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Lifter
20 Nov 23 21:49
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Choo chooo!

Backed him around 9s pre-show and greened up a bit at 5s, but the current price around 8s is INSANE value.

Cheeky chap who will get a lot of screentime, kind, and happy, but has a vulnerable side that will be shown.

Mems will love his "pure heart".

May take a bit to beat Josie, but he goes close.

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By:
armagnac
When: 21 Nov 23 10:29
I didn't know anything about Sam until a couple of weeks back when I watched his ADHD show. I'm glad I did as it set me up to like him (And accept his overenthusiasm!) in advance of this show.


ds post lifter, but i get the feeling a serious amount of the audience has no idea about his conditions.
with fred looking like he's gonna be a moody frog, who was one of the strongest runners going in and dani looking like being massively overshadowed by josie's presence in camp. Then Sam looks a total cert for cyclone when his full story is known, i can't see a way back for fred either.
8's was a steal, can only see his price going one way...a sell at 4's for a joise top up would be my shout as he's always gonna have some haters that just think he's annoying regardless of his condition. Can only see nothing but love for Josie

good luck
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 11:22
The talk in the playground (well college refrectory) is that rhe kids think he's too much

Surely these were his core vote demographic too?

Get a few sympathetic mems, but i think they'll fall in line with josie

Ironically i think he needs to start struggling to get momentum
By:
armagnac
When: 21 Nov 23 11:42
That could be the case, like nella he's gonna get on nerves..true figures never to be known but the bottom line is the cyclone top 3 places need filling, and what we thought was a very strong line up is fast becoming the same old run of the mill series with only a handful that have any chance whatsoever. Sam is in that category even if its by default, which i think frankie is even without appearing yet.

The question regarding trades is, is the josie treatment gonna continue at this insane rate meaning she'll be 1.20 by the final making trades harder to achieve or will they ease up a bit and make it interesting ?
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:26
Guess the last reality TV star to appear on I'm a celeb... Toff = winner.

Before that... winner. Before that... winner.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 20:27
Eh?
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:31
The last three have won.
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:32
I guess Fern can be included in Vicky's year, who came third.
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:33
But interesting they havn't had one for a while. Could Sam actually be the chosen one lined up for some work?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 20:35
What about the countless losers?
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:38
What about them? I'm talking about the recent winners who are more appropriate for today's app voting public. I'm not saying all reality TV stars win - regardless of who they are - but it's a damn good stat.
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:42

Nov 21, 2023 -- 11:42AM, armagnac wrote:


That could be the case, like nella he's gonna get on nerves..true figures never to be known but the bottom line is the cyclone top 3 places need filling, and what we thought was a very strong line up is fast becoming the same old run of the mill series with only a handful that have any chance whatsoever. Sam is in that category even if its by default, which i think frankie is even without appearing yet.The question regarding trades is, is the josie treatment gonna continue at this insane rate meaning she'll be 1.20 by the final making trades harder to achieve or will they ease up a bit and make it interesting ?


I think she will get good treatment throughout, but they tend to give other people a go of it. I don't think she gets to 1.20 in the final on this form alone. Well, unless the others do literally nothing.

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 20:43
It's a totally irrelevant surely.  The best candidate for the itv audience wins.  If he's it, well done, matters not much where they come from.
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:47
You don't think their audience outside matters? Blush
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 20:53
Ask that Amy in cbb who had a billion or so twitter followers
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:55
So you don't?
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:57
Different show, she didn't have THAT many, she's got the IQ of a grape, and that is redundant.

Again, I'm saying the outside MATTERS, not that it's the only requirement.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 21 Nov 23 20:59
I think it matters more that he's very annoying :)
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 20:59
She came fourth in CBB. Without those billon followers and shes out first Laugh
By:
Lifter
When: 21 Nov 23 21:00

Nov 21, 2023 -- 8:59PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


I think it matters more that he's very annoying :)


I sense fear. Take a seat towards the front the train.

