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Lifter
20 Nov 23 21:49
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Choo chooo!

Backed him around 9s pre-show and greened up a bit at 5s, but the current price around 8s is INSANE value.

Cheeky chap who will get a lot of screentime, kind, and happy, but has a vulnerable side that will be shown.

Mems will love his "pure heart".

May take a bit to beat Josie, but he goes close.
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Report armagnac November 29, 2023 4:34 PM GMT
my dad, 74 said earlier he will annoy them lol
Report armagnac November 29, 2023 4:36 PM GMT
Sam is full on marmite now jack, gotta be bad in a h2h
Report timbuctooth November 29, 2023 5:23 PM GMT
armagnac Joined: Nov 23 16:25 
Did Sam push Jamie over the edge with the crying wolf comment?

Yes! The evil bast@rd clearly deeply hurt her, should be thrown out for bullying, anti-American racism, cultural misappropriation, wolfism, and whatever other wokester term Nella can dream up
Report armagnac November 29, 2023 5:30 PM GMT
lol
Report GeorgeBrush November 29, 2023 6:16 PM GMT
Sam jot only is a great campster, he also kills off ones i can't stand!!!
Report GeorgeBrush November 29, 2023 6:16 PM GMT
Not*
Report timbuctooth November 29, 2023 6:24 PM GMT
He recognised Jungle Jamie as his main rival, cruelly and unnecessarily taunted and bullied her into leaving
Report armagnac November 29, 2023 6:26 PM GMT
lol
Report Angela Rebecchi November 29, 2023 6:47 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report GeorgeBrush November 29, 2023 6:53 PM GMT
I think it was more like him flicking a bug off his arm
Report The Kitten November 30, 2023 6:45 PM GMT
Whoever backed my £50 multiple lays of Sam………Thankyou very much!
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:16 PM GMT
Do I win forumite of the year yet?
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:20 PM GMT
banger of a show, but just remember his cards are played Wink
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:22 PM GMT
Yeah, only playing. That is as good as it gets for Sam and we can't expect that every time
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:24 PM GMT
i really believe josie has to overcome her fears or sam will win by a street, and if itv give josie Gio type trials it won't be enough. she has to face spiders and beat them to win imo
Report TheBorg November 30, 2023 10:26 PM GMT
Only bilp I see is that Sam appears to be getting more manic.
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 10:29 PM GMT
Make josie do what fern had to do :)
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:31 PM GMT
lol not allowed pc woke world
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:33 PM GMT
probably blagging it with itv guidance, pretend your scared of spiders, we'll do the rest
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:34 PM GMT
what an edit for Sam though, i will enjoy watching that again tomorrow
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 10:38 PM GMT
Do you have a pissed viewing and a hangover viewing?
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:42 PM GMT
i never watch the night episode properly, either typing or betting lol
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 10:45 PM GMT
It'll be all over as soon as the vtw starts .

Sunday ?
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:49 PM GMT
who knows, two walkers. probably 1 a night still works
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:50 PM GMT
just hope we don't see his CBB form show up Wink
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:52 PM GMT
Just checked out his Instagram and it is popping. 2-5 million views on each of his reels. He is so winning this.
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:54 PM GMT
His team are putting up a lot of pre-recorded content me made with co-host and friend Pete. Doing well to keep momentum going
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 10:54 PM GMT
you going all in ?
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:56 PM GMT
No point going in at 1.8 after getting him 6-8. His chances have only slightly increased IMO since the opening post. I'd let him win at that price, as anything can happen now, but the leader during the first VTW usually wins, so the momentum will make him hard to beat
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 10:57 PM GMT
Don't give a fck about Instagram but i have people texting me that sam is gonna win. This like never happens
Report Lifter November 30, 2023 10:57 PM GMT
Well, it's basically more than the whole show's audience watching his clips - all in the voting demographic
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 10:57 PM GMT
1.8 could look a lot of value if the first vote goes as i expect
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 11:00 PM GMT
yeah, im not brave enough myself even though looks a cert...very long way to go with reduced numbers, i can see more swings yet and josie has her cards to play. will she cry over the weight issues she's had ??
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 11:02 PM GMT
False favs have been turned over in the final week like Wright, but I'm not sure that much happens
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 11:03 PM GMT
Yinrun would have managed to win bb if it were 3 weeks
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 11:05 PM GMT
anyone else but josie to beat, he'd be 1.3 now
we know she has got cards to play
she always gets very good edits
the market is clearly very scared of her
Report GeorgeBrush November 30, 2023 11:07 PM GMT
Josie would be double figures without you backing :)
Report armagnac November 30, 2023 11:10 PM GMT
still red clown ?
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 9:28 AM GMT
i guess now the whole country knows about his ADHD, every fecker knows someone that has it and how annoying they are lol
im not sure how much sympathy ADHD gets compared to autism which he also has, my understanding is ADHD is linked more to unruly kids, where autism you instantly think of rainman and your heart melts. poor Raymond Sad

