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By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 10:10
If there is some kind of skullduggery going on behind the scenes then there is a possibility that either Vernon or Shane are still in with a shout

keeping Jordan as the false favourite until late in the game .... is that what's really going on here ??

imagine the carnage in the market if Jordan doesn't make the final 2

so many what ifs .....
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 10:23
well given Gio looks a cert for the h2h, jordans support will get tested to the hilt now verses shane and vernon who have massive fanbases.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 10:34
just watching the daily drop and russell wants Gio to win, now AJ has gone. (no mention of jordan)

jess obviously wants Gio to win
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 10:35
if shane in 4th place and vernon in 3rd go out next as the polls suggest then what happens to their support .. who will benefit the most from the vote transfer from their core support  ?

it seems to me that its much more likely that their support would then transfer more to Jordan as the last remaining guy rather than Gio ....and Jordan would then carry forward that extra momentum into the final

that is the big worry for me as a Gio Backer
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 10:41
hard to say, a lot of there support will be middle/older aged horny women...jordan acting like a child wont do much for them, they prefer a man.
its more of an even split for me and jordan has the bigger anti vote
i think Gio wins unless jordan plays up to the camera's which is a highly likely, depending what he does and how fuuny it is to the gullible audience decides who wins.

i think we can debate this till the cows come home, its all on jordans edit for me
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 10:51
do you reckon there is still  any realistic chance for either Shane or Vernon ?

wouldn't it be amazing if its vernon who they will actually push for..and Jordan is just a pawn in the game

its not impossible that Vernon is the dark horse ...

as you said its all in the edit..

another thing to bear in mind is this .. having had 4 female winners in the past 5 series will they want a man this time ?
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 10:57
you'd of thought they would want a man yes, vernon has been a bit meh for me so i would be shocked if he were to win. not impossible a conspiracy theory is at hand to push him over the line.
shanes been the show though and as a deserving winner of the 4 its him, thats why the odds are so stupid.
shane has been the full package
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 11:09
AJ on lorraine this morning, the latter pushing her charge

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAFmJ4UO1yI
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 11:59
vernon got pimp for cyclone
By:
LendUsAFiver
When: 03 Dec 20 12:12
Surprised to see Jordan doing so well on FB, that place should be full of middle aged women getting behind Gi.

Top comments on the Group photo.
"They're the right final 4. Loved the show! Cant wait!
Jordan to win! Such a nice lad
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 12:14
could that be a producers push methinks ! ?
By:
LendUsAFiver
When: 03 Dec 20 12:14
ok my comment seems to have been cut in half!

ANyway it's:
Jordan 212 likes
Gi 147 likes

Bad for Gi amongst her core support platform.
By:
LendUsAFiver
When: 03 Dec 20 12:16
Less than £1m matched on this market. Didn't this used to get like £10mill+?
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 12:24
pretty standard sm measures imo
entertainers always attract the louder sm types
quieter nice ones like Gi often dont overshadow these
always be the same always will
Gi support more hidden and harder to gage
when a nice quiet does attract more support like on twitter and the polls then its quite surprising for me, that makes me believe shes smashing the vote, but the bent market tells a different story.


no way does jordan have more hidden vote than Gi
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 03 Dec 20 12:44
Hi army - could you remind me what Giovanna has done during the past 2½ weeks please.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 12:45
i also think its virtually impossible to gage individual posts like your trying to do on facebook, its like whoever posts a particular comment might have 5,000 friends associated to them so they see and can react more to the person that posts than the person they are beating the drum for. like a large majority of there 5000 friends, like the person that writes it and just agrees anyway. and in other posts someone might only have a few friends.
how many people actually go out of there way to like a post of someone they dont know ??
its also very easy to like a comment of 'jordan to win' coz you dont like Gi for example...there's just to much randomness to that.

the best gage by far has always been the individual pics we had earlier in the series, where each like is independently scored and works more like a poll.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 12:51
hello jim, GI has hardly done anything. even her trial was sh1te, when she bottled wearing the hat. plus the group women one was sh1te too when she finished 1st.
shes been nice, a good majority of campmates leaving want her to win so she must of done a lot of pep talks we've not seen.

hth
By:
LendUsAFiver
When: 03 Dec 20 13:05
If the market is right and Shane goes first then his wingman is going to take at least 80% of his votes imho. You just don't go from voting Shane to Gi.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 13:06
if the market is to be believed, 80% of not a lot
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 13:08
and most definitely shanes wingman is vernon
By:
LendUsAFiver
When: 03 Dec 20 13:08
wasn't the swing less than 1% last year? If Shane is getting just 10% of votes, then 80% of that is 800% more than last years swing.
By:
bearcub
When: 03 Dec 20 13:16
If the market is to be believed it's maybe around

Jordan 32%
Gi  28%
Vernon 23%
Shane 17%
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 13:27
of the 4 remaining contestants who would you say is the most well known ?

in terms of TV and media over the years and the amount of shows he has been on and presented in the last 20 years  I would argue that its Vernon Kay

after that I would say its Shane Ritchie

I had never heard of either Giovanna or Jordan before this

which contestant has contributed most to the series .. i would say hands down its Shane
By:
Splinun1
When: 03 Dec 20 15:16
Shane at 20/1

Agree with Bardo, on what I’ve seen Shane should be fav. Dirty money IMO, yes I get he’s polling badly.

