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By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:34
Is Tony cooked here now - the only one really pushed out in price more recently.

Sadly almost every significant drifter has proven correctly drifted recently on the main market - Josie's backers knew they'd lost, similar with likes of Danielle etc
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:34
Though I suppose will still be some voting to come, as his hope...?
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:37
No idea stu. I'm of the opinion that no one knows. If you believe otherwise then it's not worth having a bet
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:39
yeh, I know there's still always a question about insider money - but the Josie drift was hideous really to tell everyone she was a mile behind.

I don't think anyone could lay her at 100 without some added info.
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:40
I think I will now almost certainly make about a tenner profit from this series, lol

The biggest moves went against my book each time, apart from the earlier ones.
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:41
The Sun poll had her a distant 4th, as did SM stats. So nothing dodgy imo
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:43
Not much better here stu, but any profit is nice after backing FredGrin
By:
Henry VIII
When: 10 Dec 23 15:47
People quoting press polls - do they publish numbers voted? Have you tried multi-voting on them? Also remember which candidate has a publicity machine probably multi-voting on polls, probably pushing his price down in a thin market.
From what I can see on sm it's still 1 sam, 2 tony, 3 nige.
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:47
lol, yeh my earliest bet was Danielle - should have just taken the trading profit and sat back with a decent green on everyone!
By:
Henry VIII
When: 10 Dec 23 15:52
Funny that me, Brushy, Kitten all returned here at roughly the same time (so it seems from comments). And I used to tell CLYDE he'd be back when he talked about his approaching "retirement" Wink
George Bailey left before me but I just sent him an email. Anybody know what happened to long term gone TheMadness? He used to make me laugh winding people up on DSBB, being perfectly polite btw, just rational.
I wonder if these people are still alive (don't eat foods made with or fried from the seed oils - sunflower etc).
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 15:54
Not seen TM for a long time must admit - he was a good specials poster yes.
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:55
I reckon you're all the same person H Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:56
aye, TM was good fun. As was GB2 at times
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 15:59

Dec 10, 2023 -- 3:47PM, Henry VIII wrote:


People quoting press polls - do they publish numbers voted? Have you tried multi-voting on them? Also remember which candidate has a publicity machine probably multi-voting on polls, probably pushing his price down in a thin market.From what I can see on sm it's still 1 sam, 2 tony, 3 nige.


Which sm? Twitter has an awful record on this
Fb and insta have Tony just ahead
As for the Sun poll, I'm sure like any poll it can be ramped, but no sign of it since I've been keeping an eye on it

By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 16:00
... for the last 3 hours
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 16:15
Sam goes on holiday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgMgkl-gRxk
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 10 Dec 23 16:22
stu ...“Danielle fell ill at the start of the show and developed a really nasty infection which made her very unwell.

“It was all kept off camera and she just kept powering through. Danielle was seen by the camp doctor several times. They were very concerned but rather than throw in the towel she wanted to stay the course.

“She was really sick but you’d never have known it. She kept smiling and kept trying her best in camp. She didn’t want to have to leave the show to go to hospital.

“There were times in that first week when she really struggled.

“She didn’t want to let anyone down in camp or her family and friends. She made sure she tried to eat as much as possible, as she knew that would help her. The weather was also terrible in that first week which didn’t help. But Danielle is such a trouper and she was so brave to stick it out. She just cracked on.

“The medics kept her closely monitored and she had to see them several times to make sure the infection was kept under control.

“But she was very unwell for a few days and lost nearly a stone.”
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 10 Dec 23 16:23
prolly explains why we barely saw her after Episode 1
By:
Henry VIII
When: 10 Dec 23 16:24
well yeah the biggest difference is twitter but if you say they're awful, also FB, what stats on FB put Tony "just ahead"?

"Aren't holidays brilliant?" made me laugh. TM and GB2 were mad but regardless I'm somebody different.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 17:04
Farage always starts these polls behind and moves in front. Make of that what you will
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 17:05
Only 18% on the 4 way Sun poll the other day when they reported on it. Then it doubled
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 17:07
Reminds me of bear on tibb :)
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 17:08
Twitter certainly useful. I like it for Strictly. I've never known it be wrong. However looking at the historical to win stats for IAC, they've only been right twice in the last 5 years.
FB and instagram I did a manual count after the Dani elim and they both had Tony just ahead of Sam. Nigel 3rd, Josie and Martin way behind. Numbers upthread or maybe in the Tony one.
I looked again last night when I got bored I had 38, 37, 35, Tony, Nigel and Sam, to win posts. So nowt in it
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 17:10
That was to H Grin
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 17:12
Twitter goes up to 110
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 17:14
lol that was fb and to win posts I counted before I got bored, not percentages
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 17:15
Tellystats does twitter so we don't have to
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 17:16
Your boredom threshold only goes up to 110

