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Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:11 AM BST
Gay Thread. Reported
Report timbuctooth September 14, 2013 1:11 AM BST
With so much disagreement tonight, over various issues, surely one thing we can all agree on is that we all loved BB winner Sophie?
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 1:11 AM BST
Laugh
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:11 AM BST
Soph Love
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:12 AM BST
I adored Sara from BB9? Love
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:12 AM BST
80's into 3 ish helped Love
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Ramps Love
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Sammy P LoveLoveLove
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Corin twice Love
Report George Bailey September 14, 2013 1:13 AM BST

Sep 13, 2013 -- 7:03PM, five leaves left wrote:


Jai was one of my most painful losses, because unlike many on here I thought it was a winning performance.I was ready to increase my green until Cowell deramped him. Then I stupidly bottled it


Jai Cry...contradicting myself but that 2400 green down to a 400 win or whatever still hurts like feck. Cowell and twitter did for my bottle...would have thought TVPolls would have saved you fll...I couldn't work out why the jai plunge till too late.

Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Twice?
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:14 AM BST
Yes. I dumped her @ 3 ish. Then she drifted when people thought she might be evicted and bought back at 14 Love
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:15 AM BST
She was fav again within days
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:15 AM BST
Dumped her in the end though. Or partly
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:17 AM BST

Sep 13, 2013 -- 7:13PM, George Bailey wrote:


Sep 14, 2013 --  1:03AM, five leaves left wrote:Jai was one of my most painful losses, because unlike many on here I thought it was a winning performance.I was ready to increase my green until Cowell deramped him. Then I stupidly bottled itJai ...contradicting myself but that 2400 green down to a 400 win or whatever still hurts like feck. Cowell and twitter did for my bottle...would have thought TVPolls would have saved you fll...I couldn't work out why the jai plunge till too late.


I bought some back, but I was late seeing Tvpolls and his price had already collapsed

Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:18 AM BST
btw keep an eye open for another OAP train coming soon GB Wink
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Corin too harsh a face to win

Stupid assessment, but probably true

Like Vic
Report timbuctooth September 14, 2013 1:19 AM BST
LuckyAz, where have you come from? Zero posts ever until tonight, now  20 posts in one night! We`re honoured, so welcome to our little dark corner of both the forum, and the betting industry.
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Just do a study on the faces of winners might be revealing
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:20 AM BST
probably, but Corin, along with Andrew & Pepper meant that was my biggest ever win on BB. Despite never really backing the winner
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 1:21 AM BST
check out our already burgeoning music thread tim

all depressing tunes so far, sorry Laugh
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 1:23 AM BST
Thanks Tim, have only recently started looking at the specials market seriously having given up on the footy!
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 1:24 AM BST
Not one to usually post but you guys seem like a good laugh when we're not crying over our losses! Cry
Report TheMadness September 14, 2013 1:25 AM BST
I'm listening to Janet Baker sing Ivor Gurney's Sleep. Doesn't get much more dperessing than that
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 1:27 AM BST
Could be worse, could be watching an episode of GS!
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:42 AM BST
Laugh lucky
Report TheMadness September 14, 2013 1:43 AM BST
It really is one of the greatest songs ever written imo
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:51 AM BST
You need to put it in the brand new music thread TM.
I can only find Sarah Connolly (no relation to Rosemary I guess) singing it on youtube
Very enjoyable.
As was this evening.
Next stop strictly. I think the lives must start before XF
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 1:56 AM BST
Waaaaaaaa bear made me sell all my Charlotte green Cry
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 1:57 AM BST
That evil bear Devil
Did he make you put it on Mario hems?
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 1:58 AM BST
I'm stupid.....but not that stupid Wink
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 1:58 AM BST
I take it there was carnage on here tonight? Sad
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 1:59 AM BST
Here's one for all us losers tonight & I think there's a lot of us around, keep your head up & onwards & upwards! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:00 AM BST
For a few I think, but most were pretty happy with the positions they took
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:02 AM BST
Not as bad as I feared then,I thought quite a few would have done their conkers.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:02 AM BST
More of an argument over whether there was inside money than how GS won.
We get that after every well backed winner lands the odds though.
I think if you watch the show hems, you'll see why GS shortened. No evidence of insider money for me.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:03 AM BST
A few conkers done, but by long term winners. Which softens the blow
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 2:04 AM BST
Moreover people not believing GS would get the votes she did to push her over the line, I still can't get over it, but have accepted it.
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:04 AM BST
The old insider money argument again Cry

Usually put forward by those who have lost on the market.How low did she hit ?
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 2:05 AM BST
1.4 on here, PP went as low as 1.17 before suspending
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:06 AM BST
Cheers.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:06 AM BST
Started to drift before suspension. 1.53 last price matched
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:08 AM BST
Paddies crazy leaving their market open after the result was already known. Though those who took advantage of the price even crazier.
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 2:09 AM BST
Sorry FLL, 1.4 was the lowest she hit
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:09 AM BST
All the trends busted on this one then.