will be interesting now if to see if he delves further and the autism word is brought up, it would help
Report stu December 1, 2023 1:38 PM GMT
Sam does look like he has ADHD to me for sure.

Autism - not so sure he looks like that to me, and I know quite a few people including his age, that do have it.
Report Angela Rebecchi December 1, 2023 2:00 PM GMT
Completely agree Stu. Some people have HFA so it's hard to see but I can't see many signs with Sam at all.
Report stu December 1, 2023 2:07 PM GMT
Yes, the HFA individuals I know are all very different from how Sam appears. I'd agree, can't see any of the classic ASD signs in Sam.
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 5:24 PM GMT
watched two of his vid from may i think talking about it, one on e4 and wone on this morning, i'll find them
he reckons he's on the spectrum, not having that one bit...ADHD yes, as i said its a kid/teenage thing. he needs to grow up, just playing on child illness imo
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 5:25 PM GMT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In2aNJdvwAs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0NKSEJgSIs
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 5:54 PM GMT
To be fair, most of us are on the spectrum in some capacity. He seems positioned closer to the non autistic end
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 6:21 PM GMT
non existent you mean Laugh
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 6:26 PM GMT
he's a grown man with ADHD a child gets, he basically has it to the extreme. top of the scale, i don't know any adults that act like that
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 6:35 PM GMT
He is 100% playing up to it though and trying to get excited. He's not this OTT in every show he's in
Report armagnac December 1, 2023 6:42 PM GMT
yeah jumping on people with his legs around there back is nuts lol. the CBB he was in with harding i can't recall it that well, think i lost on that series. Didn't she get picked on by a group including Sam ? i certainly don't ever recall him  being like this, so ADHD to this extreme suddenly appears in adulthood ?? i just can't have it.
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 7:06 PM GMT
Laugh
Report The Kitten December 1, 2023 8:48 PM GMT
Anyone backing Sam at odds on needs professional help.
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 8:52 PM GMT
I agree, and I'm driving this train
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 8:53 PM GMT
Although it's better value than Nigel at single figs
Report GeorgeBrush December 1, 2023 8:56 PM GMT

Dec 1, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Lifter wrote:


I agree, and I'm driving this train


Are you fck.  Long been sacked as driver

Report Lifter December 1, 2023 9:06 PM GMT
Who is then? You were banned but sneaked on board
Report Lifter December 1, 2023 9:07 PM GMT
The train needs Army to get across the line
Report armagnac December 2, 2023 3:20 PM GMT
Farting next to someone while eating, i won't be driving this one lifter...how the market didn't react to that is beyond belief, so many comments how disgusting and out of order that was.
Report armagnac December 2, 2023 3:25 PM GMT
Sam is starting to tread a very thin line now and the fart will be remembered and come back to haunt him, he done it endless times around jamie to p1ss her off but was only shown once. i'll be gobsmacked if we don't see more wind from him at inappropriate times now. it just makes him more marmite and lose votes to tony.
Report armagnac December 4, 2023 2:56 PM GMT
This is the reality of what Sam backers are up against, another angle of anti vote away from the people who can't stand him.

this post taken from insta

i have two children with ADHD and they practice control. Accepting someone has ADHD is one thing, allowing them to disrupt every single event and touch, hug, jump on people is not ok. He's just making it harder on others with ADHD who do practice respecting other peoples spaces and practice self control. i also have ADHD.