Twitter full of extremists.  Again liable to overestimate nige
By:
five leaves left
When: 10 Dec 23 17:18
Over 500 comments. 110 showed a preference. The other 390 mostly hating on Josie. FB is weird
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 10 Dec 23 17:19

Dec 10, 2023 -- 5:08PM, five leaves left wrote:


Twitter certainly useful. I like it for Strictly. I've never known it be wrong. However looking at the historical to win stats for IAC, they've only been right twice in the last 5 years.FB and instagram I did a manual count after the Dani elim and they both had Tony just ahead of Sam. Nigel 3rd, Josie and Martin way behind. Numbers upthread or maybe in the Tony one.I looked again last night when I got bored I had 38, 37, 35, Tony, Nigel and Sam, to win posts. So nowt in it


You would definitely weight Instagram to be more favourable to Sam i.e. I imagine Tony would get a higher % of votes irl than likes opposed to Sam where you'd expect it to shift the other way

By:
Cider
When: 10 Dec 23 17:31
Small c conservative support is nearly always underestimated. If social media and other online measures are really close, that would put Farage right in the mix. I'm genuinely torn on this, logic would say Farage has no chance, but my nagging instinct says he has. None of the possible outcomes would surprise me especially, very unusual to be able make an argument for the last three runners.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 10 Dec 23 17:36

Dec 10, 2023 -- 5:08PM, five leaves left wrote:


Twitter certainly useful. I like it for Strictly. I've never known it be wrong. However looking at the historical to win stats for IAC, they've only been right twice in the last 5 years.FB and instagram I did a manual count after the Dani elim and they both had Tony just ahead of Sam. Nigel 3rd, Josie and Martin way behind. Numbers upthread or maybe in the Tony one.I looked again last night when I got bored I had 38, 37, 35, Tony, Nigel and Sam, to win posts. So nowt in it


If those stats were true representation on Instagram then Sam would be the LEAST likely winner, for sure Cider. You have to ask. Sam and Tony were close in the market then the votes came in and they went in opposite directions.

By:
Henry VIII
When: 10 Dec 23 17:54
A sample of about 100 is not any form of "true representation".
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 10 Dec 23 18:04
Think the standard deviation and confidence levels picking 110 random IAC fans would be pretty useful. You'd assume on Instagram that such feedback would have Sam easily in the majority, especially as IG favours him and he's the big favourite. Something amiss or Sam is brutally short.
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 18:10
CLYDEBANK2910 Dec 23 16:22
stu ...“Danielle fell ill at the start of the show and developed a really nasty infection which made her very unwell.

“It was all kept off camera and she just kept powering through. Danielle was seen by the camp doctor several times. They were very concerned but rather than throw in the towel she wanted to stay the course.

“She was really sick but you’d never have known it. She kept smiling and kept trying her best in camp. She didn’t want to have to leave the show to go to hospital.

“There were times in that first week when she really struggled.



Didn't know that CB - yes, might explain her relatively poor performance all round. Wouldn't expect it to make you feel jolly for sure.
By:
stu
When: 10 Dec 23 18:12
Farage price taking a walk now...reality finally setting in?
By:
TheBorg
When: 10 Dec 23 18:14
I will be laughing and be crying if Sam is out 1st, I took a small amount of cover with Hills. Nigel 1st Tony 2nd 20/1
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 10 Dec 23 18:44
Poor Marvin.  Everyone referring to him as Martin now
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 23 18:58
He sounds like a paranoid android
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 10 Dec 23 19:29
Zeitgeist (imo)... Sam
Deserve to win (imo)... Sam
Twatter ... Sam clearly
Sun Polls ... (imo) Sam
Facebook and Mumsnet ... Tony clearly
Most motivated voters ... (imo) Sam
Not been ICBY ... Sam and Nigel
Camp Leader .... Sam

I did a FB to win analysis this afternoon and the scores were Tony 70 Sam 40 Nigel 14 Sam or Tony 10 Sam or Nigel 0 Tony or Nigel 0.  I'm prolly being played by FB but took Tony green on the back of that this afternoon considering his price.  Nige of course has some sort of outside campaign, but the final vote is generally massive.
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