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I didn't know anything about Sam until a couple of weeks back when I watched his ADHD show. I'm glad I did as it set me up to like him (And accept his overenthusiasm!) in advance of this show.
ds post lifter, but i get the feeling a serious amount of the audience has no idea about his conditions. with fred looking like he's gonna be a moody frog, who was one of the strongest runners going in and dani looking like being massively overshadowed by josie's presence in camp. Then Sam looks a total cert for cyclone when his full story is known, i can't see a way back for fred either. 8's was a steal, can only see his price going one way...a sell at 4's for a joise top up would be my shout as he's always gonna have some haters that just think he's annoying regardless of his condition. Can only see nothing but love for Josie good luck |
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The talk in the playground (well college refrectory) is that rhe kids think he's too much
Surely these were his core vote demographic too? Get a few sympathetic mems, but i think they'll fall in line with josie Ironically i think he needs to start struggling to get momentum |
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That could be the case, like nella he's gonna get on nerves..true figures never to be known but the bottom line is the cyclone top 3 places need filling, and what we thought was a very strong line up is fast becoming the same old run of the mill series with only a handful that have any chance whatsoever. Sam is in that category even if its by default, which i think frankie is even without appearing yet.
The question regarding trades is, is the josie treatment gonna continue at this insane rate meaning she'll be 1.20 by the final making trades harder to achieve or will they ease up a bit and make it interesting ? |
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Guess the last reality TV star to appear on I'm a celeb... Toff = winner.
Before that... winner. Before that... winner. |
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Eh?
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The last three have won.
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I guess Fern can be included in Vicky's year, who came third.
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But interesting they havn't had one for a while. Could Sam actually be the chosen one lined up for some work?
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What about the countless losers?
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What about them? I'm talking about the recent winners who are more appropriate for today's app voting public. I'm not saying all reality TV stars win - regardless of who they are - but it's a damn good stat.
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It's a totally irrelevant surely. The best candidate for the itv audience wins. If he's it, well done, matters not much where they come from.
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You don't think their audience outside matters?
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Ask that Amy in cbb who had a billion or so twitter followers
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So you don't?
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Different show, she didn't have THAT many, she's got the IQ of a grape, and that is redundant.
Again, I'm saying the outside MATTERS, not that it's the only requirement. |
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I think it matters more that he's very annoying :)
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She came fourth in CBB. Without those billon followers and shes out first
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Matched at 3.9 as the flip flop draws closer
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Yes all going to plan but Sam's chances of winning ultimately depends on how far dani gets, he needs her to make cyclone at least.
Coz as i said on Josie's thread the thing that will see her ease to victory is if she's the last woman standing with 4 men say. i can easily see frankie and tony coming in and making strong runs, and maybe after fred had his feeling's hurt he may go into a shell and not want to confront people. The last women standing theory is a strong one and worked twice recently, getting a very undeserved Gio the win. so its not sam you have to worry about, nailed on top 3...i'd be watching dani very closely and betting accordingly !!! |
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Oh, I have no worries that Danielle will be there in the final 5 at least. A final three of Josie and two boys won't be enough of a "last women standing" vote IMO. I expect to see at least an equal number of "Sam to win" as "Josie to win" when it gets down to business.
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The sam money was reds who laid the 'over excited puppy' only now realising his disabilities and his power couple vote. SM been awash with people defending and protecting sam the last 24 hours.
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i think its more 50/50 sam making cyclone myself and 75/25 she makes top 5.
frankie and tony are BIG characters, dani could very easily fade into the background if she's not careful |
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50/50 dani making cyclone*
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Just watching back, Sam was involved in nearly every segment last night.
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Out of interest - did anyone see much of him when he actually worked on this show (the spinoff prog I think)?
I wonder how much that could be an advantage here too? |
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I think he's bottomed out for the time being, the fred story continues tonight until god knows when..you have frankie going in who will be a coiled spring for a few days if his bb form is anything to go by...plus you have an alpha male in tony going in, most likely to challenge farage like fred did.
i see sam drifting and josie hopefully being teflon in the market down to her being likely the last female around 4 maybe 5 men at the end. |
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I actually do hope he drifts so I can get more on. I can also see Fred drifting (after tonight as he may come in a touch more) and FD drifting as he's too skinny. Tony may shorten though
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FLIP/FLOP looming tonight/tomorrow between over exited puppy and over excited man
frankie will start like a train, will Sam be seen ? |
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I honestly do hope so. Already my best-ever book, but I'm happy to lay FD at low odds and go in again on Sam.
I guess Sam could drift to 6 and FD could fall to 6, but I guess it would be temporary like Danielle's and Fred's plunges |
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I can't advise you, all i will say is if frankie stays happy does not moan at all i think he beats Sam but its highly likely after a week or so he goes to the dark side.
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Sam has annoying qualities he will never lose, gets so excited over the simplest of things or conversations...it will get tiresome if it continues. not quite on par with yinruns wailing though, but will grate.
Its coz it don't appear natural to the vast majority of normal people so they can't understand it, most people don't agree with ADHD either..most think its just spongers scrounging benefits. |
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Sam is much less annoying now I've backed him
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It's rather late, but good to have you onboard |
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I'd call 1.8 late, not 4.8
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Truly beautiful moment, as Jamie gives a Thanksgiving prayer; gotta love a religious girl
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