Monday Night Raw - Daley gets KO'd

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11.58pm: The twins are doing Little Britain impressions in the bedroom. #bbuklive


plan b already hatched i see
pair of pr!cks
hope its as contrived as neighbours

"I was terrified"

Then walk out of the room instead of continuing to goad him

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Charlie wants her mum to go

You left out the winner, Only-the-Brave - Charlie

  forgot about her.  Could potentially get to the final I suppose.  Or maybe one of the last ones voted out before then.

Be interested to see how it would have played out between Daley & Hazel had BB not intervened. Dexter might well have got his wish & Daley would have gone through the front door. Possibly the back door as well.

"Daley should have gone.
Hazel should have gone."

She was just being stupid and slutty. Standard BB fare. How does she know how to react? I dare say that level of threat is not an everyday experience for her.

Charlie playing Dexter in a much more subtle way than Hazel

Link to LF anyone?

"She was just being stupid and slutty"

And aggressive and manipulative

Oh, channel 5 site has loaded at last.
Must be plenty watching

http://www.channel5.com/bigbrother

"I was terrified"

Then walk out of the room instead of continuing to goad him

I'd like to see you try to walk out of a room when you have boxer pinning your neck down

On the website

He had his hands round her neck for a few seconds

where on the website? can't see the green eye.

"I'd like to see you try to walk out of a room when you have boxer pinning your neck down"

He let go and she immediately put her hand on his neck and looked him in the eye and said "I'm not afraid of aggressive men"

It's just on the main site Gb

i am on the main site i think

I think they only have capacity for a few 100 thought the twats

http://www.channel5.com/bigbrother

Use that link Gb and it should just be the green eye, i just tried it in another window

A Dan backer keeps putting 4K up, then taking it away.

"I'd like to see you try to walk out of a room when you have boxer pinning your neck down"

He let go and she immediately put her hand on his neck and looked him in the eye and said "I'm not afraid of aggressive men"

Wrong again.  He didn't have her pinned down at that point.  He was just talking about doing 'scary sh1t' then.  She was terrified when he had her pinned down and threatened to do her nut in.

BB should be uncomfortable to watch at times. That's if you still hold onto the belief that it's a social experiment. Putting people in stressful situations and showing the consequences warts and all.
Unfortunately the Prods have lost their bottle since the Shilpa hysteria and now they continually tell us it's a fooking game show

""I'd like to see you try to walk out of a room when you have boxer pinning your neck down"

He let go and she immediately put her hand on his neck and looked him in the eye and said "I'm not afraid of aggressive men"

Wrong again.  He didn't have her pinned down at that point.  He was just talking about doing 'scary sh1t' then.  She was terrified when he had her pinned down and threatened to do her nut in."

Nope, she followed up him grabbing hold of her neck by grabbing his neck. Then he hovered over her and said the part about nutting her

Just looking on youtube. Can't find the HL's footage yet. Just the slapped arse and Gina playing with her t1ts afterwards.
She looks terrified

you will find better stuff on Xtube

liquidity in the outright market is very poor

tvpolls results on the safe house...

Who do you want to go to the Safe House?                                            
          100%                                                           
     Jack & Joe     17%     █████████████████                                       
     Gina & Dan     21%     █████████████████████                                       
     Dexter & Charlie     23%     ███████████████████████                                  
     Hazel & Daley     19%     ███████████████████                                       
     Callum & Jackie     8%     ███████                                                 
     Sophie & Sam     13%     ████████████

Hazel FLL

is there porn on the internet?

..and why do I keep calling Hazel, Gina?

""I'd like to see you try to walk out of a room when you have boxer pinning your neck down"

He let go and she immediately put her hand on his neck and looked him in the eye and said "I'm not afraid of aggressive men"

Wrong again.  He didn't have her pinned down at that point.  He was just talking about doing 'scary sh1t' then.  She was terrified when he had her pinned down and threatened to do her nut in."

