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Rooooot
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130 monster price if you're interested in him?
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Looks like taken...
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Highest test run scorer of all time for England - potential to be interesting if there's a cricket vote support out there for this...
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If anyone can use it, Ladbroke/Coral slowest to react and cut his price in...
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Nobody cares
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Cricket fans?
They did when it was Stokes |
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Root arguably has bigger claim to a cricket campaign vote than Stokes did - lifetime and nation achievement awarded.
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Meh, compare that summer on national tv, with this plodding accumulation of runs.
Let us know when he passes tendulkar |
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Would be a different type of support I'd agree, and for different reason - but we've noted the elements of 'lifetime/career' award for the main SPOTY in the past (Giggs anyone?), Cav this year etc...and cricket fans can get behind one of their own we know.
He's still an outsider for me, but a live one. |
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Yorkshire vote, live outsider is fair summation.
You'd think the nominations had been made without him the way market has not reacted. |
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Shortened a fair bit, from 130+ into around 55, but arguably if he was on the shortlist should be shorter.
Why should he not be on the shortlist would be a question really, in a fairly thin year? |
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130 to 55 doesn't take much its just over 1% chance.
I'd shortlist him, but I don't get a vote. |
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Wayne Rooney was NEVER shortlisted in the era of 16 nominations even when he broke Sir Bobby Charlton's England scoring record.
Harry Kane wasn't shortlisted when he broke Rooney's England scoring record. I doubt Root will be shortlisted for just that. |
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Oddly despite the Olympics, it's a fairly thin year this year for sport though.
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Root was shortlisted before, got about 20 votes
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And was about 300
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which year was he on shortlist?
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See, you can't even remember it :)
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When cook broke the record in 2015, he was also captain of the England team that won the Ashes. It was a 12 person list, non Olympic year, and he never got a nomination.
Roots done nothing even remotely close to that and it's probably a 6 person list. |
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Fair points about how cricket has to overcome some bias against it in this award.
ps I don't think Root was nominated previously looking back? There were some complaints though when he wasn't in 2015. |
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For Root to win, would need to be recognised by the beeb as a sport, and some well of cricket supporters to come together to support their sport - not impossible, but still an outsider.
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Roots done nothing even remotely close
Beaten Cook's record, highest test match centuries, highest test match 50s, add the 'career achievement' angle too. Wouldn't say nothing remotely is accurate. |
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It's nothing compared to captaining England to Ashes victory, that's the holy grail of English cricket, and if Cook couldn't make it on the shortlist Root has zero chance
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It is a bias for sure, but that may have changed since (Stokes lifted cricket back somewhat) since.
Root also made his achievements quicker than anyone else (including Cook). End of day, the nom process is very unpredictable as it's just a few individuals doing it here. Could go either way. |
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In other news...what is people's thinking on Ainslee - looks like the current crush of the market to win?
It would be an achievement for sure in the America's cup, but surely this is a minority sport and therefore vote? |
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was on shortlist after 3rd gold medal, got 35,000 votes, again on list after 4th gold medal and got 35,000 again.
Ben has no chance whatsoever, sailing is niche beyond niche..way too beige even Keely will slaughter his vote |
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i'd also add how the feck do you make sailing appear interesting in a VT, it has to be the dullest sport on the planet to watch for neutrals especially.
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2013 he was on list for 3rd time
Helped mastermind an unlikely victory for Oracle Team USA (winning 9–8 after being 1–8 down) in the America's Cup. 48,000 for this, he will need 200,000+ imo to win this years |
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The America's cup would be something of an historic win for GB, but would think it is also much more a team effort also - he relies on some great performers to do much of the work, e.g. in contrast to someone like Root being the 'best player' in a team.
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Likely to get the team award if they do it IMO
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Considering England men already picked up the team award for losing the previous euro's and footy in general has won the last 4 team awards. I agree the team award would almost be a certainty if Ben leads them to success.
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If Ben and Lando were to fail, and i make Cav a very strong fav to collect the lifetime award given how many cyclists are competing for the shortlist. Then just maybe Root could sneak onto the list, as only one of Tom or Alex would get on. The rock climbing lad would maybe competing with Root.
The list if 6 places like it has been for the last 6 years would look like this for me Luke Tom rock climber/root keely emma sarah storey Tom may well miss out as well, with the two girl cyclists a given imo which could help Root out. If either Ben or Lando win titles then even harder for Root as Tom and rock climber would get ditched as well imo. ofc they can make the shortlist bigger upto 8 places possibly. Immaterial though as Root wouldn't get past Emma's vote total for me |
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lol you're still sticking with Emma
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I'd rather Ben, Lando and Root were kept off the list as it enhances Luke's chances and the top 3 place is still looking interesting if that happens as ive still got EW bets on Emma riding.
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Obviously bear, its still a very thin selection to choose from. I suppose the trampoline girl could get in. There isn't many women that can get listed is there ? She was just as much the star of the games as Keely was, as written in many papers.
My 3 certs are Luke, Emma and the fav |
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Then the rest will depend on Ben and Lando
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Emma needs to get in as she would dilute the fav's vote to some extent, being both young female Olympians. Keely would guarantee pick some of the votes Emma would get.
Probably all hogwash anyway as Littler will win by a landslide if Lando fails that is  |
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Keely backers will be dreading that 0.5% reduction in vote due to Emma
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Fav backers are desperate for only her and Sarah to make the list i would imagine, its the best chance she has. Which would be more likely if Ben and Lando make the list....its the same story for Lando and Luke, regardless of how many votes it is. They would take some votes off each other the same as the girls would.
If your're playing this market for a year, you want the best scenario possible for your pick  |