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By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 16:39
stu

ya banging ya head against the wall with gormley crew, think tank that thinks the same way is broken
By:
Cider
When: 20 Nov 23 16:41
It can be lost on day 1, but not won. Essentially nothing has happened yet that is particularly unexpected. Most likely people following twatter stats. The next few days are key obviously, when they begin to get hungry, jealous and bored, and their guards start to fall. Will it be a happy clappy year, or relentless bickering.

20ish percent is poor probability considering most people think she is the production numero uno. That suggests to me anyway that most serious players feel that she will struggle to win with all the advantages.
By:
Cider
When: 20 Nov 23 16:55
army, personally have a very open mind on this series. it's probably about 1 out of every 2 series I'm pretty confident who will go very close from the line up. this year, no such standout. obviously I've covered in depth that the market grossly underestimated NF originally, but the market had correct by the off. Some of them can be confidently ruled out, but they had rag prices anyway.

I don't get them all, didn't really get the Toff love in but she cruised to victory, that exaggerated, ott nob Gino really got on my nerves and I had to concede defeat very late, and start backing him. From memory it was only the forecasts that enabled me to flip it into a profitable series.
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 17:19
I think the market makers only need to watch the edit of josie, coz if it continues in the same vein as it started yesterday, she will be very hard to beat. they really like to plug there chosen ones on a daily bases. once harry started telling stories etc it was every night pimping. think toff had similar treatment, not sure about other good things but its very noticeable.
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 17:23
ofc that could happen to any of the runners, but it just so happens josie works for itv lol and there are a few plausible theories her winning helps the corporation.
By:
bearcub
When: 20 Nov 23 17:30
5 of them are ITV presenters, why do you think Josie is any different?
By:
Cider
When: 20 Nov 23 17:32
Ashley was the most transparent one (didn't win oc). Coincidently she had signed up to be a DOI judge (at that point, unannounced). Can't really underestimate how the app voting has shifted the dial. JJ barely featured. Same as Giovanna. The four before that were all runaway winners and didn't need any prod help.
By:
Cider
When: 20 Nov 23 17:36
We were pretty sure that they were sabotaging the trials at one point for example making keys impossible to find for people they were trying to nobble in the pv. It's definitely r1gged to some extent, depending upon who it is. But also, the trials in of themselves don't have the influence they used to, aside from the guaranteed screen time.
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 17:40
Gio proved anyone can win the year she did
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 17:42
josie appears to me the most suitable to get a big gig with a certain type of audience
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 17:43
marvin is a proper dull on another level
sam is super tedious after one day, forgot how nauseating he was
fred is ok but not getting the mum power josie would achieve
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 18:03
we've only had a few mins of camp interaction anyway, even the next few edits may not that help coz it will be a reset when frankie and tony arrive. frankie will be as buzzy as sam probably, the market will most likely stay stagnant im guessing for a week. when i looked back its around day 7 onwards the market usually finds a strong fav.
By:
J.O.TOBIN.
When: 20 Nov 23 18:30
Yes she can only beat whats shes up against army. And you are of course right she was the chosen one in BB and also this probably. But she did blow her chances in BB by lazing around under the duvet all day with John  James, they had to rescue her by getting rid of her competition/ I was told she was 3rd before the 4 person eviction which got rid of Sam Pepper who was miles clear. Think shes older and wiser now so unlikely to make the same mistakes again.
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 19:08
She was a lot younger then JOT and the attention she got from JJ was all she craved, hence leaving UBB so soon. She's media savvy now and looking like she's hungry for a decent career on tv, from yesterday's edit and what they said on TM earlier it certainly looks like the game plan is to ask the questions the audience would like to know. That's an educated guess anyway, her bubbly personality and not taking herself too seriously makes her very easy to get on with. which should allow her to get a lot out of her camp mates.

Thought i heard or read something about her going to be motherly in there but not sure if i imagined that now lol
The weight issues has to make the edit at some point surely you'd think, she will also mention about her make up guard being taken away from her. looking chubby and being vulnerable two massive factors, the storyline all fits i just hope the edit fits.

pepper being robbed was heartbreaking for most of the forum Cry
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 19:14
Jaysus, yep I'd forgotten it was a crazy multi eviction, didn't it remove jun jaymes too?

