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By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 09:57
Because he's not naive makes his vitriol worse imo
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:02
He isn't showing any 'vitriol' though - at least not any that his supporters see (which I obviously agree with). All about perceptions I guess, but his merry mob count most from a betting perspective here. I guess you could include some of his rex-like coolness and a little sarcasm as vitriol. But it's barely registering on the negative scale in comparison to making him a more interesting character, who isn't afraid to mix it up.

In comparison Rex spent about 8 weeks attacking people very sarcastically including the winner of the series (Rachel), and still polled high. He probably would have beaten his 'victim' if his fiance hadn't appeared.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:04
That was the biggest '****-block' attack on a HM in BB history too! Laugh
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:04
Apologies mr swear filter - c0kk
By:
squares
When: 19 Sep 11 10:12
He is so nothing like Rex.  Rex had a personality (whether you liked it or loathed it).  Rex didn't give a sh!t about toadying up to other people and pleasing everyone.  Rex was charismatic.  Rex was totally confident in himself and comfortable in his own skin.

Aaron brings to my mind a namby pamby mummy's boy.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:15
..and lots of mothering types on DS like that about him.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:15
I see a similarity in the fact they are both not afraid to speak their minds or ruffle feathers - I did say before I don't think Aaron is as extreme a personality as the other examples in this type anyway, which I think makes him an even better proposition (less likely to create a hugely negative attack on him).
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:16
Whichever way, Aaron is putting even Rex's early poll figures in the shade.
By:
squares
When: 19 Sep 11 10:18
I think he is afraid to speak his mind.  I think he is just saying what he thinks people want to hear.  I don't think he'd step up to the mark in a major right or wrong situation in the house.  I think he'd be too worried about upsetting the HMs, the viewers, the prods, etc.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:19
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2r0WqDAKXQ&feature=relmfu

Pathetic. He tells Faye he fancies her for an easy life.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 19 Sep 11 10:19
Interesting the Aaron win thread has been largely overtaken by those desperate to oppose him. I think it was a great call by TK given his current price.
I think he's one of the most interesting people in there, and among the most honest. I don't think he's remotely unpleasant, and has a very dry sense of humour.
JJ was an appalling individual completely up his own ar*e and so full of sh*t, he made a Glasto toilet on the final day appear spotlessly clean.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:22
No one disagrees that it was a great shout by Kitten.
Just whether he's a back @ 5.2 or 6.2 as he is now.

I believe his popularity has peaked and it's all downhill from here as others start to show some life and receve HL's time.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:23
Yes, I don't see the JJ comparison at all - it's like comparing Ben with JJ! Aaron is far more like Ben.
By:
squares
When: 19 Sep 11 10:26
I got on at 22.  I'm not desperate to oppose him.  I liked him very early on but saw through him pretty quickly.  I just don't think he deserves to be put on such a pedestal by some.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:26
I don't think he's remotely unpleasant, and has a very dry sense of humour.

JR - there are some that are arguing that this equates to being extremely nasty (??) (rather than seeing it as making him an interesting character in there) obviously as I say, I don't see it that way and neither do the masses of people liking him.
By:
squares
When: 19 Sep 11 10:27
Aaron is not like Ben.  Ben wasn't off a yard.  Aaron is trying for his life.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:28
Whoever you believe he's like, every comparison is with someone who didn't come close to winning.

Alex is like Sophie. Jay is like Ant. Mark has elements of Brian and Pete.
Faye is like that DJ, before I watched, so I hear.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:29
I said he's more like Ben than JJ (IMO) - personally I don't think he's a match for either, he's Aaron (heart) (heart) Grin
By:
johnnyrant
When: 19 Sep 11 10:32
I know stu. You did well to get the 22. I do think, like fll says, his price has bottomed out now, so time to lay imho.
He probably is the sort of chap who, with some manipulative editing, could be sunk because he's not afraid to express an opinion. And with this potential Faye and Louise situation developing, he needs to tread carefully.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:33
If we dissected, as with Aaron, why all those differ we'd be here forever (even more so)!

I guess ultimately making these sort of comparison's in pretty fruitless - each case is individual. But a bigger difference is that all the previous shows got rid of these big characters via negative votes - that cant happen with this case (except via tactical voting for which we have never seen any real evidence). Voters in positive votes simply vote for who they like.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:34
JR - personally I didn't back him on here - his spread betting price is much better IMO.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:35
DJ?  Is that Kate? 

She was the most surprising winner for me, rather cold and boring I thought. Stupidly drunk all the time.  Faye a lot more sympathetic for me

Run off that BB now with the small audience and I'm certain Alex or Jade would win it
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:36
Of course a good natured geordie boy placed in that one too - although again he really irritated me
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:36
I don't believe that's the case at all.
Anymore than in votes to evict tactical voting doesn't play it's part.

Rachel's positive vote saved her over Stu for starters.

If Aaron becomes unpopular then he'll go in a head to head vote to save against any reasonly well liked HM.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:39
We've seen a lot more clear cases of negative votes working way differently to positive though - Orla v Science for example, a simple head to head - in a vote to save there is no way he would have lost, it really makes that much difference and that was a very simple H2H.

Anyway, bottom line is that he does not have a huge negative vote anyway! Of course, he could gain one - but they all could!
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:44
I would have voted even more for Ola in a vote to save than I did to evict science.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:45
Science another one much loved by the forums, but a total tw@t who could never win.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:47
Given Tashie going I think the audience have already worked out the tactical implication of the vote to save

Could be that it's no different anyway in a H2H

Would the Marcus vs Freddie, and Sivvy vs Marcus results been any different?

I doubt it
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:47
He beat Max in a vote to evict - he had a fair old support. There simply wasn't the same 'hatred' for Orla, which is what vote to evict entails. Vote to save is a different beast entirely, I'm positive (pardon the pun) of that.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:48
I doubt it too.
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 10:49
Those are interesting test cases GB - all of those had fairly big support bases. But fundamentally I'd say yes to your question.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:49
Max had acted like a koont all week. It's surprising that Science only just beat him.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:49
Tash would have stayed if people were only voting for their favs imho
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:51
Just as Bex would go in a landslide against Heaven
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:52
With out a doubt it was Sivvy fans voting for Freddie (many of whom liked him too) which helped get rid of Freddie.
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:53
Marcus fans even*

He was at the height of his popularity at that time.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:57
Not this again Laugh

I reckon Freddie becoming a tw@t didn't help either [;)]
By:
five leaves left
When: 19 Sep 11 10:58
That too.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Sep 11 10:59
Anyway, I see a war between Anton and Aaron after Heaven and Bex have gone

Aaron will probably win, but it will likely damage him
By:
stu
When: 19 Sep 11 11:00
Obviously, by definition it's impossible to prove the difference between positive and negative voting, but I'm certain it's there - I hate to go all psychobabble, but I do know of psychological research which shows that in making evaluations the way in which the question is framed (e.g. positive or negative) does make clear differences to both the way people think and people's responses/choices.
But in any case most of the examples are with people who had extremely high negative ratings as well, which like I said isn't the case here.
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