Not even fellow sufferers are supporting him, says it all
Report armagnac December 4, 2023 3:12 PM GMT
So how come this ADHD is so selective? Take the first eviction, when Sam was told he wasn't going there wasn't a hint of his jumping up and down and running around looking for someone to hug. Why's that then? Could it possibly be that the producers had words with him because it was "live"? So suddenly he can listen.

He's also a reality veteran and that means turning up on time, taking instruction, and following instruction.



coz its all an exaggerated 'new' act, just like joey essex pretending to be thick
Report GeorgeBrush December 4, 2023 10:50 PM GMT
Choo choo!!! :)
Report armagnac December 5, 2023 12:41 AM GMT
Sam for me is same old same old, plodding along to the line. not a strong fav by any means and is there for the taking, having two come out and say his name is something the market loves.
it does feel like the camp have conceded defeat and think he's gonna hose up and are just saying what they think the public want to hear.
i never expected frankie to say his name, the edits we seen looked like he couldn't stand him.
nella has been really close to both girls and even sharing the camper with dani lately, also she loves tony so sam was a total shock.

so yeah both those saying Sam was didn't sit right with the edits we get shown.
Report GeorgeBrush December 5, 2023 8:39 AM GMT
You all seem to be backing him though lol
Report armagnac December 5, 2023 9:49 AM GMT
The market loves him and he only gets beat as a fav probably, the market has conceded defeat i suspect...as ive said all along he's a super charged jordan north who went into the final as fav and got beat.
Josie needs the same path, Dani out quickly and she most certainly needs a huge test or two in the run in regarding trials, although Gio's in the run in were pathetic. Jodie won't get away with that after failing one so badly.
i'm not confident she can deliver that, just very hopeful.

bellew looks the best chance, great fun doing trials but might not get one till cyclone.
Report GeorgeBrush December 5, 2023 9:54 AM GMT
Insiders innit
Report armagnac December 5, 2023 9:57 AM GMT
lol, same as north, no negatives well in a bad way eg angry b1tchy. makes these runners very hard to beat
Report GeorgeBrush December 5, 2023 9:58 AM GMT
Curious, all you've done for the last week is talk about negatives. Confused face
Report armagnac December 5, 2023 10:01 AM GMT
Sam is not a harry, toff, vic or scarlette..he's very beatable by two decent runners sat in behind, let the market have its fun. He's creating value on them as it goes.
Report armagnac December 5, 2023 10:02 AM GMT
yeah fred has brought me down this week
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:03 AM GMT
so because Sam [allegedly] has ADHD he can behave as he wants can he? With respect, that's absolute BS.

If someone in your child's class constantly spent the lesson jumping around the classroom, jumping on fellow pupils - would that be ok?
If you worked with someone who randomly came up to you throughout the day and jumped all over you - would that be ok?

The world doesn't revolve around Sam and I'm writing that as someone with Aspergers. Absolutely the condition makes life difficult, it's not a superpower if you're talking about interacting with society, it can be a difficult. lonely and unfathomable experience at times. I spent the majority of my formative years thinking "what have I said/done NOW that's so wrong??". I could offend people without even trying. There were times when I felt like I was dealing with a different species! They looked human, they walked and talked like a human... but they were nothing like me.

So the damage Sam is doing for neuro-diverse conditions is horrendous. We are not zany, performing monkeys, and children watching Sam may well think that ADHD and the like means you are destined to behave like that. Whereas the reality is that if most people behaved like that in the real world they would find themselves ridiculed and isolated, not to mention being at the hard end of a punch or worse.
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:09 AM GMT
good post that