All in the last two edits IMO, the casuals will decide who win.

Besides, DS poll goes against all the others I’ve seen.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 15:24
lets not forget the market got last years h2h wrong or was that manipulation
plough andy down and let the sheep do the rest
andy hit 1.12, then a very late drift out to 1.31
as the sheep are keeping it down, the manipulator is ploughing into jossa and laying the 1.12
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Dec 20 15:31
last year didnt jossa have marriage problems that started coming out in the last few days
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 15:40
Fwiw... Ive been scrolling through thousands upon thousands of facebook comments

If truth be told, and i hate to admit it ... it seems that Jordan is very popular overall ... of  the 4 left  , there were far more Jordan to win comments than any other contestant

it seems pretty close between Jordan and Gio ...although almost  all the twitter polls one seen have Giovanna winning with about 45 % of the vote ..thats from about 20 different polls with about 3000 or so people sampled

I think its pretty clear that Shane will be next out followed by Vernon in 3rd place... anything else would be a huge shock .

Surely the fact that Gio has 1.6 million followers on Instagram, plus her celebrity friends banging the drum for her is going to be enough to get her over the line .?

Has Jordan been that entertaining ?.. I dont think so




Surely the fact that she has
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 15:43
GAZO

it was well known before the series to most
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 15:48
true bardo, but Gi fans are not gonna bang a massive drum for her..yeah shes nice, that doesn't generate support on sm
whereas jordan acting like a gimp, will get people howling and typing.
serial posters in there hundreds can make someone appear extremely popular and unbeatable, i wouldn't read that much into it

jordan has the last two edits massively in his favour, thats the worry.
Gi wont do a lot but he will act the clown

if jordans edits are average, Gi wins
if jordans edits are entertaining and hilarious he wins

simples
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 15:52
jordan is nailed on to making the journey speech saying how this has cured all his fears and anxiety's
the desperation in the greedy fecker getting one more trial the last 3 days tells a worrying story of someone desperate to win.
someone who knows the game
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 15:57
what you gotta ask yourselves is, how many has fallen for his act ?
usually enough of the audience, this is why i always lose in these situations, more than i can remember
apparently hes genuine lol, really ?
Gi is the genuine one and being herself, just not entertaining

im holding firm, my book remains the same as posted
but i think jordan wins these last two edits
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 16:05
and if we could get the winner of likes off a sm comment we'd all be very rich by now
polls tend to be reliable if not hacked, but thats all too easy these days as well
im guessing a lot of Gi's hardcore support are to busy wiping arses, feeding and running around after there sprogs Laugh
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 16:09
It begs the question... Has Vernon Kay not been as entertaining as Jordan

If anything one could argue Vernon has provided just as many laughs and been a part of as many daft moments as Jordan has

plus Vernon has that down to earth good northern lad thing going on .

so why is Jordan more popular ?
By:
Lifter
When: 03 Dec 20 16:10

Dec 3, 2020 -- 3:57PM, armagnac wrote:


what you gotta ask yourselves is, how many has fallen for his act ?usually enough of the audience, this is why i always lose in these situations, more than i can remember apparently hes genuine lol, really ?Gi is the genuine one and being herself, just not entertaining im holding firm, my book remains the same as postedbut i think jordan wins these last two edits


Yup! The audience is a lot more gullible than we tend to believe. I make that mistake every year

By:
Lifter
When: 03 Dec 20 16:13

Dec 3, 2020 -- 4:09PM, bardo wrote:


It begs the question... Has Vernon Kay not been as entertaining as JordanIf anything one could argue Vernon has provided just as many laughs and been a part of as many daft moments as Jordan hasplus Vernon has that down to earth good northern lad thing going on .so why is Jordan more popular ?


Honestly, if I hadn't looked at the odds then I would have the market the other way round.

Vernon has played a blinder AND he's the most famous person there.

By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 16:13
jordan is more popular bardo coz he's more endearing
By:
bardo
When: 03 Dec 20 17:30
take this with a grain of salt ...

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1368005/Im-A-Celebrity-Jordan-North-win-Vernon-Kay-runner-up-instagram-followers-data-itv-video
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 20 17:58
jordans mum was radio 1 earlier, grimmy show. big push from them
By:
Splinun1
When: 03 Dec 20 18:21
To be fair, Radio 1 pushed Adele last year, where did she get? Dead last
By:
Splinun1
When: 03 Dec 20 18:22
If there is an insider, we sure it’s not going for Vernon? Everyday his price is trickling down, has a good edit, rises back up only to repeat again?
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