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Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:27 PM BST
Barlow crying into his beer tonight Grin
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 9:27 PM BST
Kye the final one saved last week. Jade B2 next week?
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:29 PM BST
Any Ella backers petrified at her not being in the top 2 and Jahmene leading her Week 02 as per the Daily Star story? I'm laying like mad!
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 9:30 PM BST
No. She doesn't have a sob story
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 9:30 PM BST
No. Jahmene can't keep it going. I don't connect with him whatsoever. In fact, experience suggests they're already having to bring out the big guns to keep his vote afloat. James is more likely to be top boy.
Report TheFink October 21, 2012 9:30 PM BST
I'm sure Ella backers are quaking in their boots :)
Report judorick October 21, 2012 9:31 PM BST
yes been laying Ella ever since she went below 2 about two weeks ago, mainly in expectation of a drift later

james and union J could force her price out
Report mach October 21, 2012 9:31 PM BST
put 1k up on ella @ 1.9 and I will take RMBWink
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:32 PM BST
Jahmene sob story was surely pulled out to get MK1 and Baloney in the b2. If he's topping the votes behind Baloney then it's a concern. Fact is he was at Sam L Jacksons event other night too, bound to get the producers wanting him to go very far.
Report Cider October 21, 2012 9:32 PM BST
Be interesting to see what they do to Baloney next week Happy
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:32 PM BST
I'll give you 20k at 1.8 mach.
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 9:32 PM BST
Bear in mind, chaps, Jade is 5th fave to win the show, just behind Union J
Report mach October 21, 2012 9:33 PM BST
sorry RMB I'm small timeLaugh
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 9:37 PM BST
how much have you layed Ella for then RMB ?
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:37 PM BST
Wonder if they stop trying to get rid of Baloney and just let nature take it's course.
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:37 PM BST
Not enough bearcub, wondering why people aren't worried.
Report johnwark October 21, 2012 9:38 PM BST
"Are you going to celebrate Jahmene?"

"I'll probably take a sleeping pill and go to bed"

Charisma vaccuum
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 9:39 PM BST
Well how much ?
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:40 PM BST
Ella just had a pretty ropey week and drifted all of 5 clicks rmb
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:45 PM BST
You bearcub?
Report GymTanLaundry October 21, 2012 9:46 PM BST
ella just had the pimp slot - didm't make the most of it.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:46 PM BST
Don't think she had a ropey one at all.  She's been good every week.  Could be even money by the weekend though.
Report judorick October 21, 2012 9:47 PM BST
I am expecting the drift to come when they are down to 4 contestants and the support for James, UJ and Jahmene/whoever looks more solid

same thing happened with devlin and vickers which is why I am on lay to back ella
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:47 PM BST

Oct 21, 2012 -- 3:45PM, RMB © wrote:


You bearcub?


Laugh  get a grip

Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 9:47 PM BST
Just means she's due another pimp at a crucial point later in series
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 9:49 PM BST

Oct 21, 2012 -- 3:45PM, RMB © wrote:


You bearcub?


CryCryCryCryCryCry

Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:50 PM BST

Oct 21, 2012 -- 3:46PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


Don't think she had a ropey one at all.

Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:50 PM BST
Danzaa

So is Jahmene though isn't he.  James, the two boybands not had one yet.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:50 PM BST
Ropey song choice then Lou. Didn't quite push it like she can either
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:50 PM BST
You don't want to say bearcub? You just backed her then, no lays despite Daily Star news?
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:51 PM BST
Great news for you Lou, Jahmene 2nd behind no hoper Baloney in overall votes Week 2. Looks good.
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 9:51 PM BST
http://www.digital spy.co.uk/tv /s103/the-x-fact or/news/a292859 /in-full-x-fa ctor-weekly-vot ing-results.html
(no spaces)

Note One Direction's vote share throughout, they were a much slicker operation. Union J are arguably better singers but IMO they're pushed out of the market anyway by One Direction themselves. I won't be placing a penny on Union J.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:52 PM BST
George

Yes I thought she never quite belted it out myself ............... and I still gave her 'best of the night' in my summing up.  She'll be good every week don't worry about that.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:55 PM BST
RMB

Not a bad thing at all that he's supposedly doing well in the votes but I do tend to take these things with a pinch of salt.  I know people here would say that The Daily Star have a great record with their 'leaks' and I'm sure that must be true but Baloney topping the vote?  If they'd have said Ella, Jahmene, one of the boybands even I'd have taken it on board a bit more perhaps ......... but Baloney?
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 9:56 PM BST
I dont want to say what RMb ?

