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By:
scampi
When: 13 Dec 14 14:02
Yes squares, after 1st performance is unlikely IF leak not from Powers That Be. But possible IF from Powers That Be (they could publish after 1st performance figures in official results if they wanted to I suppose).
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 14:06
On one of the most incredible mornings of market movement we've ever seen!

On X factor yes........i was away all day and just logged on and my jaw hit the deskBlushBlushBlushBlush
By:
chepster
When: 13 Dec 14 14:09
The 'phone vote only' comment has moved the market Scampi
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 14:18

Dec 13, 2014 -- 12:45PM, bearcub wrote:


i usually see messages about a week late and people think i'm being ignorant


I once had a message about 6 months late from someone on the golf forum asking about how much the sender would win with so many dead heats. I resolved to check the top of the thread daily.

By:
Benjy
When: 13 Dec 14 14:27
Do we not get duets?
By:
squares
When: 13 Dec 14 14:29
doesn't look like there are the traditional duets were are used to anymore - been away most of the week, are all finalists singing with Take That, maybe Meghan Trainor?
By:
squares
When: 13 Dec 14 14:30
WE are
By:
Benjy
When: 13 Dec 14 14:31
Cheers Squares. Tres disappointing.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 14:34
Duets were quite embarrassing when a top singer is singing with a nobody.
By:
Benjy
When: 13 Dec 14 14:35
That adds entertainment. You can also usually tell who they want to win by the famous they get. And when they make it is a blatant as possible. Laugh
By:
cnman
When: 13 Dec 14 14:44
Weirdest thing about the leak is the first mention of it was at 2.32am this morning, yet Fleur was still 1.4x when I saw it at 9am. I know 2.30-9am aren't the most sociable hours but you'd have thought someone would have moved the market in that time, especially as it got a few twitter mentions in the early hours
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 14:45

Dec 13, 2014 -- 1:51PM, chepster wrote:


katie begley @begleyk  ·  21h 21 hours agoJust had a very nice present from @UKTV_Press - thanks!!! (The Jurno who wrote the piece)


I think that might be a Christmas Jumper cheps Grin

By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 14:46

Dec 13, 2014 -- 2:35PM, Benjy wrote:


That adds entertainment. You can also usually tell who they want to win by the famous they get. And when they make it is a blatant as possible.


I'm not sure....never watched it fully as my eyes tend to be watching the monitor for price movementsLaughLaughLaugh

By:
squares
When: 13 Dec 14 14:46
nice mauve one Laugh
By:
mach
When: 13 Dec 14 14:46
duets still being mentioned on the factor fb site yesterday
https://www.facebook.com/events/940153026025434/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular


This weekend Andrea Faustini, Ben Haenow or Fleur East will be crowned the WINNER of The X Factor 2014.

With very special Guest Performances from Ed Sheeran, Olly Murs & Demi Lovato, Meghan Trainor, One Direction AND Take That all taking place across the weekend - it's sure to be an epic end to an epic series!

Check out the songs the Finalists will be performing:
http://www.itv.com/xfactor/news/xfactor-finalists-songs-2014

...PLUS celebrity duets to be revealed very soon...

Don't miss any of the action:

Saturday, 8.30pm. Sunday, 8pm. ITV.

Find out more about your finalists:
http://www.itv.com/xfactor/andrea-faustini
http://www.itv.com/xfactor/ben-haenow
http://www.itv.com/xfactor/fleur-east
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 15:03
Thoughts were she might sing with Meghan and the 2 guys with Take That
Though from what I saw of Meghan performing on the Ellen show, Fleur would make her look like an amateur
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 15:20
Time for a nap. I hope I don't miss another flip flop
By:
bearcub
When: 13 Dec 14 15:23
Cry  You've only just got up
By:
squares
When: 13 Dec 14 15:28
unrtv article quoting Louis in Now magazine, and he said Ben or Andrea would win.
By:
Froggitt
When: 13 Dec 14 15:29

Dec 13, 2014 -- 1:51PM, chepster wrote:

katie begley @begleyk  ·  21h 21 hours agoJust had a very nice present from @UKTV_Press - thanks!!! (The Jurno who wrote the piece)


pearl necklace?

By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 15:34
If Fleur was 1.4 ish all week based on speculation, surely Benny boy should be 1.3 based on actual percentages.Confused
By:
bardo
When: 13 Dec 14 15:47
i think that theres even a chance now that Fleur could even come third if andrea reallly has a stormer he could easily overtake her.