Horrific manipulation

Although tbf pepper should have been binned for tea bagging the west country whale:)
By:
five leaves left
When: 20 Nov 23 19:25
And Corin Love Her 3 main challengers ....oh and that Steve fella
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 19:32
Shocking that.  It's lateshire that always sticks in my mind, but that was grim
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 19:33
Farage smashing trials and winning food for camp makes him settle in easier, there is no big brother to stir the pot. Fred will have to stir it himself
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 19:45
I hadn't really thought about it, but maybe it would have been good to see a different farage.

Nope, he's exactly the same as in every interview, belligerent, self righteous and annoying
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 19:46
And acting as if he's starring in his own biopic
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 19:53
He'll drift like a barge if he don't get out of his salesman pitch, probably totally convinced the show is all about him and will revolve around him. so far wooden and boring
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 20:00
They should've put someone in to really take him on. Rory stewart would have been a good shout
By:
ProSniper
When: 20 Nov 23 20:00
"Farage smashing trials" The Q is how many are trials does his "sick note" make him exempt from?
By:
Lifter
When: 20 Nov 23 20:02
He's a no-hoper who is providing value to the market
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:07
Surely farage gets zero votes off anyone under 20 say ? plus most young children who love this show, that have tablets and old smart phones from parents who have upgraded. zero appeal to that age bracket in an app voting contest is a serious negative.
By:
Lifter
When: 20 Nov 23 20:10
He won't even get many votes from middle-aged people. Sure, there are some die-hard fans and pro-brexiters who have made it their identity, but you could argue that with any of the people in there. Zero motive to note for him
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 20:10
Anyone under 50

Unless it's IQ
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 20:11
Not much support from the mems.  They're generally less brexity than their grumpy husbands
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:12
can see LSD sam doing ok in the under 20 vote
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 20 Nov 23 20:14
Is he gonna be like last night ALL the time?  Nobody could stand it
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:15
farage an unfunny mr bean with his trousers upto his chin, more of yesterday and he's 20's after tonight..especially if he's exempt from the next trial
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:16
lol brushy, he was awful..surely calms down
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:22
i really hope there is no segments with farage and humes together, i'll need cattle prodding
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:26
just reading something, apparently sam has been quite open about his struggles with ADHD and autism
i had no idea, looks to be getting online hate over being too enthusiastic
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:29
oh right loads of stuff about it, looks like diagnosed this year. i really must do more research on my bets lol
i might be more sympathetic now, well a little
By:
Lifter
When: 20 Nov 23 20:38
Sam is not a one trick poney. He is 1.01 to show his vulnerable side and have quiet moments when he struggles
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:41
yep, huge plus for his chances..he was my weakest out of the top 4 but after reading that im less concerned
By:
timbuctooth
When: 20 Nov 23 20:49
As a child, how many autistic children did you know? When I was young, the rate was 1 in 1,000. Then, they started adminstering the mumps, measles and rubella jabs in the one shot, rather than separately. Autism rates have since gone up to as many as 1 in 37...
By:
armagnac
When: 20 Nov 23 20:52
its coz you can claim benefits for almost anything these days
By:
Cider
When: 20 Nov 23 20:53
Many people believe that the Dec 2019 election was a de facto 2nd/3rd EU referendum, which won Johnson a landslide victory on the back of 'get brexit done' and Farage pulling out of Tory seats. It was a while ago now tbf, but I doubt all the people who were a small part of achieving that landslide in the name of brexit are all dead. However, whether they will be bothered enough in large numbers to install the app and vote on this nonsense on a daily basis is definitely open to question. To be able to have a chance of winning, my view is that NF needs to swing some of the more neutral voters his way. Therefore it will take more than what he did on the first broadcast.

Lifter, it's the hardcore remainers who made it their identity after doing their best to prevent a democratic mandate from being enacted (the largest one in the country's history). EU flags in profiles, you know the sort of thing. Literally made it their identity! Many of them are still pretty salty even now, and you know still quite disparaging about those who defeated them over 8 years ago. FBPE types won't be voting for NF on this to win of course, whatever he does, in the real world however they are a tiny minority. They are well represented on twatter/x, so I wouldn't recommend taking that as in being any way representative (if that's forming part of your analysis).
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