lol GB2. Good point.

maybe she just preferred him to the group TM.  Its possible......

why are you worried?

to be

C'mon its a 3 or at best a 4 horse race and they ain't one of them

You should be worried GB.

They clearly want a J & J final and Pip doesn't have the broad appeal of the previous WGWG's

At least I'm struggling to find it anyway

4k bigger red than the ballroom dancers so a bit of scope to lay the other no hopers

It will be interesting what they do with Sam. He has the potential to command a sizeable votee imo.

I'm seeing Pav as a false fav. The value is definitely with the dog. Of course Cowell can probably pick his winner when it is so close.

It's upto you GB.
You've read it much better than me. As has hammy.
I'd bring him onside if I had your book tho.

Yeah I agree, The loss of 900 is a blow I'd rather avoid. I still think Pip will win but he's no certainty I guess.

What's clear is that large reds and greens do not objectivity make...and i am as guilty of that as anyone.

I've laid Pip this week and I have an all red book.
Hopefully I'm not just digging a bigger hole.

If I was all green tho, I'd be moving most of it to the 2 J's. So the rationale of doing the same when all red seems sound.

Not particularly wanted by the prods so very unlikely for the win but with a decent song choice could hoover up some vote. He does the personal interaction thing which female voters appear to dig.

Regardless of the dog routine in the final, there is zero follow-on from them apart from the Royal Variety....they perform for about 2 minutes and that's it...they can't have their own tour, they can't do birthdays/weddings etc... so no money to be made from them whatsoever for SC.....I seem them being act 5 or 6 in the final and finishing 2nd or 3rd...whereas Jonathan & Charlotte I think will be in slot number 8 or 9 of the 11 and be followed by no-hopers, which is the equivalent of going last.

Wrong Hove. Cowell can make a fortune out of that dog.

and who's pip?

It's a tv show first and foremost. Winning has very little effect on aftersales. Ashleigh would be a very good ambassador for the brand.

I think he would have been on pip from the off.  Reality has cost him it seems

Simon wants dog and will pimp them, but the public will most likely vote Jonathan - more emotional connection. A lot depends on dog's act, going to be something with judges, but they won't have practiced with judges, they'll have practiced with family member stand ins - people the dog is familiar with. Still we'll have to see how it goes on the night.