I was never that convinced about Fleurs popularity.

Fleurs act and style is just far too urban for  middle England and when you see VT of Ben in the hospital shedding tears its obvious that this would give him an edge in the vote
By:
Benjy
When: 13 Dec 14 15:55
Aye, I always said despite Fleur's talent she doesn't have a winning profile at all.

Hope those on early doors have made a tidy profit either way.
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 13 Dec 14 15:57
It has been obvious for a long time that she has been struggling in the vote despite ridiculous levels of ramping.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 16:02
Ski-Wiz • December 7, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
Two songs next week......Fleur will sing a bad one and the odds will go over 2........simples.


Well i got two things wrongs....3 songs instead of two.......odds to go over 2 was before she sang. However the fact that the odds are now over 2 is mightily correct and erm.....simples.LaughLaugh
By:
chepster
When: 13 Dec 14 16:32
hmmmmmmmm. Not sure if I am being 'hooked' here but are people genuinely writing off Fleur or is this just forum talk?

For me Ben is a massive lay at current odds. Okay we assume he is leading in some part of the public vote (I think it mentions the housewife vote) but as suggested this could just be (and is likely to be) the telephone vote. This will be easily eclipsed by app votes of which we 'possibly' know nothing about. I would much rather focus (a great indication in previous years) on the price that has held up throughout this week than a piece written on the day of the final that may be completely misleading. Okay it could also be complete information (which I think is unlikely) but the rate at which Fleur hit number 1 is unlike anything seen before and for me she has a bucket of momentum going into the final. 

Once Simon dismisses the leak on tonight show (or Bruno takes to the stage) do we go back to original prices?? Devil
By:
Froggitt
When: 13 Dec 14 16:42
^^^^^^ this
By:
Froggitt
When: 13 Dec 14 16:44
However, top secret voting records, seen by the Daily Star, reveal that Ben picked up 50% of the Daily Mail voters in last week’s semi-final – more than double those cast for Fleur.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 16:45
than a piece written on the day of the final that may be completely misleading.

The problem with that is in the previous years the leaks happened 3/4 weeks before the final. AFAIK none this year until today. Ben and Fleur biggish greens and Andrea small green is a sensible option.
By:
chepster
When: 13 Dec 14 16:50
I agree Ski. I just think the current Ben Price (obviously based on it throughout the week) screams 'Lay'.

Please don't see this as a ramp attempt because it genuinely isn't. I just seem to be alone in my thoughts and I don't like that.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 13 Dec 14 17:02
I don't think the odds will change much until the singing starts. It's all about positioning now and a couple of trades to boost the greens.
By:
bearcub
When: 13 Dec 14 17:05
They year Jimmy won we got a leak 5 mins before the final started

Was spot on
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 17:05
Not sure you are alone cheps. I would have thought the phone vote is a tiny percentage of the vote. 10% might even be generous. The massive increase in voting clearly isn't down to more viewers
Who would pay to vote when you can vote 5x for free. Only people without a smartphone. Mostly over 50's?
By:
chepster
When: 13 Dec 14 17:06
Spot on 5 leaves. Im heading home for some beers and a takeaway and will reassess my position tomorrow.

Best of luck all. Hope its profitable
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 17:07
Over 50's most likely to lap up his tearful vt last week too
By:
bearcub
When: 13 Dec 14 17:09
We don't know
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 17:09
GL cheps. Have a good night
By:
Henry VIII
When: 13 Dec 14 17:09
I don’t know what to believe. Very weird if true. Goes against all polls.
-----------------------------------
DS News 37,000 voters

Fleur 58.8%
Ben 24.76%
Andrea 16.41%

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a616399/the-x-factor-final-readers-back-fleur-east-to-beat-ben-and-andrea.html#~oYkVzhEw3KvSJe

------------------------------------
Mirror

Fleur 43%
Ben 27%
Andrea 23%

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/x-factor-secrets-dermot-oleary-4793911

------------------------------------
All the other polls the same, but the above two are normally good. I think there was also one in the Sun if anyone has it.
By:
bearcub
When: 13 Dec 14 17:10
Isn't the sun poll the 1 certain people are claiming to be a yougov poll
By:
five leaves left
When: 13 Dec 14 17:10
Wot bear says, but the assumption is that the star leaks have always been the phone vote and not included texts, or the app now
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