Weird series for me.I fancied GS to possibly buck the trends,but never though her price was big enough.

Must confess though I expected Abz to win tonight,although I did post my concerns yesterday that as he was the "none of the above" candidate it may not transfer to actual votes.
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 2:11 AM BST
I think CCB did as well as his band were singing the show out tonight! Cry
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:11 AM BST
Hope aa kept his green,as I think he was wavering yesterday.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:12 AM BST
Not sure how aa did. He doesn't tend to play til late these days.
OK guys. Nite. I feel like I could sleep for a week after 8 weeks of BB and 3 weeks of CBB.
XF & Strictly a piece of p1ss in comparison
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:13 AM BST
Nite pal.
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 2:16 AM BST
Night all & well done winners for recognising the 'yoof' of today are that messed up to actually vote for GS! Crazy
Report hemsby September 14, 2013 2:19 AM BST
Nite LA.
Report George Bailey September 14, 2013 9:51 AM BST
Not just the yoof Lucky.  We need to take as much as we can from this learning wise.  One factor not discussed was the viewing numbers. Someone posted about 1.7m the other day. Do we know what the final figures were? The lower the numbers the more accurate twitter becomes.  Someone posted the "to win" tweets and GS was ahead of that iirc.  Normally with the mass viewing events you can safely ignore twitter but with minority events it can clearly still be a good indicator.
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 9:58 AM BST
IMO you're right GB, personally think viewing figures & voting numbers a lot lower than last year due to most viewers having switched off by the final week, a poor series compared to last year when Spedi made things a bit more interesting. High light of this show was an adult wetting her bed
Report LuckyAz September 14, 2013 9:58 AM BST
...& people still voted for her! Cry
Report squares September 14, 2013 2:10 PM BST
from tmix

Big Brother 2013 ended to some disappointing viewing figures last night.

Around 1.7 million viewers watched who won Celebrity Big Brother 2013 in the second of the night’s show, which aired at 11PM.

An average audience of 2.2 million watched the final instalment from the house and first results from 9PM on Channel 5.

But 500,000 fewer cared about actually seeing who won between the final two, as ratings dived for the later show.

And those figures include those who caught up later using Channel 5′s catchup service.

Overall, this year’s Celebrity Big Brother was pretty much in line with last summer’s series, with an average audience of around 2 million viewers.

Elsewhere on last night’s telly, and Channel 5′s new reality series Celebrity Superspa, started with 1.1 million inbetween the two Big Brother episodes at 10PM.
Report lookingon September 14, 2013 2:26 PM BST
To be honest I wasn't going to bother watching her winning it as I already knew the result.
Can't believe they don't announce the winner live. Two really crappy finals this year.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:30 PM BST
Poor for a final.
The C5 guy said at Edinburgh that they went for slightly older and more intelligent HM's in the main BB this year, which led to the most successful BB for many years.
In CBB they change tack and stupidly chase the 'yoof' again. Pushing a yoof fav to victory. Marginalising the older and more intelligent HM's and painting them as boring old fogies. Hence I suspect alienating their core audience. The same mistake C4 made with the Belo series
Very odd.
Report lookingon September 14, 2013 2:41 PM BST
Oh well! At least we don't have to look at anymore crappy housemates for a while.
I'm of to the garden centre to look at something worth looking at....Nature.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 2:50 PM BST
Have a good day looking.
I did the same yesterday. Only went for a bag of compost and came out with a trolley full of plants, as always.
Report lookingon September 14, 2013 2:58 PM BST
Thanks figgy, That always happens, should have shares in the placeHappy
Bye bye for nowHappy
Report J.O.TOBIN. September 14, 2013 3:06 PM BST
You sure the compost wasnt one of Charlottes lasagnes figgyLaugh that will make you tomatoes grow.
Report George Bailey September 14, 2013 3:10 PM BST
C5 need to realise that a room full of young people is an empty room.
Report five leaves left September 14, 2013 3:12 PM BST
lol JOT. I'm just eating Sad
Report The Kitten September 14, 2013 6:06 PM BST
I took a bit of a hit. But I'll rise again like a fooking phoenix, I will, you watch!
Report George Bailey September 14, 2013 6:35 PM BST
Surely your Lauren green was big enough to trade to a decent bet to nowt? Lauren a difficult one to lay at the optimum time tbf.
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 6:36 PM BST
Ok

We were caught out by a combo of things

Lower audience figures - some mems having switched off
Our man perhaps not appealing to mems quite enough
Poor coverage of him in the last 2 days plus a bit of a GS ramp
The youngster actually capturing the imagination of the youth for once
Vote transfer to her after Carol fcked it and Mario proved useless. She prolly had some slummy mums vote by the end
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 6:36 PM BST
Same people who liked Katona, Denise and Paddy
Report GeorgeBrush September 14, 2013 7:03 PM BST
A few times I've made the mistake of not paying enough attention to the momentum right at the death. It switched with a couple of days to go
Report scampi September 15, 2013 2:21 AM BST
Great last 3 posts GB, totally agree. Really do think Charlotte's speech was enough to inpire the younger viewers to vote even more than they would have  and the older viewers to change their opinion of her (thinking  back to their younger days perhaps). The 8.30-9.00pm show was literally a Charlotte Ramp Mini Highlights Show.  Oh hindsight is such a wonderful thing :(.
[I'm not a Stalker honest- just you make a lot of sense]
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 10:30 AM BST
Bloody stalker Wink