By:
Lifter
When: 22 Nov 23 09:36
Matched at 3.9 as the flip flop draws closer
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 09:48
Yes all going to plan but Sam's chances of winning ultimately depends on how far dani gets, he needs her to make cyclone at least.
Coz as i said on Josie's thread the thing that will see her ease to victory is if she's the last woman standing with 4 men say. i can easily see frankie and tony coming in and making strong runs, and maybe after fred had his feeling's hurt he may go into a shell and not want to confront people.

The last women standing theory is a strong one and worked twice recently, getting a very undeserved Gio the win.

so its not sam you have to worry about, nailed on top 3...i'd be watching dani very closely and betting accordingly !!!
By:
Lifter
When: 22 Nov 23 10:05
Oh, I have no worries that Danielle will be there in the final 5 at least. A final three of Josie and two boys won't be enough of a "last women standing" vote IMO. I expect to see at least an equal number of "Sam to win" as "Josie to win" when it gets down to business.
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 10:09
The sam money was reds who laid the 'over excited puppy' only now realising his disabilities and his power couple vote. SM been awash with people defending and protecting sam the last 24 hours.
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 10:13
i think its more 50/50 sam making cyclone myself and 75/25 she makes top 5.
frankie and tony are BIG characters, dani could very easily fade into the background if she's not careful
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 10:14
50/50 dani making cyclone*
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 15:03
Just watching back, Sam was involved in nearly every segment last night.
By:
stu
When: 22 Nov 23 16:11
Out of interest - did anyone see much of him when he actually worked on this show (the spinoff prog I think)?

I wonder how much that could be an advantage here too?
By:
armagnac
When: 22 Nov 23 19:04
I think he's bottomed out for the time being, the fred story continues tonight until god knows when..you have frankie going in who will be a coiled spring for a few days if his bb form is anything to go by...plus you have an alpha male in tony going in, most likely to challenge farage like fred did.

i see sam drifting and josie hopefully being teflon in the market down to her being likely the last female around 4 maybe 5 men at the end.
By:
Lifter
When: 22 Nov 23 19:34
I actually do hope he drifts so I can get more on. I can also see Fred drifting (after tonight as he may come in a touch more) and FD drifting as he's too skinny. Tony may shorten though
By:
armagnac
When: 23 Nov 23 16:11
FLIP/FLOP looming tonight/tomorrow between over exited puppy and over excited man
frankie will start like a train, will Sam be seen ?
By:
Lifter
When: 23 Nov 23 16:16
Laugh
By:
Lifter
When: 23 Nov 23 16:19
I honestly do hope so. Already my best-ever book, but I'm happy to lay FD at low odds and go in again on Sam.

I guess Sam could drift to 6 and FD could fall to 6, but I guess it would be temporary like Danielle's and Fred's plunges
By:
armagnac
When: 23 Nov 23 16:34
I can't advise you, all i will say is if frankie stays happy does not moan at all i think he beats Sam but its highly likely after a week or so he goes to the dark side.
By:
armagnac
When: 23 Nov 23 16:45
Sam has annoying qualities he will never lose, gets so excited over the simplest of things or conversations...it will get tiresome if it continues. not quite on par with yinruns wailing though, but will grate.
Its coz it don't appear natural to the vast majority of normal people so they can't understand it, most people don't agree with ADHD either..most think its just spongers scrounging benefits.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 23 Nov 23 21:44
Sam is much less annoying now I've backed him
By:
Lifter
When: 23 Nov 23 21:47
Laugh It's rather late, but good to have you onboard
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 23 Nov 23 21:51
I'd call 1.8 late, not 4.8
By:
Lifter
When: 23 Nov 23 21:57
CoolCoolCool
By:
timbuctooth
When: 23 Nov 23 22:24
Truly beautiful moment, as Jamie gives a Thanksgiving prayer; gotta love a religious girl
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