Nope, she followed up him grabbing hold of her neck by grabbing his neck. Then he hovered over her and said the part about nutting her

If that's what you think happened you need to watch it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcSnyjESA9c

Tvpolls showing it's still the best poll around by a mile

I'm willing to lay you some 5/1 Hazel

This Dan "backer" maybe trying to push the price down in order to lay.

five leaves left 16 Jul 13 00:01 
TBH I don't think either should have gone.
BB is at it's best when it pushes the limits.

five leaves left 16 Jul 13 00:16 
BB should be uncomfortable to watch at times. That's if you still hold onto the belief that it's a social experiment. Putting people in stressful situations and showing the consequences warts and all.
Unfortunately the Prods have lost their bottle since the Shilpa hysteria and now they continually tell us it's a fooking game show



That`s pretty much what I think.

The original Dazel, ie Dan and Hazel, will be back. Hazel can't exist without a man.

Okay, watched it...

Grabbed her neck, said he'd finish her, she said she'd finish him, she grabbed his neck, he asked do you think you're the terminator, and then said he'd nut her...

My description...

"Nope, she followed up him grabbing hold of her neck by grabbing his neck. Then he hovered over her and said the part about nutting her"

That's what happened.

Gina probably get the third most votes to go this week.

Yeah the little girl threatened the big boxer right back so it's just the same. W@@nkers.

Which little girl is this Henry?

5'5" Hazel

No one's saying she threatened him... We're saying they were both playing

They were mirroring each other before they got ready to screw each other

Small in stature but as she said herself, she's capable of handling aggressive men

But ultimately what TM says. It was foreplay and neither of them were genuinely threatening each other

Twins ramping up the "entertainment" on live feed

got it bear thanks

They know it's live now. They tell them for some reason

Jackie suggesting her plea this time may be "please vote me out". And I had such high hopes for her

The Twins birthday is coming up. Let's hope they don't show that either

The vote to evict makes me a bit nervous with Gina at times. Vote to save and she'd be topping it like Aaron

Well, this issue has certainly stirred up the forum. I only remember the regs venting with each other like this once before, (except when Lou`s involved, of course) although I`ve forgotten what we were arguing about that time. Maybe about a year ago? So maybe Mr. Mark Simkin, aka Mr. Patricia Penrose? Interestingly, it appears that not one of us have changed our pre-show views.

Joe on his own seems an ok lad
Put him with Jack and they're a pair of nobs

TM the casual voters only come in in force for the final. Gina's legions will see her safe by getting rid of Jackie.

Plus Jackie has a decent negative rating all by herself.

Both should have been evicted but Daley's action were obviously a lot worse. Someone saying they are not afraid of aggressive men is not the same as saying they like aggressive men. Hazel definitely wanted rough sex but there nothing wrong with that. Conor said a lot worse about a female housemate last year than Daley said tonight but he had to go for putting his hand around her neck in a serious way which was definitely not play fighting.

tim the forums a lot friendlier place than it used to be
5 or so years ago there used to be bickering on a nightly basis

Really, bear? I don`t remember that, but I was only lurking then, so probably didn`t notice it so much.

I don`t know about marrying her or anything, but Gina would be great fun on a night out.

The most shocking part of tonight which no one seems to have mentioned is that after what happened Big Brother put Daley back in the same room as Hazel.

Which surely proves that nobody was really threatened.

It proves they don't have a senior member of staff watching live overnight.

Think the giveaway that Gina is really from a council estate and acting posh is that she says Gosh too often and in a not very believable way.

years ago with the likes of dj, balloo  Damien and the rest there was some right arguments.

Mainly down to them ramping the feck out of someone and trying to shout down anyone with a different view

Rylan Ross Clark ‏@RylanClark 2m

Re Daleys ejection from the house: me and @AJOdudu can only speak about it on the show as much as we are told to in this situation for Legal reasons. At the end of the day Big Brothers decision is final.

Think Hazel was not as threatened as she said she was. The main thing on her mind was having sex. But theres no doubt Daley was not play acting and was being deadly serious in his words and especially actions. That was the real Daley tonight.

My 1st experience on a forum was the old C4 BB forum during BB7.
If you can survive the insane women on there and love of Aisleyne that year, then betfair holds no fear for you.

timbuctooth 16 Jul 13 00:55 
Which surely proves that nobody was really threatened.

Henry VIII 16 Jul 13 00:56 
It proves they don't have a senior member of staff watching live overnight.

If it's a choice between these as to why Daley was put back in the same room as Hazel overnight, I agree with tim. To suggest there's not a senior member of staff there at all times is a weak argument imo

and their love*

Henry, are you really saying that if the issue was as serious as they`ve chosen to make out, that even the tea-boy would have sent a `terrified` Hazel back in there with her would-be assailant/rapist? Surely not? Leaving aside the fact that no genuinely terrified woman would ever have agreed to go back!

