max in, he'd probably get away with 5th every race from here, without the sprints. Even if Lando won two and came runner up in the other two, Max would still be a point up. |
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Pretty sure Max's power unit was knackered pre-race and he switched it for an earlier one instead of taking the grid pen for a new one. Certainly appears he'll need a fresh one to see out the season, hard to know how much difference it made coz he's constantly on the radio whinging about everything lol
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Max did get two penalty points on his licence to take him to 6 points in total, 12 points sees a one race ban. Blimey lol
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How do you guys rate the odds for the drivers championship now (aside from SPOTY)?
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Certainly didn't blow out of it just yet, annoyingly.
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The market is on a knife edge stu, i don't think it knows what its doing. Both markets came for Lando even though his position in the title race was made even harder, with the av points needed going up.
Its a strange scenario, i guess it means a last race shootout for the title on the eve of the shortlist announcement would put Lando in an extremely strong position, and even though its a big ask that event is more likely given the difference in total points. So both markets are weary. |
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Also the market knows Max is a headcase and seemingly can drive only one way, mega attacking. He races smart he wins easily but.........
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Gotta laugh at Russell who is director of the Grand Prix drivers association has come out and said 19/20 drivers are happy for new driving guidelines to be implemented immediately, after all the drivers and stewards met before the Mexico race to discuss the situation.
There was an app vote between the drivers lol oh i do wonder who the 1 driver was that didn't want the changes to happen  No wonder he was peeved off during the race |
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I've always found motor sport problematic for these type of reasons - no-one has ever truly clearly defined what is and isn't acceptable in sport where overtakes are clearly fine margins in driving - similar happens in bike racing, but it's worse when the cars are basically far bigger on the tracks.
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Appears to me with my short experience of this sport, its virtually impossible to have any clear rules. They don't even know where the apex of a bend is lol
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I wonder what our resident F1 expert GB thinks about it?
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He's at the weekly AA meeting
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ooh you'll be on his naughty list |
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So its looking odds on that Max will have a new engine put in before Brazil, he's already had an extra 1 over the permitted 4. Which gave him a 10 place grid penalty. For some reason, if you need another one after that like Max needs you only get a 5 place grid penalty for the 2nd one.
Brazil is ok for overtaking and is the best out of the 4 remaining circuits, so not the end of the world and will give Max full performance till the end of season verses Lando's used engine. He's not needed an extra one but if he does need one he will get the 10 place grid penalty. Bit of catch 22 for him hoping he can see out the season by the looks of it without needing one. . https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/verstappen-poised-for-brazilian-gp-grid-penalty/10667855/ Speed trap figures across the start/finish straight, before DRS is activated, showed Verstappen topped out at 251.4km/h – which was well adrift of team-mate Sergio Perez on 253.4km/h. Verstappen was second slowest of all at the first intermediate trap, logging 299.6km/h compared to Perez on 303.1 and title rival Lando Norris on 307.9km/h. With Red Bull already on the back foot with its RB20 struggling to match the race form of Ferrari and McLaren, the team knows it probably needs to commit to a fresh power unit to help boost Verstappen’s hopes – and Interlagos makes sense because it is a track where overtaking is easier. |
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The fact is, even with that used engine he used which was supposed to be for practice sessions he still managed to easily climb back up to 6th place. So even with a grid pen, he may start way down if the worse happens and he has a bad qualy session. But you'd still fancy him to get some decent points and then be strong for the last 3 races.
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What am i commenting on? Odds?
Probably about right for wc Yeah, max still gained but rb looked awful, mac good on the hard tyres, like you say engine penalty to come. I layed a bit of 4.2 but not much juice in the price either way |
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All these incidents are increasing, but these cars are like bloody dodgems now
In the old days you had highly dangerous bombs going round. I still hate some of the drivers like Jones and Patrese that would push people off but it was more rare |
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Because of that danger. They wouldn't push people off, cos it could happen to them too
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You have these great big run off areas where you can push people so, used to be armco and walls
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Do you think there's any way to define what is within the racing rules clearly enough though GB - i.e. what's a legal move and what isn't?
I find that hard must admit. |
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Then again, suppose it's similar to stuff like footy, where they debate fouls, red cards etc?
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Max in austin ok, max in mexico bad. Yeah it's hard. Sometimes it takes me a while tonwork out what's happened, especially with incidents 4 corners apart. No need max :(
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Tbf, the stewards are getting it right, unlike a few years ago
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TBF that's prob better than the footy refs then
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The market curse has appeared 'Winner without Keely'
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