I had a small bet on her before the market opened on here thats all.

Nothing worth worrying about laying off. She's still the most likely winner.
My main interest is the eliminations, I cant be bothered second guessing a production team over 12 weeks when i can profit, hopefully, weekly without being influenced by my outright
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:56 PM BST
Apparently the Star have never been wrong with X Factor though so looks very solid. Looks very good as I think Jahmene has more to offer.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 9:57 PM BST

Oct 21, 2012 -- 3:52PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


GeorgeYes I thought she never quite belted it out myself ............... and I still gave her 'best of the night' in my summing up.  She'll be good every week don't worry about that.


Hence I'm not worried about her drifting much. Unless b2 of course

Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:57 PM BST
RMB

Well I hope so.  He's in with a real shout I agree.
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 9:58 PM BST
You two are insane.
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 9:58 PM BST
Good stuff bearcub. I've layed off 10% of my stake, want to lay more off but not going to happen, but the Daily Star has got me bricking myself and surprised others are very cool calm and composed especially with Adele vibes coming at Ella most weeks and others saying she's very dull. Weekly evictions much more fun though then outright, definitely.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 9:58 PM BST
Blimey she'll never be bottom 2!  I think we can all pretty much take it she'll be in the final 3 at the very least.
Report Cider October 21, 2012 9:59 PM BST
A lot of us on here week one thought Baloney would poll very well when he sung. Very 'x factor' friendly. It was him being invisible on traditional measures that put us off the scent, then he was given the 'treatment' week 2.
Report Cider October 21, 2012 10:00 PM BST
It is clear why he is getting the 'treatment' now.
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 10:01 PM BST
Wonder what Danzaas position and views are?
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:02 PM BST
Baloney for the final anyone?  Voting chart similar to eggy maybe.
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:03 PM BST
much steeper decline I suspect
Report RMB © October 21, 2012 10:03 PM BST
Stu is on for a massive payout though, he was on Maloney on the spreads.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:03 PM BST

Oct 21, 2012 -- 3:58PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


Blimey she'll never be bottom 2!

Report mach October 21, 2012 10:04 PM BST
home town support, gets washed away in a mass vote at the end
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 10:04 PM BST
My position is this: Jahmene can not win this show. The second he's booted off, hindsight will kick in and it'll be obvious why he went. Year after year we see the same thing with forumites and this kind of stuff. He can not win, he won't sell records. Have you seen an X Factor final? Go and watch last year's in Wembley stadium and tell me that Jahmene in his suit and bow-tie and high-pitched voice stands a chance.

Final is James Arther and Ella. Union J 3rd, possibly.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:04 PM BST
Ella could be b2 at some point I think Lou. Everyone thinks someone else is doing their vote for them Lou
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 10:04 PM BST
Mary was polling similar to Maloney and was given the treatment

They found it very difficult to get rid of her and i suspect it will be similar with Maloney considering some of the dross in there with him
Report mach October 21, 2012 10:05 PM BST
thats baloney I'm talking about
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:05 PM BST
She wasn't polling quite as well. Only won 1 week
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:06 PM BST
But last 4 or 5 looks very possible for Baloney. Agree they may manage to shift him just before the final
Report mach October 21, 2012 10:07 PM BST
the best money will be made laying baloney for elimination each week
Report THEY know October 21, 2012 10:08 PM BST
Barlow on Xtra Factor: "Chris sang something from the 80s and he's not even near the bottom two"
Report Cider October 21, 2012 10:08 PM BST
One can tell that Baloney is wise to what is happening. Gary gave an indication he will be trying to stick to 'traditional' songs. Could be quite a battle
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:09 PM BST
George