Not at all DJ. I used to work in TV. Whoever was the shift senior didn't feel confident enough to take any action without discussion. It's a big decision, a lot of press repercussions etc.

The fact that Hazel was obviously not as threatened as she later said does not mean Daley did not act in a very threatening way. Never mind threatening. He was actually violent. He put his hand around her neck and pinned her to the bed. She was not as threatened as she said simply because the only thing on her mind was sex.

Daleys leaving diary room comments summed up the type of person he is. He say nothing wrong with his actions - especially put your hand around a womans neck.

Tim it was a stupid decision to let her go back but they would have felt that the formal warning to Daley and the fact that he was contrite would have been enough. AS it turned out to be in fact. He only got aggressive again the next day when they ejected him.

"Think the giveaway that Gina is really from a council estate and acting posh is that she says Gosh too often and in a not very believable way."

My understanding is that she grew up quite rough but one of the parents became very successful.

They obviously havn't told them were watching

It looks like we won't be getting much action tonight.

As for Dazel. It was 2 adults involved in some consensual rough foreplay. If there were no cameras there or even if BB hadn't intervened, they'd have shagged and everyone would have woken up happy.

End of story

as tim says H - a staff member with enough seniority will have made the decision that Hazel would not be under any threat of physical and/or serious verbal abuse if Daley was sent back in overnight. I'm sure this was done with total confidence. And as tim says, Hazel could easily have asked to be moved if she felt under any sort of threat. I imagine they both crashed out almost immediately after they got back to bed tbh - the 'party' was definitely over

Altho ofc not the end of the story because the overly cautious prods make yet another crazy decision and throw Daley out

If there were no cameras there or even if BB hadn't intervened, they'd have shagged and everyone would have woken up happy.

True. Huge sexual frustration was a key part in why it all became so aggressive

I did not see two people play fighting. I just saw Hazel play fighting. To be fair to her she probably thought he was play fighting but anyone watching on tv could be left in no doubt Daley was being very serious with all his words and actions.

I was watching and I didn't think Daley had any serious intent to do anything apart from have consensual sex with Hazel

As for what would have happened if there had been no cameras there and it had been outside the house..... you cant say that because a lot of Hazels actions are because of the tv cameras in my opinion. Think she wanted to come out of the house with a reputation of having sex inside the house and make the most outside of the house due to that notoriety.

OK, we`ve all had our say, we`ve all failed miserably to persuade anyone in the opposite camp to see that we are right, despite going on about it for hours. BB has forgotten it ever happened, and I`m going to do the same. Particularly since the whole episode has no effect whatsoever on the betting side of things, rendering our discussion academic

Yes, all pretty fruitless. Off to play some poker, which given the form I'm in is likely to be fruitless too.

I changed my view on watching the footage. Mainly in Daley's favour. As Hazel was equally guilty imv so they both should have stayed with a warning, or both been booted. The bb prods should have a look in the mirror because they got what they wanted, and blamed the housemates.

Henry, I'd be careful pinning your hopes on Jackie topping the vote. She might have some negative ratings but not many will 'hate' her enough to vote, and asking to leave won't do a great deal. I suspect she would have to have an awful edit and others to be protected to lose.

Cider she said on the live feed that she's going to ask the public to vote her out and Jackie was happy with that. Shame because she's my biggest green . Of course she could change her mind.

I'd like Dexter to go.

That's not usually a good thing tho. Especially with so many other options.

What's not usually a good thing?

The edits will of course be crucial. None of the 5 are especially hated, there's no Wolfy or Hazel.

Housemates asking to be voted out. People won't tend to waste their money on someone who doesn't want to be there anyway.

Not sure. I don't know if there's a precedent.

Jack Dee?

The fun in vote to evict is wiping the smile off someone's face. Totally different in a vts she'd be my favourite.

Did Jack Dee really want to leave though? I didn't see that CBB. He would have the confidence to just walk whereas Jackie may not. At least not until after she has this opportunity of leaving by the front door.

Just thinking about the two voters I know - middle aged women - they like to do the "right" thing. None of the hm's get over about 15% on dislike polls. A plea to leave could easily swing it.

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