Nah, I don't think we realise so much that the voting dynamic and the actual people that vote change a bit every series. Probably more so on CBB than BB. Who can explain the Paddy / Katona top 2?  A grunting gypsy with very little overage and one of those most awful women in Britain. Fortunately the polls indicated both were popular

Denise and Frankie both beat the conservative choice of Gareth

Perhaps the conservative mem vote that won it for Sam is declining too gradually

It seems CBB audiences like a bit of bad behaviour
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 10:45 AM BST
So basically its all won in the house? Paddy and Frankie overturned their public image/stereotypes. Gareth showed he was basically boring even though before going in he ticked a lot of boxes. Denise showed the vulnerability that MEMs could relate to unlike Carol or Vicky.
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 10:47 AM BST
Always was, GS won it in the house too, despite protests to the contrary
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 10:48 AM BST
And Carol lost it in the house, a crucial factor in GS winning
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 10:50 AM BST
Which means its a very democratic process where the "electorate" give every candidate a chance afresh...unlike politics where 95% have made their mind up even before they know who is standing in their area.
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 10:53 AM BST
even absolute ****s like derek laud and big mac have been afforded time of day

The only ones that aren't are fallen women like sophie or danielle types
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 10:56 AM BST
I asked army who looked the most vulnerable in the house when it was kicking off between Vic and GS

I backed GS, unfortunately getting cold feet later when she was joining in the bitching about Lauren. That didn't matter, it was what most of the audience thought too
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 11:00 AM BST
So many winners have that vulnerable trait, unfortunately the forum thought that meant lauren
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 11:02 AM BST
Lauren was outed as a gameplayer...tbf to GS layers/non backers there were so many times it looked like she had blown it e.g. the twitter messages that who could blame a cautious approach.
Report squares September 15, 2013 11:04 AM BST
Lauren wasn't vulnerable, she was needy and desperate.
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 11:06 AM BST
Yep, youth are afforded a massively longer rope

A few good moments can forgive 3 weeks of blunders
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 11:08 AM BST
We are probably underestimating the slummy mummy vote that wanted to mother her

I doubt the youth vote was enough alone, and now we'll prolly overestimate it in future heats
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 11:15 AM BST
Just watch that Bouncers series set in the north east. Young girls, their mums and their grandmothers all out on the lash together and the grans are more up for it than the kids. The grans are mostly in their 40s. Why would they hate GS when they are just older versions?
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 11:17 AM BST
I dare not watch, might recognise people
Report Cider September 15, 2013 11:52 AM BST
for me Lauren was calculating and more than a little creepy.
Report squares September 15, 2013 11:55 AM BST
yep, those as well.

Manipulative too.

And seemed to start off as a sort of a child figure in the group and ended up more a motherly figure.  Very odd and uncomfortable person to watch for me.
Report squares September 15, 2013 11:57 AM BST
for me there were quite a few people who made for uncomfortable viewing.
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 11:59 AM BST
And quite a few books as well
Report scampi September 15, 2013 12:01 PM BST
Think we'll have to create a new demographic: JKM=Jeremy Kyle Mums. I partly blame his program (and programs like Geordie Shore) for bringing down the morals of this country. The more that people watch it the more they think that sort of behaviour is acceptable. The program does seem very popular amongst woman. I have to leave the room when it's on.
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:09 PM BST
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the masses.
Report squares September 15, 2013 12:13 PM BST
Broken Britain Mums
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:16 PM BST
Wonga adverts.....everyone wanting their 15 minutes...lousy talentless celeb role models...bookies dominating every high street (has to be said)....lost moral compasses...and we are surprised Charlotte wins?
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:17 PM BST
TM has hacked my account Shocked
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 12:24 PM BST
Nah, he'd have casually chucked something in about immigration Wink
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:26 PM BST
true so I will differentiate myself from him by adding....the rise of UKIP...the demonisation of the sick and the disabled......
Report scampi September 15, 2013 12:27 PM BST
The way things are going  we'll have to account for Eastern European Mums.
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:27 PM BST
....morally bankrupt self serving social, political and economic elite
Report GeorgeBrush September 15, 2013 12:27 PM BST
oooof scamps Laugh
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:28 PM BST
Yes could be a Big Issue in future events
Report bearcub September 15, 2013 12:40 PM BST
You'll be selling the Big Issue if you keep up with this Hg rubbish Wink
Report George Bailey September 15, 2013 12:43 PM BST
When it stops winning me money I will drop it Wink
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