I think you're worrying for no reason there.  Ella bottom 2?
Report bearcub October 21, 2012 10:10 PM BST
she got 22% week 1 and 18% week 2
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:11 PM BST
You've made that up bear
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:11 PM BST
Soz, ignore me, thought you were on about Ella
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Baloney has 35% week 1 and 25% week 2 so far....
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:12 PM BST
15% this week
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:13 PM BST
I reckon he will settle down at 20% and last a good few more weeks
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:13 PM BST
maybe. surely can't win tho
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
they won't let him
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
Can't believe this is even being said. 20% Maloney? Really?
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
No chance in a final, no
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
But will still get his 20% in the final Grin
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
1 in every 5 calls to X Factor, given the audience, is for Christopher Maloney...
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
yep Dan, I believe
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:14 PM BST
will get him in a double before the final i reckon
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:15 PM BST
put him on while strictly is on
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:15 PM BST
Ooof. His fans will switch over and vote more Wink
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:16 PM BST
maybe that was planned this week, but thought they'd give it a couple of weeks
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:16 PM BST
George I still think everyone's overeacting to this 'Daily Star' thing.  It just seems all or nothing to me.  If it's true then yes why isn't Ella doing so well with the votes.  Now I know they have a good record fair enough but this time if they've just made it up or been misinformed somehow then you'll probably find Ella is topping the votes and Baloney is in trouble soon.
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:16 PM BST
Doing better than Joe Lou
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 10:16 PM BST
God help us. I'll wait to see if it's true, if it is, next year I will follow the Star to the letter. I just can't believe it. He reminds me of that Daniel-dead-wife dude a few years back.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:17 PM BST
Been said a few times Lou.  'Rachel cannot possibly have topped that vote'.....'surely not Eggy'  etc etc
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:17 PM BST
For the 10th time. She doesn't have a sob story. Just comes on and sings well. That's the profile of a winner
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:18 PM BST
People will still not believe the Star stories next year either, after we see Maloney's wins
Report five leaves left October 21, 2012 10:18 PM BST
Only Jeremy Kyle fans and teen girls vote early on
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:18 PM BST
George

Yes fair enough I understand but still am very cagey about it.  I think Ella's doing fine and Baloney will be out soon.  We'll see.
Report Danzaa October 21, 2012 10:19 PM BST
God help me now...I agree with Lou.
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:19 PM BST
You'll know if his vote has finally dropped off if YNWL comes out Laugh
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:20 PM BST
With a 96 piece choir
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:20 PM BST
ha ha like it!
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:21 PM BST
You'll be voting for him
Report GeorgeBrush October 21, 2012 10:21 PM BST
YNWA that should be
Report hemsby October 21, 2012 10:22 PM BST
With Ella perceived by most to be a strong favourite to win the show,there possibly isn't much incentive to pick up the phone and vote at this stage,different perhaps to clicking a mouse on an online poll where she has comfortable leads.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:25 PM BST
hemsby

I agree yes although just a touch whenever I look at the polls the pack are closing a little.
Report hemsby October 21, 2012 10:30 PM BST
I don't think she's a certainty like some on here Lou,although she's by far the most likely IMO.Is 1.86 the right price? To be perfectly honest I don't think it's far off....not a backing or laying price for me.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 21, 2012 10:34 PM BST
hems

Too short for me and always has been that's why I haven't actually backed her.
Report Helmuthian Folds October 21, 2012 10:36 PM BST
many thanks for the earlier live updates...

Much appreciated ExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited
Report hemsby October 21, 2012 10:37 PM BST
On behalf of the forum,no problem HF Happy
Report hemsby October 21, 2012 10:38 PM BST
Just a shame it wasn't better news for us Plain
Report Helmuthian Folds October 21, 2012 10:41 PM BST
Can't win them all Hemsby, just gotta keep taking the value and it all comes right in the end!
Report hemsby October 21, 2012 10:44 PM BST
True mate...Keep backing over priced selections and everything works out in the long run...as you say,can't win them all.
Report Helmuthian Folds October 21, 2012 10:47 PM BST
Luckily I half accepted the Star leak and layed Baloney in both markets so still made money but only small.

Be interesting for next week again although I will still be in Vegas, hopefully I wont have streaming problems next week!
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