You either like sam or not, complete marmite character. i can't see him picking up hardly any vote transference.
its zany sam or calm funny tony, the latter will get nearly all of it
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:13 AM GMT
too a lesser degree, its something that helped Gio over the line..north was an arse
Report TheBorg December 6, 2023 11:28 AM GMT
yes, farage votes once he leaves going to Tony more than any other
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:30 AM GMT
oh yeah, that will be a fair few and he dislikes Sam, his laziness and behaviour
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:33 AM GMT
Sam coming 3rd for me all day long

tony
josie
sam
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 11:36 AM GMT
if you like quiet marv and nick, there is no way your giving a single vote to Sam after they've gone.
Report armagnac December 6, 2023 2:36 PM GMT
I just watched back yesterdays, anyone notice Sam when they starting preparing/cooking the food, how contrived was that whole scene. He threw logs down, the 2nd one was blatantly on purpose, then shouting while cooking. That was 100% an act and nothing to do with his ADHD, not sure if it was for airtime or to try and get a reaction from Fred, probably both.

watch it back, your'll see what i mean. Dunno how much of the public would of cared, probably thought sam was being sam but that was a total act for me..pretty much confirms to me at least, nearly all of the OTT stuff has been one big act from a RTV pro.
Report Lifter December 6, 2023 10:23 PM GMT
Pulling into the station
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2023 11:34 AM GMT
ADHD, ME, autism, give a problem a name and it becomes a disease that everybody catches. Point is not how much of Sam's hyperactivity is real (I'd say over half is real with Sam in fairness), it's if it fools GBP? And in Sam's case it has. Lad done well.
Report armagnac December 8, 2023 11:36 AM GMT
henry behave, its fooled the market at this point. he's clearly way OTT as he's nowhere this bad as other shows
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2023 11:38 AM GMT
Love
Report armagnac December 8, 2023 11:50 AM GMT
funny thing is Henry, had he kept it at normal levels..none of this jumping, wrapping legs around people, running around like a headless chicken and not being so annoying with Tony.
He would of p1ssed up, he's made it harder for himself by being so OTT
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2023 11:55 AM GMT
Nah, he is going to piss it, all that stuff is entertainment innit. Less predictable is the next out.
Report armagnac December 8, 2023 12:00 PM GMT
only in your head H, im sure you'd love Sam wrapped around you
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 7:23 PM GMT
Choo choo, money buyers are here
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 7:30 PM GMT
Vicky Pattison style ! Grin
Report Lifter December 10, 2023 10:44 PM GMT
Well done to all train riders, even Brushy Love
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:54 PM GMT
Even you. Telling me not to back at evens pmsl.
Report TheBorg December 10, 2023 10:57 PM GMT
Well done on the early call.
Report Lifter December 10, 2023 11:25 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 10:54PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Even you. Telling me not to back at evens pmsl.


Even me? You are aware I'm the OP? And I wouldn't do such a thing. I know you got on around 4s. I wondered the reasoning for someone (not you) backing at odds on just days after being 6s (nothing had changed). It's a psychological bias. Pretty sure he drifted after that, too.

Report Lifter December 10, 2023 11:27 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 10:57PM, TheBorg wrote:


Well done on the early call.


Nice one on Tony Borg. Best call of the series I think. From 20s or so to evens Cool

Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:29 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 11:25PM, Lifter wrote:


Dec 10, 2023 -- 10:54PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:Even you. Telling me not to back at evens pmsl.Even me? You are aware I'm the OP? And I wouldn't do such a thing. I know you got on around 4s. I wondered the reasoning for someone (not you) backing at odds on just days after being 6s (nothing had changed). It's a psychological bias. Pretty sure he drifted after that, too.


What, drifted to 2.4? Big fcking wow!!!

Report bearcub December 10, 2023 11:32 PM GMT
It's like a feckin playground in here CryCryCryCryCry
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:40 PM GMT
Someone has to make up for army going awol :)
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:41 PM GMT
Hope his bank didn't go totally awol. He was good on this series until he couldn't let go of josie
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 11:51 PM GMT
Great series. Very enjoyable trading. Sam did the Vicki Pattison dance to victory !
Report timbuctooth December 11, 2023 1:58 AM GMT
Good stuff, Lifter
Report stu December 11, 2023 11:16 AM GMT
WP on owning the winning one Grin
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 11:56 AM GMT
wd lifter. Top tipping Cool
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 12:12 PM GMT
well done lifter, smart early call
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